Pistol or Rifle Qualification at ODS (OIS) for Navy doctors?

[DredPiratRobrts]

Im a Navy HPSPer and will probably be heading out to ODS (formerly OIS) probably in May. I'm also an avid shooter. For those who have gone through ODS recently (last few years) did you have the chance to qualify on pistol and/or rifle while there? If so was it the ribbon qualification? Which weapons did you use?

Thanks!

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[orbitsurgMD]

Im a Navy HPSPer and will probably be heading out to ODS (formerly OIS) probably in May. I'm also an avid shooter. For those who have gone through ODS recently (last few years) did you have the chance to qualify on pistol and/or rifle while there? If so was it the ribbon qualification? Which weapons did you use?

Thanks!

You stand a better chance of getting qualified at flight surgery school. When I was there, they took us to a range one morning and let us try to qualify with some old .38 cal. S&W revolvers. No Berettas. One or two guys got a ribbon for shooting straight. No training, though.

No rifle at all. If you want that, you will probably have to try if you go to Marines as a GMO.

 

[drchick331]

I don't know about ODS/OIS, but if you rotate at Portsmouth, you can head up to Camp Allen Weapons Range for pistol and rifle quals (they offer it one day a week for $28 and $38 respectively)...or you can wait and shoot pistol at C4 during internship year.

 

[njaqua]

I don't know about ODS/OIS, but if you rotate at Portsmouth, you can head up to Camp Allen Weapons Range for pistol and rifle quals (they offer it one day a week for $28 and $38 respectively)...or you can wait and shoot pistol at C4 during internship year.

For Army OBC they gave us some instruction and let us qualify on the M16 and 9MM. I'd never fired a weapon prior to that but I did qualify. It was actually pretty fun.

 

[BOHICA-FIGMO]

Im a Navy HPSPer and will probably be heading out to ODS (formerly OIS) probably in May. I'm also an avid shooter. For those who have gone through ODS recently (last few years) did you have the chance to qualify on pistol and/or rifle while there? If so was it the ribbon qualification? Which weapons did you use?

Thanks!

Yep, you should have the chance to qualify on the standard Beretta M9, 9mm pistol. It is the standard course of fire for the ribbon qualification. They have an indoor range up at Newport that you will qualify on. The farthest you shoot is 25 yd from a kneeling /modified kneeling position. Also, the Navy likes to shoot from isosceles (sp?) rather than Weaver, FWIW.

 

[Petek]

I was there in the May 2007 class. The only gun I saw was strapped to the belt of a guard at the gate. OIS has to be the only place you can go to military training for 5 weeks and never touch a gun🙂


things are always changing at OIS so hopefully this has changed as well

 

[cyclegirl]

I was there in June of 06 and we had a class on how to shoot the 9mm and then we went to the range and qualified. However, due to budget cuts they are no longer doing it. I had some friends that went June of 07 and they were told that they are no longer doing the qualification testing at ODS. Sorry!

 

[MaximusD]

This is so stupid.

I was told a story by a high ranking officer of how a military doc defended himself and a few others only bc he was carrying an M16 and fired back on an assailant.

So ill-advised to train military without any firearms training.

 

[BOHICA-FIGMO]

I was there in June of 06 and we had a class on how to shoot the 9mm and then we went to the range and qualified. However, due to budget cuts they are no longer doing it. I had some friends that went June of 07 and they were told that they are no longer doing the qualification testing at ODS. Sorry!

I stand corrected! Doesn't make much sense, though. Relative to the damage control trainer and fire fighting trainer, 9mm quals. can't cost THAT much.

 

[Gastrapathy]

This is so stupid.

I was told a story by a high ranking officer of how a military doc defended himself and a few others only bc he was carrying an M16 and fired back on an assailant.

So ill-advised to train military without any firearms training.

Are you serious? I can think of nothing more ill-advised than thinking that a doctor shooting at a couple targets with a 9mm is somehow better prepared for the battlefield. Relax, you'll get plenty of training if you are somewhere you need it. Just don't leave your 9mm in a backpack on the beach. But thats a story for another day.

 

[Classic17]

Like an above poster said, if you are with a Marine unit, you are going to have ample opportunity. When we did our pistol and rifle qualification, the Navy doc's, officer and enlisted, were allowed to participate in all the training we did (including working with the .50 cal machine guns and our Martial Arts program). I am doing an HPSP in the Navy as well and, I agree, I think basic weapon proficiency is important.

 

[NavyFP]

Like an above poster said, if you are with a Marine unit, you are going to have ample opportunity. When we did our pistol and rifle qualification, the Navy doc's, officer and enlisted, were allowed to participate in all the training we did (including working with the .50 cal machine guns and our Martial Arts program). I am doing an HPSP in the Navy as well and, I agree, I think basic weapon proficiency is important.

Marine Corps Martial Arts.... can you say OWWWW.

 

[Gastrapathy]

Marine Corps Martial Arts.... can you say OWWWW.

"Hey Doc, I ran into a door again"

"Sure PFC, lets sew that up again"

 

[NavyFP]

Will they let me do that next year as a GMO?

Yes, and it will put you in good standing with the Marine hierarchy.

 

[MaximusD]

Are you serious? I can think of nothing more ill-advised than thinking that a doctor shooting at a couple targets with a 9mm is somehow better prepared for the battlefield. Relax, you'll get plenty of training if you are somewhere you need it. Just don't leave your 9mm in a backpack on the beach. But thats a story for another day.

I really would like to hear this!

 

[MaximusD]

LOL what a visual.

 

[NavyFP]

Will they let me wear the belt? Because I'm not doing it if I can't wear the belt.

They let me and even gave me a spiffy certificate.

 

[NavyFP]

That's gonna be f-ing awesome, and I'm so going to do that, even though I know it will hurt like hell.

How long is the course? No problems working that in with your other duties?

Tan belt is 12-20 hours
Grey belt was about 30.
Was considered part of my regular duties, but we were deployed at the time.

 

[NavyFP]

This is gonna hurt, but it's so gonna be worth it.

I actually treated a Marine once who had an open tib/fib after getting his leg swept during martial arts training. Ended up with an MEB. Sucked. Just gotta make sure that doesn't happen to me.

Don't let them do too much body hardening on you. (literally beat you with sticks) I still think it is a dumb idea.