Please help, need info on these schools with my stat!! low gpa/low mcat & super not traditional

[Se7enYears]

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Hello,

I have sGPA ~ 2.8 and cGPA ~ 3.2 1st MCAT = 484 2nd MCAT 492

Volunteering: 76 hours of hospital volunteer
54 hours of food bank

tons of extracurricular activities: i.e. collegiate sports, etc

Delaware resident, but I am trying to cut down to 10-12 schools. Please help!!

Schools:

A.T. Still - Arizona
Arizona Mid- Arizona
Lake Erie - Pennsylvania
Lake Erie - Florida
Lincoln - Tennessee
Nova Southern - Florida
A.T. Still - Missouri
Kansas city - Missouri
Oklahoma state - Oklahoma
Pacific Northwest - Washington
PCOM - Pennsylvania
PCOM - Georgia
Rowan - New Jersey
Touro - Nevada
U of Pikeville - Kentucky
U of Incarnate - Texas
West Virginia - West virginia
William carey - Mississippi

 

[Goro]

I can't sugar coat this: With stats like those, I can't recommend medical school.

Have you even gone to the school's websites to see what their floor is? For PCOM, it's 3.4!

You have too few hours of clinical and service ECs it seems

You are at high risk to fail out of your very first semester.

 

[Dr. Stalker]

Hello,

I have sGPA ~ 2.8 and cGPA ~ 3.2 1st MCAT = 484 2nd MCAT 492

Volunteering: 76 hours of hospital volunteer
54 hours of food bank

tons of extracurricular activities: i.e. collegiate sports, etc

Delaware resident, but I am trying to cut down to 10-12 schools. Please help!!

Schools:

A.T. Still - Arizona
Arizona Mid- Arizona
Lake Erie - Pennsylvania
Lake Erie - Florida
Lincoln - Tennessee
Nova Southern - Florida
A.T. Still - Missouri
Kansas city - Missouri
Oklahoma state - Oklahoma
Pacific Northwest - Washington
PCOM - Pennsylvania
PCOM - Georgia
Rowan - New Jersey
Touro - Nevada
U of Pikeville - Kentucky
U of Incarnate - Texas
West Virginia - West virginia
William carey - Mississippi

Homie - your stats won't get you in. Sorry, its rough to hear. Consider an SMP and a 3rd MCAT retake and aim to get a 505-510. If you do, you'll up your chances incredibly.

To quote the wise @Goro don't rush to apply all haphazardly this cycle, medical schools aren't going anywhere lol. Take 1 more year or 2 to fix it all up and apply and you'll be set to be a doctor!

 

[Se7enYears]

I can't sugar coat this: With stats like those, I can't recommend medical school.

Have you even gone to the school's websites to see what their floor is? For PCOM, it's 3.4!

You have too few hours of clinical and service ECs it seems

You are at high risk to fail out of your very first semester.

Thank you for your reply! I know that my gpa isn't high, but I wanted to give it a shot before I call it quits. I know its basically impossible with my scores, but I would appreciate it if you could still give me schools I may have slight chance? i don't know if this means anything but I have tons of baseball and extra curricular activities because I wasn't going to medicine till later in my school year.

 

[Se7enYears]

Homie - your stats won't get you in. Sorry, its rough to hear. Consider an SMP and a 3rd MCAT retake and aim to get a 505-510. If you do, you'll up your chances incredibly.

To quote the wise @Goro don't rush to apply all haphazardly this cycle, medical schools aren't going anywhere lol. Take 1 more year or 2 to fix it all up and apply and you'll be set to be a doctor!

Thank you for your reply! I was actually going to apply to masters programs, but because of family circumstances, I wasn't able to do it. So with my stats, I decided to give it a shot, but is there a disadvantage if I still apply with those scores other than not getting in?

 

[Dr. Stalker]

Thank you for your reply! I was actually going to apply to masters programs, but because of family circumstances, I wasn't able to do it. So with my stats, I decided to give it a shot, but is there a disadvantage if I still apply with those scores other than not getting in?

The only problematic issue is that you will likely be a reapplicant, and when you are, just be warned medical schools will openly compare your two applications. If you make phenomenal changes that shouldn't be an issue. But, if you don't, they won't see you as worthy!

 

[Ketterile]

Have you thought about Caribbean schools? There's a few that might take you, and some actually tend to be cheaper than most US med schools. In all honesty, I definitely wouldn't apply this cycle to any US med school. It's a VERY good chance it'll be a waste of time and money, not to be a letdown but yeah. It's kinda late in the cycle right now, and your stats aren't where they need to be. You can maybe try for DO, but just remember that applications are expensive. You don't wanna apply when you don't really have a shot, it's a waste of time and money IMO.

