post-docs and career

[Una]

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Post-doc fellowships - can a clinical psychologist do ANYTHING without taking them, unless it is simple full time private practice?
I am not talking about becoming an academic. I am talking about doing clinical work at a hospital while also working part-time as a researcher - there are quite a few of these positions out there (if you look in the APA job postings), that offer clinical work with possible research/teaching involvement, or clinical director positions. But do you need to have a 2 year post doc to qualify? It seems that it would be horribly annoying to take another 2 years of gradschool AFTER getting the phD (which is what post-docs are).

 

[sasevan]

Post-doc fellowships - can a clinical psychologist do ANYTHING without taking them, unless it is simple full time private practice?
I am not talking about becoming an academic. I am talking about doing clinical work at a hospital while also working part-time as a researcher - there are quite a few of these positions out there (if you look in the APA job postings), that offer clinical work with possible research/teaching involvement, or clinical director positions. But do you need to have a 2 year post doc to qualify? It seems that it would be horribly annoying to take another 2 years of gradschool AFTER getting the phD (which is what post-docs are).

Hi Una,
"No," one cannot do ANYTHING-including a simple full time private practice-without having done the ONE year post-doc fellowship. The post-doc is necessary to qualify for licensure without which one cannot provide clinical services though one may be able to provide academic ones such as teaching and research (check with your State licensing board). However, a formal post-doc is not required. Formal post-docs are those that are APA approved and/or APPIC advertised. An informal one is any clinical experience that is supervised by a licensed psychologist. So one may do either but please keep in mind that your State licensing board is less likely to raise concerns about the nature and extend of your post-doc training if it was in an organized program that is well known to them instead of by a solitary practitioner somewhere-believe me, by the time you're finishing the post-doc you will probably not want to have any unexpected delays affecting your licensing.(BTW, a formal fellowship is not a pre-requisite for any professional position-unlike formal internships which often are. Also, two year post-docs are only required for neuropsychology, though, at least in Florida, one also needs a one year post-licensure to provide certain assessment services such as Court ordered forensic examinations and vocation rehabilitation evaluations).
Peace.
P.S. One more thought, a formal post-doc can often evolve into a professional experience, especially if one wants a career in a university affiliated hospital.

 

[goolesss]

Do you get paid while doing a Post Back?

Hi Una,
"No," one cannot do ANYTHING-including a simple full time private practice-without having done the ONE year post-doc fellowship. The post-doc is necessary to qualify for licensure without which one cannot provide clinical services though one may be able to provide academic ones such as teaching and research (check with your State licensing board). However, a formal post-doc is not required. Formal post-docs are those that are APA approved and/or APPIC advertised. An informal one is any clinical experience that is supervised by a licensed psychologist. So one may do either but please keep in mind that your State licensing board is less likely to raise concerns about the nature and extend of your post-doc training if it was in an organized program that is well known to them instead of by a solitary practitioner somewhere-believe me, by the time you're finishing the post-doc you will probably not want to have any unexpected delays affecting your licensing.(BTW, a formal fellowship is not a pre-requisite for any professional position-unlike formal internships which often are. Also, two year post-docs are only required for neuropsychology, though, at least in Florida, one also needs a one year post-licensure to provide certain assessment services such as Court ordered forensic examinations and vocation rehabilitation evaluations).
Peace.
P.S. One more thought, a formal post-doc can often evolve into a professional experience, especially if one wants a career in a university affiliated hospital.

 

[gzaky]

Do you get paid while doing a Post Back?

It depends on the site that you attend for your post doc. Not all of them pay.