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[Gfunk6]

he issue is that he tried cutting corners via employing a CRNA.

This is a blatant lie. Did you even read the article? He hired an unlicensed nurse. If you are going to suggest that an unlicensed nurse is equivalent to a CRNA, then I think you can be brushed off as a troll.

Besides, if a surgeon (in an outpatient setting) is doing the same few, simple procedures over and over again it makes perfect sense to higher a CRNA.

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[stephend7799]

This is the first and probably last time I direct any comment towards you simply because it isn't worth my time. I have been reading a lot of your posts and honestly, what are you trying to prove? Coming to the Anesthesiology forum and calling our profession a joke? Who the he ll are you anyway to make that kind of remark? Look, I agree that almost anybody, with training can intubate and maintain a person under anesthesia for the duration of a relatively simple (i.e. lap chole, hernia, etc, etc) case. However, if you think for a second that that is all anesthesiology is about (and for the most part, that is what CRNAs and AAs are about), you probably need educate yourself a little more about what MDAs do, because you are clueless my friend. Until then, you really need to shut your word hole. I am sorry if you feel so damn insecure about yourself and your profession, but that gives you no right to bash somebody else's profession.

I agree nitecap should be put on post hold or banned.. All he or she does is come here and denegrate our profession and the AA profession.. The moderators need to look at his posts and send him on his way. He is a SRNA and he thinks he knows it all.. very dangerous individual.

 

[stephend7799]

This is a blatant lie. Did you even read the article? He hired an unlicensed nurse. If you are going to suggest that an unlicensed nurse is equivalent to a CRNA, then I think you can be brushed off as a troll.

Besides, if a surgeon (in an outpatient setting) is doing the same few, simple procedures over and over again it makes perfect sense to higher a CRNA.

the point of the matter is that plastic surgeons who dont use physicians as anesthesia providers and there is a major complication will be opening up their wallets and not to mention their practice will close.. why would you do that? TO save a couple of thousand dollars a day? Not worth it.. .
gamble with somebody elses life

 

[cfdavid]

Your profession is a joke and becomes even more hallarious as many students with non science Bach. degrees and no experience what so ever enter it. This will ultimatley lead to self implosion despite all the head you give to the ASA and I can promise you that I will exhaust all resources to lobby against your profession and the hipocracy of the ASA in claiming unsafeness of CRNA's while on the flip side promoting a less documented more servant like profession to increase control of and attempting to monopolize the market.

nitecap, you need to go check out the prerequisites of an AA program. While it's not necessary to have a science degree (nor is it for most professional programs including med school), they actually have MORE science prerequisites than medical schools require (and at least two AA programs require the MCAT). And not the kind of arm-chair science courses found in nursing curricula. So, I don't think your arguement holds water.

 

[ThinkFast007]

it's quite sad that we are gaining more and more insight into how CRNAs act like and what they're true intetions are. I think most of the older attendings,etc on here had a 'puritanical' impression of these CRNAs. however, now that nurse nitecap has dispelled the 'myth' about us being paranoid, and through his words displayed his true intetions...there's nothing left but to call a spade a spade

 

[Nltecap]

it's quite sad that we are gaining more and more insight into how CRNAs act like and what they're true intetions are. I think most of the older attendings,etc on here had a 'puritanical' impression of these CRNAs. however, now that nurse nitecap has dispelled the 'myth' about us being paranoid, and through his words displayed his true intetions...there's nothing left but to call a spade a spade

You are right. I just have buyer's remorse for not having gone all the way to MDA. I hate the residents in general because they are my future bosses. Bastards.

 

[blue helmet]

i know this is about anesthesiology and not politics, but just wanted to say that thinkfast, i like your enthusiasm for organized medicine... physicians are the only group who are denied a union to represent their interests. thus, there is no incentive for law makers or the public to take an individual doctor seriously and in the end, it is really hurting patients most. At our state medical conference this past week, dozens of resolutions addressing these issues that will or have impacted anesthesiologists and physicians in general were brought up- the alarming trend showing movement towards limiting the decision making skills and autonomy of docs- also echoed by guest presidents from other state medical societies.. AMA, ASA, state medical societies- its the closest we will ever get to a union and we need to support them...

as MDs, DOs- and especially young resident docs and to- bes (like me), we have to get fired up now and stand to protect our interests... i respect mid-level care providers- i have close (and hot 😉 ) friends who are PAs and NPs, and sometimes i've learned more from experienced, friendly mid-level providers than busy attendings who didn't say much. but mid-levels have their own interests, and it's not always compatible with ours. when i speak to attending surgeons or anesthesiologists, there is no doubt in their minds what the roles are concerning mid level care providers and anesthesiologists. it's up on the state or national cap. hill where the boundaries- and consequences- are blurred. that is where we need to focus our attention on. im not trying to preach, just glad to see a doc-to-be stirred up...no flames please...

 

[Lee]

As is our usual policy, threads that degenerate to name-calling will be closed.

Additionally, some of the recent posts were clearly generated to create a hostile forums environment.

Lastly, this is a forum for physicians and medical students. Other medical professionals are welcome, but those who come here to stir-up trouble will be banned.