 

[Se7enYears]

Have you thought about Caribbean schools? There's a few that might take you, and some actually tend to be cheaper than most US med schools. In all honesty, I definitely wouldn't apply this cycle to any US med school. It's a VERY good chance it'll be a waste of time and money, not to be a letdown but yeah. It's kinda late in the cycle right now, and your stats aren't where they need to be. You can maybe try for DO, but just remember that applications are expensive. You don't wanna apply when you don't really have a shot, it's a waste of time and money IMO.

Thank you for the reply! Could you tell me DO schools from the list or some others that might be okay from out-of-state students?

 

[Se7enYears]

The only problematic issue is that you will likely be a reapplicant, and when you are, just be warned medical schools will openly compare your two applications. If you make phenomenal changes that shouldn't be an issue. But, if you don't, they won't see you as worthy!

Just as AACOMAS and AAMC applicant or to those specific schools?

 

[Dr. Stalker]

Just as AACOMAS and AAMC applicant or to those specific schools?

Every medical school DO OR MD does this.

 

[Dr. Stalker]

Just as AACOMAS and AAMC applicant or to those specific schools?

OP - this means re-writing PS, all your activities descriptions, brand new secondaries, and having a f*ckton of new accomplishments. Additionally, you better have some earthshattering ECs on your next AMCAS (new job, major accomplishments, updated grades from graduate school, higher MCAT score, etc.)

Are you in a rush/dire need to apply this cycle or is it your own will? It happens to the best of us, but sometimes being eager can be way more harmful than helpful.

 

[Se7enYears]

OP - this means re-writing PS, all your activities descriptions, brand new secondaries, and having a f*ckton of new accomplishments. Additionally, you better have some earthshattering ECs on your next AMCAS (new job, major accomplishments, updated grades from graduate school, higher MCAT score, etc.)

Are you in a rush/dire need to apply this cycle or is it your own will? It happens to the best of us, but sometimes being eager can be way more harmful than helpful.

Honestly, I use to pursue baseball until i got injured and my shot for pros ended. Then I was studying, but with all of the circumstances, my results are not that great right now. Only rush that I feel right now is that I won't get any support from my parents after this cycle. So I do feel little rushed to apply, if not then I probably will try again or find different path depend on my situation in the future.

 

[Dr. Stalker]

Honestly, I use to pursue baseball until i got injured and my shot for pros ended. Then I was studying, but with all of the circumstances, my results are not that great right now. Only rush that I feel right now is that I won't get any support from my parents after this cycle. So I do feel little rushed to apply, if not then I probably will try again or find different path depend on my situation in the future.

Not to be a harsh person but consider the following:
1. You want to apply and be a doctor - awesome
2. You have dangerously low numbers - to the point where osteopathic schools (usually way lower #s for admission) may not consider you
3. 1 to 2 years will completely eradicate all of the issues listed in point #2
4. The most important thing: If you don't want to pursue medicine 1 year from now, do you personally feel you're dedicated to the career for the long haul? Lets just say you want to do cardiology. 4 years medical school, 3 years IM residency, 3 years cards fellowship - 10 more years of training before you can be an attending (and at that, a junior attending = b*tch of the department) = are you dedicated for this in the long haul???

I understand your frustration, I'm super nontraditional - this is my 3rd cycle, but I've improved and changed vastly from my first cycle back in college, I'm a different person, but there's no chance in hell I'm giving up. People give me flack all the time for being 24 for applying with 2 failed cycles, but I'm not quitting - I'm that serious about medicine. Do I have a backup career in mind if this NEVER works? OF course, but I never created a setup where "if I try halfassed and don't get in i'll just do something else." <-- that isn't the mindset of a physician or a student trying to be one!

 

[Se7enYears]

Not to be a harsh person but consider the following:
1. You want to apply and be a doctor - awesome
2. You have dangerously low numbers - to the point where osteopathic schools (usually way lower #s for admission) may not consider you
3. 1 to 2 years will completely eradicate all of the issues listed in point #2
4. The most important thing: If you don't want to pursue medicine 1 year from now, do you personally feel you're dedicated to the career for the long haul? Lets just say you want to do cardiology. 4 years medical school, 3 years IM residency, 3 years cards fellowship - 10 more years of training before you can be an attending (and at that, a junior attending = b*tch of the department) = are you dedicated for this in the long haul???

