Pharmacy Career Coach Reviews???

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Job market keeps getting tougher people. Just curious has anyone out there gave pharmacy career coach a try and had good experience/result? They posted a few success story videos on youtube with comments disabled. They claim to help "thousands of pharmacist stand out," yet not much reviews to back that up. Just a couple red flags based off of my limited research on them so far...especially with the hefty price tag. Just making sure before I get my money scammed

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Sounds like an unemployed pharmacist trying to make a quick buck.
Steer clear.
Everything you need to know, you can find out yourself. There is no magic bullet. You have to hustle like crazy. Network, sell yourself, relocate to BFE etc. That's the reality. A pharmacy career coach will not save you.
 
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I'll help for free, you should read and start thinking about actions you can take. It's a competitive market and getting brutal as we tick off to a recession. Basically, figure out your weaknesses (do you interview poorly, do you just not get noticed, do you not have opportunities) and work on them (practice in a mirror, have you fixed your resume/CV, have you considered moving to a place with more opportunities). Not to bring out desperation, but you need a job more than the company needs you right now.

I can also say that I have helped thousands, but I know I have helped at least 100, but the advice is no secret and to a large extent, does not need personal adjustment (there is more of that at the PhD level, but that's because it's a niche hiring and candidate market). You need to invest in yourself. Consider a coach only if you're trying for a niche, but for a general job, you can pick up the hints yourself and run with it.

Start with How To Stress Less and Leap. They are both good for the current market.
 
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I am all for investing in personal/professional development, and it sounds like you're asking about return on investment. ROI is different for everyone, so ask yourself:

What exactly are you hoping to get out of it?

Just a job?

Or, specific skills?

Or, experiences that will shape how you approach job hunting?

Also, where are you looking to work?

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I don't think you need a pharmacy-specific coach but whether you need any coach at all depends on how introspective you are about your strengths and weaknesses. Or on your ability to ask people you know to give you frank feedback. Due to the Dunning–Kruger effect, the second may be more helpful than the first part of this advice. Hence back to a coach - like a therapist, they should give you honest and neutral advice.
 
I “coached“ a friend that only had one year of retail experience and then didn’t work for a year... this friend couldn’t land any job after that one year gap. She came to me for advice after trying and failing multiple times on her own. I was able to help her secure 2 hospital jobs after our coaching session. It’s all about how you can sell yourself. So if your interviewing skills are horrible, then it might be good to get someone to help you out.

I know for me personally, I may need some help if I ever want to break into industry one day. But for all other pharmacy jobs, I’m pretty confident in my interviewing ability.
 
What does it mean to “break into industry”?
 
I think pharmacist prison consultant is the next big thing. Let's be honest. If a pharmacist gets charged with a crime and receives a prison sentence they will need help to survive prison. Pharm grads take note. This could be the next big thing.
 
What does it mean to “break into industry”?
You find an industry, any kind, and then scale the walls Spiderman style until you get to the access panel on the roof. Then you rappel down inside the building and there you are.

Or it means getting a job in the pharmaceutical industry. I'm not sure. Once you get in, it's pretty constant recruitment though.
 
You find an industry, any kind, and then scale the walls Spiderman style until you get to the access panel on the roof. Then you rappel down inside the building and there you are.

Or it means getting a job in the pharmaceutical industry. I'm not sure. Once you get in, it's pretty constant recruitment though.

Your definition is too narrow. You can also use a grappling hook, Batman-style. Better for rappelling as well.
 
Oh and for the OP - this is an obvious money-making "scam". I bet your alma mater has better resources for interview coaching/resume building/career planing than whoever is selling this "service". Honestly anyone who pays for this service gets what they deserve. *puke*
 
Your definition is too narrow. You can also use a grappling hook, Batman-style. Better for rappelling as well.

Why can’t I just get an inside man to open the door for me during the middle of the night?
 
Your definition is too narrow. You can also use a grappling hook, Batman-style. Better for rappelling as well.
True. My kid is really into Spiderman right now so that was on my mind.
Why can’t I just get an inside man to open the door for me during the middle of the night?
That requires networking and you know how pharmacy people feel about networking.
 
