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Physician Salaries (1998 model)

Discussion in 'Medical Students - MD' started by neutropeniaboy, Feb 28, 2002.

  1. neutropeniaboy

    neutropeniaboy Blasted ENT Attending 10+ Year Member

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    Picked this up today: Wassenaar JD, Thrar SL: Physician Socioeconomic Statistics, 200-2002 Edition. American Medical Association, 2001.

    Format is <specialty>/<mean salary>/<median salary>

    All physicians $194,400/$160,000
    FP $144,500/130,000
    IM $182,100/150,000
    --General IM $157,900/140,000
    --Cardiovascular IM $294,600/$230,000
    Surgery $268,200/$240,000
    --General Surgery 246,800/215,000
    --orthopedics 312,500/280,000
    --ophthalmology 208,000/180,000
    Pediatrics 139,600/126,000
    OBGYN 214,400/200,000
    Radiology 258,800/230,000
    Psychiatry 139,000/130,000
    Anesthesiology 230,200/210,000
    Pathology 207,900/184,000
    Emergency 193,800/184,000
     
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  3. neutropeniaboy

    neutropeniaboy Blasted ENT Attending 10+ Year Member

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    Alternately, check out this website:

    <a href="http://medicine.wustl.edu/~residenc/outside/spec/byspec.html" target="_blank">http://medicine.wustl.edu/~residenc/outside/spec/byspec.html</a>
     
  4. eagle26

    eagle26 Senior Member 7+ Year Member

    OR:

    <a href="http://www.physicianssearch.com/physician/salary2.html" target="_blank">http://www.physicianssearch.com/physician/salary2.html</a>
     
  5. <a href="http://www.cejka.com/content.asp?intPageID=264&intBrowserRes=1024" target="_blank">http://www.cejka.com/content.asp?intPageID=264&intBrowserRes=1024</a>
     
  6. chef

    chef Senior Member 10+ Year Member

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    please forgive my ignorance, but are these figures salaries one would receive from a hospital/healthcare system, or from private practice, or the two combined?
     
  7. gatormed

    gatormed Member 7+ Year Member

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    The numbers on the web sites seem a little high.
     
  8. vyc

    vyc Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    what are categorical positions?
     
  9. Freeeedom!

    Freeeedom! Senior Member 10+ Year Member

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    Actually some of those numbers seem low...It is all about how you run your business or how many hours you work. And, of course, it what region of the country you work.
     
  10. bigfkd22

    bigfkd22 Member 10+ Year Member

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    Actually check out this data the other reports seem low.

    <a href="http://www.uoworks.com/pdfs/charts/salary2000.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.uoworks.com/pdfs/charts/salary2000.pdf</a>

    These numbers seem are more detail orienited.
     
  11. Whisker Barrel Cortex

    Whisker Barrel Cortex 1K Member 10+ Year Member

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    Did you guys see the orhto spine salary in the south: Average 712K! My first thought when I saw this was "holy mother of crap!"
     
  12. jephyboy

    jephyboy Senior Member 10+ Year Member

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    Is it me or is 700+K a year a lot of money?
     
  13. johnM

    johnM Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    I'm not sure that I even believe that! 712K can't be an average salary, can it?! <img border="0" alt="[Wowie]" title="" src="graemlins/wowie.gif" />

    It looks like a reliable publication, it's got a professional looking pdf file an all, but that is just so much money! And why is it that docs in the south seem to be making more money?
     
  14. bigfkd22

    bigfkd22 Member 10+ Year Member

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    Medical Group Management Association is the name of the organization that put this survey together there website is.

    <a href="http://www.mgma.com/" target="_blank">http://www.mgma.com/</a>

    They look to be some kind of kind of physician executive management group. I can only hope those numbers are some what close. It will help to pay off the 100k in loans.

    It looks legit but i have no idea???
     
  15. grayfish

    grayfish Junior Member 7+ Year Member

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    Actually I heard not that long ago of someone who got offered over a million a year to join an established ortho group (yes it is in south and yes he took the job). <img border="0" alt="[Clappy]" title="" src="graemlins/clappy.gif" /> So the salary survey actually sounded reasonable to me. I guess that is why it is one of the most competitive residency to get into. :D
     
  16. neutropeniaboy

    neutropeniaboy Blasted ENT Attending 10+ Year Member

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by johnM:
    <strong>I'm not sure that I even believe that! 712K can't be an average salary, can it?! <img border="0" alt="[Wowie]" title="" src="graemlins/wowie.gif" />
    </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think you should go back and scrutinize the form again. Two things strike me: only 26 respondants in orthopedic spine surgery in the south and MEDIAN, not mean, salary.

    I find it hard to believe that in that region the number 26 comes close to representing how many physicians there are in the south performing orthopedic spine surgery.

    Furthermore, of the 26 people who responded, 712k represents the median, not mean, salary. The median is simply the middle number, and we have no idea of what the data set contains. Additionally, what's the data skew? Left? Right?

    I think they're bogus statistics, and whoever created the chart obviously chose to advertise median salary versus mean salary for a reason.

    Again, check out the stats for the west in orthopedic spine surgery. Two more respondants, yet half of the median salary. That doesn't make sense. We have no way of knowing the relative competitiveness of West v. South, total number of practicing physicians, mean salary, or hours worked. Moreover, maybe these are just people placed by this organization.

    I wouldn't trust this chart anymore than I could throw the people who created it.
     
  17. Vasiley Zaitsev

    Vasiley Zaitsev Senior Member 10+ Year Member

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    FYI..

    the South has the ABSOLUTE highest salaries in teh country..furthermore, the gulf coast has the highest in the south. I know a neurosurgeon that makes 3-5 million a year (yes!) and a general who makes over 1 million...not tomention ENT's, Urologists, Ortho's, and Cardiothoracics who make a good 600k+, with some topping over 1 million..I also know a rad oncologist that makes 700k..works 40 hours a week...the south rules!

    owcc16
     

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