Potential interview question: Do you own any guns?

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Anyway, perhaps entertaining theoretical mugging situations is not the most productive conversation. The idea is that if you make someone nervous thats holding a gun to you they are likely to discharge it as you are withdrawing a weapon. In any case, this isn't really my point. I'm glad to hear that PA requires you to hand over your wallet and that you wouldn't entertaining using a firearm in that situation anyway.

I understand your reasoning re having a gun being insurance, the only problem with it that I have is that having insurance doesn't put anyone else in danger while the laws and massive firearm production that allows you to have a handgun do. Perhaps there is a reasonable middle ground as you've suggested that could reduce the number of guns, especially those in the street, without forcing people who insist on having a gun in the house.

Long story short, there needs to be a system in place to keep guns from hitting the street because what we have in place just isnt doing it. Like youve mentioned, you (and I for that matter) are not experts in the field. I have a masters in forensics and I still dont know what the total solution is here. Thats the issue IMO...politicians dont consult the people who actually have done the requisite research to figure out how guns are getting on the streets and how to stop it. They just have knee jerk reactions; "ban high capacity mags"(which i see no reason you need 30 round mags anyway), ban fully auto weapons, etc....when that does nothing to attack the actual problem. Are people doing straw purchasing? Are guns hitting the streets through burglaries? There are easy solutions to both. My ID card method kills that first bird....requiring that everyone has an unmovable gun safe kills that second. The problem is that everyone is either super pro gun or super anti gun and nobody is willing to work together to figure out a solution.
 
Long story short, there needs to be a system in place to keep guns from hitting the street because what we have in place just isnt doing it. Like youve mentioned, you (and I for that matter) are not experts in the field. I have a masters in forensics and I still dont know what the total solution is here. Thats the issue IMO...politicians dont consult the people who actually have done the requisite research to figure out how guns are getting on the streets and how to stop it. They just have knee jerk reactions; "ban high capacity mags"(which i see no reason you need 30 round mags anyway), ban fully auto weapons, etc....when that does nothing to attack the actual problem. Are people doing straw purchasing? Are guns hitting the streets through burglaries? There are easy solutions to both. My ID card method kills that first bird....requiring that everyone has an unmovable gun safe kills that second. The problem is that everyone is either super pro gun or super anti gun and nobody is willing to work together to figure out a solution.

Just for the record, I am neither pro gun or anti gun. I don't own a gun. I am pro freedom. You can't legislate good behavior. You just have to put in punitive reactions to those that take liberty from others. Anyone crazy enough to shoot someone will surely find another way to carry out that evil deed with or without guns. The guns aren't the problem, the people are.
 
What's the over/under of thread pages this topic goes?

I'll be taking bets.
 
I'd say yes sir and I'm a daughter of a proud member of the NRA 😛
 
What's the over/under of thread pages this topic goes?

I'll be taking bets.

I'll say 5 pages. Most of us will want to get back to doctoring, and not shooting up the message board with topics like these! :laugh:
 
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Op: I'd answer "no".

I have several fire arms and I live in CA. The first one that I bought was a smith & wesson revolver. I purchased it a couple of days after I was robbed at gunpoint in my driveway. It was 2am and I was blocked in because they parked in front of the driveway exit. If I had a firearm I could have shot through the back window and stopped the threat. Anyway, I take it with me in my car where ever I go. I have had to pull it out 4 times in the past 7 years. The last time was when I was in the exact same situation that caused me to purchase it in the first place. This was the only time that it has been fired outside of a range. They weren't armed, and two warning shots above their heads was enough to scare them away. They didn't even bother getting back in their car, they ran in opposite directions down the street. I guess their driver rounded em up around the block. :laugh:

You don't like me carrying a gun where ever I go? Too bad. You're probably those tuff guys trying to act like a badass for no reason or you're those guys that robbed or tried to rob me. It happened once and it won't happen again. Nice try on the second time though. 😉
 
^^ 👍 to the hardcore story

I've got a 92G-SD "Special Duty". It's a 9mm with a light rail and brigadier slide, factory night sights, and extended magazine release. Also attached is an M3 light. I bought it a few years ago at a "gun show" that came into town. I actually don't ever carry it with me; it just stays locked up in the safe until I go to the range.
 
Op: I'd answer "no".

