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Please make a list of programs for me to look into?
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My first thought when I read this post is that you want us, a group of anonymous sarcastic snarky people, to do your research for you rather than taking the steps necessary to find a place that is a good match for you. I look forward to the firey comments.
Then I read your requirements again... you want a program, in a highly desirable location, with a highly desirable program atmosphere.... but not competitive.
Any program in a highly desirable location with a highly desirable program atmosphere is going to be competitive. You may be looking for a unicorn program.
Surely this is a troll post... I can't believe the things I'm reading here lately... Only day shifts please, can't decide if I'm a good candidate for EM with my 253 Step I, and now "I'm a DO and I don't feel like doing my own research so please make a list for me of perfect programs that aren't competitive". Rainbows and unicorn farts I tell ya...🙄
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do a little more research
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Better yet: I'll find you a list of noncompetitive programs in desirable locations that will also train you to practice FM on the side and only do day shifts.
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Medical students and pre-meds are gaining interest in EM due to rumors about money and lifestyle. Expect more of these threads to pop up. Maybe the mods can start dumping them into one master "don't be this guy" thread.
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and the med students bring you coffee and wipes down the keyboard before your shift starts
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naah, it's ok for the OP to ask, the simple answer is for the thought of a program to be non competitive, in a great environment, non malignant, easy going and end up training you in a specialty that pays well with a good lifestyle is such a untouchable deity.....that chuck norris prays to it
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The money isn't a myth. It is what it is. The lifestyle is good for some. It all comes down to comparisons anyway - lifestyle compared to general surgery? Internal med? Good lifestyle is often relative.
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Let me rephrase: Pre-medd and med students hear 30 hr work week for $200-400k/year and see nothing but rainbows and puppies. They don't actually think about if it's a good fit for them.
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Just FYI, a good board score does NOT necessarily equate to a more intelligent person. It means that said person has good test taking skills and perhaps is great at memorizing details, but does NOT necessarily mean that they are good at applying them. Board scores=ability is about the WORST argument that anyone can make.
As for your work load... Dude (or dudette, whatever), I don't know if you realized but most of the people here either are in med school or have finished it... you're not exactly in an exclusive club talking about how hard you have to work as EVERYBODY is/has done the same thing. While I'll agree that the biggest "a-holes" often are that way because they are just a-holes, sometimes people are harsh on you because of the attitude you express/convey to them in a conversation or situation. If you come across like you do here (like you think you're smarter than others and you have the board scores to prove it) then that will often incite others to show you just how much you don't know. Humility, that's the key. Be humble and be teachable, that's another key. No resident or attending is going to gravitate towards a student and give them a favorable attitude when they come off cocky or like a know it all. You have NO idea why someone works the hours or the way they do and your assumption that the person does it because they have no friends/life lacks the insight to who the person really is. Maybe you're right, but you have NO idea and when you form that opinion it actually shows and people can smell it on you like a GI bleed and treat you accordingly. Bottom line, your original post and subsequent rebuttals/replies stick out to me as an attitude issue, not as a problem with everyone else. Might be hard to swallow but I'm being honest with you and others will see it too on audition rotations and on the interview trail so I'm hoping, for your sake, you can figure out how to come across a little better between now and then because your awesome board score will get you plenty of interviews but people will figure this out when they meet you if you don't figure out how to change the perception you create. Again, no offense meant, just an unbiased assessment of how your requests, arguments, and excuses come across to others so you can take it or leave it and I invite any other readers to tell me my impression is incorrect if they see something different cuz I think you should be entitled to more than just my assessment. If others see it similarly, you might want to take it into consideration... Just my .02 👍
As for your work load... Dude (or dudette, whatever), I don't know if you realized but most of the people here either are in med school or have finished it... you're not exactly in an exclusive club talking about how hard you have to work as EVERYBODY is/has done the same thing. While I'll agree that the biggest "a-holes" often are that way because they are just a-holes, sometimes people are harsh on you because of the attitude you express/convey to them in a conversation or situation. If you come across like you do here (like you think you're smarter than others and you have the board scores to prove it) then that will often incite others to show you just how much you don't know. Humility, that's the key. Be humble and be teachable, that's another key. No resident or attending is going to gravitate towards a student and give them a favorable attitude when they come off cocky or like a know it all. You have NO idea why someone works the hours or the way they do and your assumption that the person does it because they have no friends/life lacks the insight to who the person really is. Maybe you're right, but you have NO idea and when you form that opinion it actually shows and people can smell it on you like a GI bleed and treat you accordingly. Bottom line, your original post and subsequent rebuttals/replies stick out to me as an attitude issue, not as a problem with everyone else. Might be hard to swallow but I'm being honest with you and others will see it too on audition rotations and on the interview trail so I'm hoping, for your sake, you can figure out how to come across a little better between now and then because your awesome board score will get you plenty of interviews but people will figure this out when they meet you if you don't figure out how to change the perception you create. Again, no offense meant, just an unbiased assessment of how your requests, arguments, and excuses come across to others so you can take it or leave it and I invite any other readers to tell me my impression is incorrect if they see something different cuz I think you should be entitled to more than just my assessment. If others see it similarly, you might want to take it into consideration... Just my .02 👍
Your message is more or less accurate. Except that
1)I do not have a problem with most residents. On the other hand I am surprised that they can function so well on their endless 80hrs. And it is true that when I get yelled at, there is usually a valid reason. And it is true that I will not do too well on the interviews and I am not deluded to think that I'll get into competitive programs.
2) Sorry, but unless you consider intelligence to be broken down into things like "music", "arts", "street smarts", then you're just making excuses. That person who called me stupid is clearly an idiot compared to me.
3) I addressed my post to someone with a title "medical student", not to a resident. And as I said I want this thread deleted, and I will eventually terminate my user name, because I use sdn to look up info about residencies, and maybe in the future I'll give advice to other students on how to succeed.
1)I do not have a problem with most residents. On the other hand I am surprised that they can function so well on their endless 80hrs. And it is true that when I get yelled at, there is usually a valid reason. And it is true that I will not do too well on the interviews and I am not deluded to think that I'll get into competitive programs.
2) Sorry, but unless you consider intelligence to be broken down into things like "music", "arts", "street smarts", then you're just making excuses. That person who called me stupid is clearly an idiot compared to me.
3) I addressed my post to someone with a title "medical student", not to a resident. And as I said I want this thread deleted, and I will eventually terminate my user name, because I use sdn to look up info about residencies, and maybe in the future I'll give advice to other students on how to succeed.
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who knows, but this quote is some funny ****
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