I understand your frustration, I'm super nontraditional - this is my 3rd cycle, but I've improved and changed vastly from my first cycle back in college, I'm a different person, but there's no chance in hell I'm giving up. People give me flack all the time for being 24 for applying with 2 failed cycles, but I'm not quitting - I'm that serious about medicine. Do I have a backup career in mind if this NEVER works? OF course, but I never created a setup where "if I try halfassed and don't get in i'll just do something else." <-- that isn't the mindset of a physician or a student trying to be one!

haha thanks, I am also 25, I changed my major in my junior year from business to biochemistry. I don't worry about my dedication or motivation in the things that I do, it's just that with my scores right now I am not sure what can happen. When I said later on or change my career is because I grew up in an Asian household and I don't know what is going to happen after losing my parent's support if I don't get accepted. Either way, I was going to pay for any schooling with loans or military program. If this cycle does not work, then my backup plan is to apply for PhD program and join the military. Then at the end of my journey there, I would reapply to medicine, but who knows what is going to happen then.

what have you been doing since you graduated? you could also message me instead if this gets to private lol

 

[Goro]

Thank you for your reply! I was actually going to apply to masters programs, but because of family circumstances, I wasn't able to do it. So with my stats, I decided to give it a shot, but is there a disadvantage if I still apply with those scores other than not getting in?

As of right now, maybe:
ARCOM
ICOM (if they're taking apps)
NYIT-AR
UIW
RVU-UT
LECOM

 

[Se7enYears]

As of right now, maybe:
ARCOM
ICOM (if they're taking apps)
NYIT-AR
UIW
RVU-UT
LECOM

Do they give fair chances to out-of-state students? I am a DE resident

ARCOM - Arkansas
ICOM - idaho
NYIT-AR
UIW-incarnate
RVU- Rocky vista-utah

could you tell me why these schools in particular? I did have rocky vista in my list but i removed it.

 

[Goro]

Do they give fair chances to out-of-state students? I am a DE resident

ARCOM - Arkansas
ICOM - idaho
NYIT-AR
UIW-incarnate
RVU- Rocky vista-utah

could you tell me why these schools in particular? I did have rocky vista in my list but i removed it.

They're brand new schools, and as such they'll pretty much take any warm body to fill seats. They can't afford to be selective for regional candidates either.

 

[Se7enYears]

ah okay thank you so much for your help!

 

[SLU Student]

It is extremely risky for you to apply this cycle. If you must, you need to completely re-do your list of schools; there are too many schools on there with in-state biases and high cutoffs.

Go with Goro's list.

I also suggest:
ACOM
ARCOM
NYIT-Arkansas
UIWSOM
WCUCOM
RVUCOM-Utah
ICOM-Idaho (When they open)
LECOMs (all three campuses)

Be wary that even some of the new schools screen sub-3.0 GPAs. I think your MCAT is right on the border to be screened as well.

EDIT: These schools are new, and they are private, so there should be no regional biases and should treat all applicants equally.

 

[Se7enYears]

It is extremely risky for you to apply this cycle. If you must, you need to completely re-do your list of schools; there are too many schools on there with in-state biases and high cutoffs.

Go with Goro's list.

I also suggest:
ACOM
ARCOM
NYIT-Arkansas
UIWSOM
WCUCOM
RVUCOM-Utah
ICOM-Idaho (When they open)
LECOMs (all three campuses)

Be wary that even some of the new schools screen sub-3.0 GPAs. I think your MCAT is right on the border to be screened as well.

EDIT: These schools are new, and they are private, so there should be no regional biases and should treat all applicants equally.

Could you tell me which schools are regional biased on my list? It would help me a lot. Thank you!

 

[mcat_taker]

Hello,

I have sGPA ~ 2.8 and cGPA ~ 3.2 1st MCAT = 484 2nd MCAT 492

Volunteering: 76 hours of hospital volunteer
54 hours of food bank

tons of extracurricular activities: i.e. collegiate sports, etc

Delaware resident, but I am trying to cut down to 10-12 schools. Please help!!

Schools:

A.T. Still - Arizona
Arizona Mid- Arizona
Lake Erie - Pennsylvania
Lake Erie - Florida
Lincoln - Tennessee
Nova Southern - Florida
A.T. Still - Missouri
Kansas city - Missouri
Oklahoma state - Oklahoma
Pacific Northwest - Washington
PCOM - Pennsylvania
PCOM - Georgia
Rowan - New Jersey
Touro - Nevada
U of Pikeville - Kentucky
U of Incarnate - Texas
West Virginia - West virginia
William carey - Mississippi

That MCAT isn't doing you any favors. There should be no reason why you are scoring as low as a 492 on it with appropriate study. It's a big red flag as to whether you can manage a med school workload. Why don't you retake it? I seriously doubt any DO schools will accept a score that low.

 

[candbgirl]

That MCAT isn't doing you any favors. There should be no reason why you are scoring as low as a 492 on it with appropriate study. It's a big red flag as to whether you can manage a med school workload. Why don't you retake it? I seriously doubt any DO schools will accept a score that low.

The 492 was the retake. First attempt was 484.


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