I have several fire arms and I live in CA. The first one that I bought was a smith & wesson revolver. I purchased it a couple of days after I was robbed at gunpoint in my driveway. It was 2am and I was blocked in because they parked in front of the driveway exit. If I had a firearm I could have shot through the back window and stopped the threat. Anyway, I take it with me in my car where ever I go. I have had to pull it out 4 times in the past 7 years. The last time was when I was in the exact same situation that caused me to purchase it in the first place. This was the only time that it has been fired outside of a range. They weren't armed, and two warning shots above their heads was enough to scare them away. They didn't even bother getting back in their car, they ran in opposite directions down the street. I guess their driver rounded em up around the block. :laugh:

You don't like me carrying a gun where ever I go? Too bad. You're probably those tuff guys trying to act like a badass for no reason or you're those guys that robbed or tried to rob me. It happened once and it won't happen again. Nice try on the second time though. 😉

Have you looked up laws in your state for justified drawing and use of a weapon? California's generally very strict, and warning shots aren't kosher anywhere. Wouldn't want to end up in jail for trying to defend yourself (it's happened).
 
Have you looked up laws in your state for justified drawing and use of a weapon? California's generally very strict, and warning shots aren't kosher anywhere. Wouldn't want to end up in jail for trying to defend yourself (it's happened).

+11million

Like I stated before...you cant just kill someone for robbing you. Who knows how this situation would go. If someone pulled a knife/gun on your and you were either in your car with no way to get out/parked in you would probably have a valid case.

If have thought pretty extensively about what I would do in such a situation and I think if the person was robbing me and had a knife/gun out I would potentially shoot however. Parry the gun and fire. Who knows though..cant tell what youd do until youre actually there. I have a hard time believing that a jury would convict me/even ge this past arraignment in such situation. Med student with not even a single contact with the law outside speeding tickets; with valid permit to carry vs. known gangbanger with many arrests robbing someone at knifepoint/gunpoint. Doesnt exactly seem like a slam dunk case.

However in PA you can fire on someone for entering your home. You just need to warm them that you will fire. If they dont leave thats enough of an escalation to assume you will be harmed. Castle exception baby.
 
Have you looked up laws in your state for justified drawing and use of a weapon? California's generally very strict, and warning shots aren't kosher anywhere. Wouldn't want to end up in jail for trying to defend yourself (it's happened).

Also, Ilovedrugs you need a permit to be carrying a loaded gun in your car - do you have that?

You wouldn't want to end up in jail on a concealed weapon charge either.
 
Also, Ilovedrugs you need a permit to be carrying a loaded gun in your car - do you have that?

You wouldn't want to end up in jail on a concealed weapon charge either.

I am sure he has one..but I can see the thread coming now.

"Guys I got arrested on a concealed weapons charge...do you think the background check will find it or should I tell the ADCOMS outright"
 
I am sure he has one..but I can see the thread coming now.

"Guys I got arrested on a concealed weapons charge...do you think the background check will find it or should I tell the ADCOMS outright"

I dunno. In California, its pretty tricky to get a concealed weapon permit. You have to be able to show need. Not just desire. Of course thats up to the judge, but a lot of times its people who have been threatened because of who they are, not just involved in random violence.

It also requires a course on appropriate use of a firearm. The fact that he doesn't know he's breaking the law by firing warning shots makes me think he likely hasn't taken said course.

Also, :laugh::laugh: its just a matter of time
 
I dunno. In California, its pretty tricky to get a concealed weapon permit. You have to be able to show need. Not just desire. Of course thats up to the judge, but a lot of times its people who have been threatened because of who they are, not just involved in random violence.

It also requires a course on appropriate use of a firearm. The fact that he doesn't know he's breaking the law by firing warning shots makes me think he likely hasn't taken said course.

Also, :laugh::laugh: its just a matter of time

Yeah I knew that Cali is like that with permits. PA is a "must issue" state...as in they must issue you a permit unless you are deemed mentally ill/a felon, etc. The process consists of this: You walk into your County sheriffs office. You get a form and a "local police check card." You bring the check card to your township police dept. They have a detective do a background check on your (takes about a week). You bring the completed check card back to the sheriffs office with a check for 65 bucks and you walk out with a shiny new permit. From what I understand the detective investigation is pretty comprehensive. When I lived in Philadelphia county I was also fingerprinted. In my current county I dont think I needed to get printed.
 
Also Ilovedrugs. If you are planning on firing through autoglass make sure to pick up bonded core rounds...or FMJ ball ammo. Typical swaged hollowpoints will completely tear to **** when they go through autoglass. Just sayin 🙂
 
I carry 24/7 (if allowed by law) at +1 (that means one loaded in the chamber). I' believe that if you don't intend to use the gun it shouldn't leave the holster. If I am drawing my gun I am going to shoot it. I carry hollow points and I am not shooting to wound.