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I will tell you about my experience with PharmacyCareer Coach as a verified purchaser. I was part of their breakthrough coaching program back in March when they first started it for $397. This was a 4 weeks coaching program. First of all, the 30 minutes coaching calls and their online content provided little to no additional value compared to what I already found out from free sources out there! The worst part was when I requested my resume/CV to be audited as part of the process, it took Mike Rush 16 day ays to get back to me with a light resume/CV audit, and he was only looking for spelling errors/formatting (no content edit). How long do you think it would take you to do the same? To top that off, he later missed multiple dates promising he will finish "optimizing" my linkedin page.

Frustrated, I finally looked into their refund policy. You get 1 month to get your refund, but their coaching program also last 1 month. This should be enough to tell you that these are scammers! They will upload a poorly made coaching video once a week and once the last video is posted, your time is up.

Don't fall for these so call "experts" who take advantage of these tough times to scam desperate people. Mike Rush will try to con you into thinking that you will get a major discount in addition to a bunch of other "bonus" offers which he considered as a "steal." lol

All the information you need are available online for FREE. You don't need pre-made cover letter templates, resumes, or cheat sheets. It is exactly as Rybko90 said, there's no magic bullet, you're just gonna have to find what you like, do your research and hussle. Based off of my experience Mike Rush is a proven scammer. I fell for it and hopefully other desperate souls out there won't fall for it either.
 
I wouldn't spend money on that kind of thing personally.

Kind of reminds me of parents who spend money on a coach to get their kids into college. It really isn't necessary to have a college admissions coach either, yet people spend money on them and think they're swell.
 
I will tell you about my experience with PharmacyCareer Coach as a verified purchaser. I was part of their breakthrough coaching program back in March when they first started it for $397. This was a 4 weeks coaching program. First of all, the 30 minutes coaching calls and their online content provided little to no additional value compared to what I already found out from free sources out there! The worst part was when I requested my resume/CV to be audited as part of the process, it took Mike Rush 16 day ays to get back to me with a light resume/CV audit, and he was only looking for spelling errors/formatting (no content edit). How long do you think it would take you to do the same? To top that off, he later missed multiple dates promising he will finish "optimizing" my linkedin page.

Frustrated, I finally looked into their refund policy. You get 1 month to get your refund, but their coaching program also last 1 month. This should be enough to tell you that these are scammers! They will upload a poorly made coaching video once a week and once the last video is posted, your time is up.

Don't fall for these so call "experts" who take advantage of these tough times to scam desperate people. Mike Rush will try to con you into thinking that you will get a major discount in addition to a bunch of other "bonus" offers which he considered as a "steal." lol

All the information you need are available online for FREE. You don't need pre-made cover letter templates, resumes, or cheat sheets. It is exactly as Rybko90 said, there's no magic bullet, you're just gonna have to find what you like, do your research and hussle. Based off of my experience Mike Rush is a proven scammer. I fell for it and hopefully other desperate souls out there won't fall for it either.
This client enrolled in one of our self-service programs yet wanted all of the services done for him. He was part of a very entry-level program that required him to do the work, yet he didn't do any of it and put it on our team to do it for him. He wasn't a good fit from the start and we shouldn't have worked with him at all.

My career has been dedicated to helping thousands of pharmacists get hired and find incredible pharmacy careers. Here are several of the success stories from great clients that we've had the privilege to work with. https://www.pharmacycareercoach.com/success-stories. Please take a moment to watch all of these great clients (many of which I personally interviewed), and it will help put this person's negative review in perspective quickly.
 
This client enrolled in one of our self-service programs yet wanted all of the services done for him. He was part of a very entry-level program that required him to do the work, yet he didn't do any of it and put it on our team to do it for him. He wasn't a good fit from the start and we shouldn't have worked with him at all.

My career has been dedicated to helping thousands of pharmacists get hired and find incredible pharmacy careers. Here are several of the success stories from great clients that we've had the privilege to work with. https://www.pharmacycareercoach.com/success-stories. Please take a moment to watch all of these great clients (many of which I personally interviewed), and it will help put this person's negative review in perspective quickly.
holy necrothread from the original scammer- eh I mean "job coach" Come one -in the days of the internet, there is just no needs for these services unless your school absolutely failed you.