If presented with the situation where my life is in immediate danger and I believe that I could be killed your damn right I am shooting.


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How would you respond to this?

I'm really bored... Hypothetical answers GO!

The correct answer is to slowly look at your left arm, then slowly look at your right arm, then look back to the interview with a smug look on your face.

Edit: That sentence ended up with a lot of "look" in it. Replace some of them with glance and other synonyms.
 
What's the over/under of thread pages this topic goes?

I'll be taking bets.

I'm gonna go ahead and pat myself on the back for this thread :laugh:

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some people really think they live in the wild west...
 
You can't buy full auto anything. Try that and youll end up serving hard time. The military and police are the only ones allowed full auto weapons.

yeah, false. You need a class 3 license and a LOT of money (10k+/weapon) to buy automatic
 
I retract. I have been failed by many people I thought were in the know.

But now that I know that I am allowed to purchase full auto guess who is going to start jumping through the hoops for a pre-ban MP5.

I think the people I talked to were mistaken in that all full auto guns you can purchase now had to be made before the ban in 1986. I think they just thought the ban of 86 meant you could have one at all.
 
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yeah, false. You need a class 3 license and a LOT of money (10k+/weapon) to buy automatic

Also false, you do not need to be a Class III FFL to buy and own automatics manufactured before 1986, any civilian (over 21, no felonies etc etc) can own one as long as city, county, and state laws don't forbid it. Class III dealers can not "own" any machine gun made after 1986 and need a demo letter from a PD in order to "have" it. Once the license goes, so do the post-'86 guns. Class III FFLs are called Special Occupational Taxpayers (SOTs).

It is true that the cheapest pre-'86 NFA registered MG is around $4,000 (Cobray M11), and some are $80,000 (FN Minimi, the M249 predecessor) and maybe more.
 
I actually posted this on page 1 to help educate people that don't understand laws regarding machine guns and similar things and realize that you can't just go down to the gunshow or sporting goods store and buy bazookas or machine guns.


Machine guns made before 1986 (fully automatic, not semi-automatic), short barreled rifles, shortbarreled shotguns, Destructive devices (over .50 caliber and some shotguns and all grenade launchers), Suppressors (silencers), and AOWs (Any Other Weapon, i.e. pen guns, cane guns, shotgun pistols, pistols with foreward verticle grip etc) are all legal to own in America but they must be registered with the NFA, and you must pay a $200 tax (except for AOWs which is $5 tax), submit fingerprints, passport photos, a big federal form, submit to an FBI background check, and have a Chief Law Enforcement Officer sign off on the purchase and this takes many months and is very expensive. This is so restrictive that in the history of the NFA the only crimes that involved the use of registered machines guns were only two, and one of them was be a deranged cop.
 
I actually posted this on page 1 to help educate people that don't understand laws regarding machine guns and similar things and realize that you can't just go down to the gunshow or sporting goods store and buy bazookas or machine guns.


Machine guns made before 1986 (fully automatic, not semi-automatic), short barreled rifles, shortbarreled shotguns, Destructive devices (over .50 caliber and some shotguns and all grenade launchers), Suppressors (silencers), and AOWs (Any Other Weapon, i.e. pen guns, cane guns, shotgun pistols, pistols with foreward verticle grip etc) are all legal to own in America but they must be registered with the NFA, and you must pay a $200 tax (except for AOWs which is $5 tax), submit fingerprints, passport photos, a big federal form, submit to an FBI background check, and have a Chief Law Enforcement Officer sign off on the purchase and this takes many months and is very expensive. This is so restrictive that in the history of the NFA the only crimes that involved the use of registered machines guns were only two, and one of them was be a deranged cop.

In some places its that hard just to get a hunting rifle.
 
I retract. I have been failed by many people I thought were in the know.

But now that I know that I am allowed to purchase full auto guess who is going to start jumping through the hoops for a pre-ban MP5.

I think the people I talked to were mistaken in that all full auto guns you can purchase now had to be made before the ban in 1986. I think they just thought the ban of 86 meant you could have one at all.


Its actually kindof surprising to find out high the percent of physicians that own MGs is. It may have to do with the higher disposable income too. But also a lot of the guys taking defense pistol courses and even the sub-gun and carbine courses are docs of some sort. A pre-86 transferable MP5 will run ya about $15,000. It is really a $600 gun, but supply vs. demand has created this huge inflation. We may have to wait a few paychecks after residency before picking one up.
 