Gotta love he that he created an account 3 years ago, and just now makes his first post in response to someone calling out his "business" three years ago.

But I commend you for making a buck off the system that created the mess we are currently in. Capitalism at its finest.
 
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This client enrolled in one of our self-service programs yet wanted all of the services done for him. He was part of a very entry-level program that required him to do the work, yet he didn't do any of it and put it on our team to do it for him. He wasn't a good fit from the start and we shouldn't have worked with him at all.

My career has been dedicated to helping thousands of pharmacists get hired and find incredible pharmacy careers. Here are several of the success stories from great clients that we've had the privilege to work with. https://www.pharmacycareercoach.com/success-stories. Please take a moment to watch all of these great clients (many of which I personally interviewed), and it will help put this person's negative review in perspective quickly.
Also what is funny, is that I don't see anything on this website that actually lists who you are and what your qualifications are?
 
This client enrolled in one of our self-service programs yet wanted all of the services done for him. He was part of a very entry-level program that required him to do the work, yet he didn't do any of it and put it on our team to do it for him. He wasn't a good fit from the start and we shouldn't have worked with him at all.

My career has been dedicated to helping thousands of pharmacists get hired and find incredible pharmacy careers. Here are several of the success stories from great clients that we've had the privilege to work with. https://www.pharmacycareercoach.com/success-stories. Please take a moment to watch all of these great clients (many of which I personally interviewed), and it will help put this person's negative review in perspective quickly.

Lmao - I know some “life coaches” personally. They seem to always come from easy money of some sort like an insurance settlement and/or a huge inheritance of some kind.

Then they spend the rest of their life acting like they work full time jobs when in all reality they just live off of easy money and pretend they have professional jobs.

Never met a “life coach” that I respected in a professional way. They qualify for my “goof ball list” that can come to me for professional advice when they go broke from shopping at Trader Joe’s every day.
 
I wish there were pharmacist career development CEUs or more of them.
 
I think we should take bets if @Mtrush will actually respond to us?

I’ll bet 50 USD that he will not and I will give a 10 day window. He has reruns of Glee to watch while thinking about ways to tell others to live their lives…

Double or nothing for 10 day increments after that up to 40 days.. Either side can accept/decline the double or nothing every 10 days with a max of 4 increments. If one side declines the looser must pay.

Potential for 400 bucks. Any takers? Loser pays VIA Venmo - or if you wish to remain anonymous, send via snail mail with no return address.

Bet good for 12 hours. I will accept up to 2 bets. 😂🤣
 
I’ll bet 50 USD that he will not and I will give a 10 day window. He has reruns of Glee to watch while thinking about ways to tell others to live their lives…

Double or nothing for 10 day increments after that up to 40 days.. Either side can accept/decline the double or nothing every 10 days with a max of 4 increments. If one side declines the looser must pay.

Potential for 400 bucks. Any takers? Loser pays VIA Venmo - or if you wish to remain anonymous, send via snail mail with no return address.

Bet good for 12 hours. I will accept up to 2 bets. 😂🤣
Spoken like a true bookie
 
Never met a “life coach” that I respected in a professional way. They qualify for my “goof ball list” that can come to me for professional advice when they go broke from shopping at Trader Joe’s every day.

Trader Joe's is for amateurs in my area. The real professionals spend their (or their well-paid spouses') paychecks on Whole Foods.
 
Trader Joe's is for amateurs in my area. The real professionals spend their (or their well-paid spouses') paychecks on Whole Foods.


Yea - you got me there. For whatever reason Trader Joe’s just came to mind first.
 
"My career has been dedicated to helping thousands of pharmacists get hired and find incredible pharmacy careers"

If that isn't a textbook example of an oxymoron, I don't know what is......
 
I’ll bet 50 USD that he will not and I will give a 10 day window. He has reruns of Glee to watch while thinking about ways to tell others to live their lives…

Double or nothing for 10 day increments after that up to 40 days.. Either side can accept/decline the double or nothing every 10 days with a max of 4 increments. If one side declines the looser must pay.

Potential for 400 bucks. Any takers? Loser pays VIA Venmo - or if you wish to remain anonymous, send via snail mail with no return address.

Bet good for 12 hours. I will accept up to 2 bets. 😂🤣
10 days out and no response
 
10 days out and no response

Yes - I would have won. I had no takers. I would be willing to double down all the way up to 40 days.

Guys like this say what they want to say and think they are too important to hear anything else.
 
Yes - I would have won. I had no takers. I would be willing to double down all the way up to 40 days.

Guys like this say what they want to say and think they are too important to hear anything else.
I actually pm'd even to see if I could stack the deck - hasn't logged in since making this post.

Maybe we are the fools, he is the one duping people into paying him for some BS advice. Probably living down on some tropical island somewhere laughing at all of us.
 
For what it's worth, I have a pretty good track record as a career coach - specifically in the area of breaking into the pharma industry. Out of all the people who have asked me for help, I estimate that 90% have ended up getting a foot in the door and some that I've helped many years ago have surpassed me. A few caveats:

- There are those who mention a passing interest in breaking into the industry but don't seem too committed or motivated when it comes to actually making a genuine effort. I am not counting them
- My estimate is 90%, but I think it's more like 100% when counting those who are transitioned to an "interim" step - a role that makes them a legitimate contender to transition into industry within the next 3 years if they so choose
- My estimate is only for those I've helped who I know in person. I've had several ask me for some advice over SDN or Reddit, and I've tried to give some tips - but I don't really have a gauge on what the success rate is for those folks. It's hard to tell because some people don't follow through, and many succeed but my advice is likely just 1 of many they're gathering from many people (as should be). I'm probably more invested in the effort to help you if I know you. That said, I think most pharmacists who want to enter the industry CAN if they make a genuine effort, and I hate to see my fellow pharmacists sell themselves short on their dreams. We are scientists by nature and have successfully completed the gauntlet of pharm school and boards. Unless social awareness and interpersonal communication skills are lacking, there's no reason that business acumen can't be picked up.

I've thought of going into this career coaching thing for profit but in the end, I haven't made the effort to think of a monetizing scheme. I just like coaching/teaching/mentoring. Helping out fellow pharmacists who want to break into the industry is rewarding in itself, cliche as that sounds. But who wouldn't like to make a buck doing what they like (and that they're good at)?
 
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For what it's worth, I have a pretty good track record as a career coach - specifically in the area of breaking into the pharma industry. Out of all the people who have asked me for help, I estimate that 90% have ended up getting a foot in the door and some that I've helped many years ago have surpassed me. A few caveats:

- There are those who mention a passing interest in breaking into the industry but don't seem too committed or motivated when it comes to actually making a genuine effort. I am not counting them
- My estimate is 90%, but I think it's more like 100% when counting those who are transitioned to an "interim" step - a role that makes them a legitimate contender to transition into industry within the next 3 years if they so choose
- My estimate is only for those I've helped who I know in person. I've had several ask me for some advice over SDN or Reddit, and I've tried to give some tips - but I don't really have a gauge on what the success rate is for those folks. It's hard to tell because some people don't follow through, and many succeed but my advice is likely just 1 of many they're gathering from many people (as should be). I'm probably more invested in the effort to help you if I know you. That said, I think most pharmacists who want to enter the industry CAN if they make a genuine effort, and I hate to see my fellow pharmacists sell themselves short on their dreams. We are scientists by nature and have successfully completed the gauntlet of pharm school and boards. Unless social awareness and interpersonal communication skills are lacking, there's no reason that business acumen can't be picked up.

I've thought of going into this career coaching thing for profit but in the end, I haven't made the effort to think of a monetizing scheme. I just like coaching/teaching/mentoring. Helping out fellow pharmacists who want to break into the industry is rewarding in itself, cliche as that sounds. But who wouldn't like to make a buck doing what they like (and that they're good at)?
Is this you?

 
Is this you?

No thats not me. ADP's guide is good so I would recommend anyone interested in breaking into the industry to give it a read. Also, its worth mentioning that he made the commendable effort to develop a comprehensive guide without monetizing its availability. Its there for anyone to read.

In the same subreddit, another individual went through the effort to make a good presentation on pharma compensation based on a survey he created and put out there for members. Its also worth reading.
 
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