Have you looked up laws in your state for justified drawing and use of a weapon? California's generally very strict, and warning shots aren't kosher anywhere. Wouldn't want to end up in jail for trying to defend yourself (it's happened).

Also, Ilovedrugs you need a permit to be carrying a loaded gun in your car - do you have that?

You wouldn't want to end up in jail on a concealed weapon charge either.
It's not loaded. The gun is kept in a locked box. There's nothing illegal about transporting a gun like that.

Also, about the warning shots, I let them know that I was armed but they didn't believe me and actually snickered and kept walking forward. The driveway is on the side of the building and it can be pitch black there, so I'm guessing they couldn't see me and thought I was bluffing. I wasn't about to let them get closer. I know I would have gone to jail for doing what I did, but I went inside my home and nothing happened after the situation ended.

inb4: proper gun use, bullets coming down kill people, do no harm, you will make a horrible doctor.
 
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In some places its that hard just to get a hunting rifle.

and I will never live in a place like that.

I cant wait to slang some lead tomorrow. Hmm what shall I bring. Nagant is def coming out, sig p245 is def coming out, ruger no 1 45 70 is def coming out. I hate having to clean more than a few guns at a time. That nagant ammo is FILTHY too. Ugh.
 
Yeah, california is lame. 10 round maximums and concealed carry pretty much non-existent in LA or SF. Word on the street is, LA is probably the hardest place to get a CCW permit. I just think it's ridiculous.
 
inb4: proper gun use, bullets coming down kill people, do no harm, you will make a horrible doctor.

I grew up and am currently living in a pretty rough neighborhood (home invasions, yes. murders, yes. next-door neighbor getting mugged at 5AM, yes. gang violence, yes.), but I'm still on the fence about whether or not to arm myself. And I have gotten into situations where a gun has been pointed at my face, so it's not like I've never been in harm's way.

My thinking is that if their intent was to kill you, you'd already be dead in most situations, armed or not.
 
I own a nerf gun. 😀

My husband owns a sniper rifle....just in case there is a zombie invasion.
 
Yeah, california is lame. 10 round maximums and concealed carry pretty much non-existent in LA or SF. Word on the street is, LA is probably the hardest place to get a CCW permit. I just think it's ridiculous.
There is no law on open carry of an unloaded gun in CA. There is no law about carrying a loaded magazine either.
 
I competitively shoot 3-gun, so the answer to whether I own guns or not is a resounding Yes, and many. At two of my interviews, I've had good conversations with my interviewers about firearms and sports shooting.

The type of firearms I own including a good number of military-style rifles, and pistols. I shoot them regularly, compete with them regularly. My main competition go-to gun is usually on my hip at all times and locations, legally permitting. As I have seen in my current line of work, having some form of self-protection is very prudent, and it is risky to maintain the attitude of "crime can't happen to me."

"Mexico blames the U.S. for arming the world's most powerful drug cartels, a complaint supported on Friday by a U.S. government report that found nearly all of Mexico's escalating drug killings involved weapons from north of the border."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/02/28/world/main4835694.shtml

"[W]hile it is impossible to know how many firearms are illegally smuggled into Mexico in a given year, about 87% of the firearms seized by Mexican authorities and traced in the last five years originated in the U.S., according to data from Dept. of Justice’s Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. According to U.S. and Mexican officials, these firearms have been increasingly more powerful and lethal in recent years."

This information is not only wrong, but an outright lie. According to the Beuro of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, the number of mexican crime guns that could be traced to the US is closer to about 17%, not 87%.

According to the BATFE:

"In 2007-2008, according to ATF Special Agent William Newell, Mexico submitted 11,000 guns to the ATF for tracing. Close to 6,000 were successfully traced -- and of those, 90 percent -- 5,114 to be exact, according to testimony in Congress by William Hoover -- were found to have come from the U.S.
But in those same two years, according to the Mexican government, 29,000 guns were recovered at crime scenes.
In other words, 68 percent of the guns that were recovered were never submitted for tracing. And when you weed out the roughly 6,000 guns that could not be traced from the remaining 32 percent, it means 83 percent of the guns found at crime scenes in Mexico could not be traced to the U.S.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/02/myth-percent-small-fraction-guns-mexico-come#ixzz1D26OWdXY"

Various arms smugglers can be thanked for this figure, along with theft from the Mexican government. Approximately 32,000 soldiers have deserted from the mexican army since 2005 (iirc), taking all kinds of things with them, including their issued rifles.

In addition, smuggling accounts for a large number of guns in the cartel's hands. This makes a lot of fiscal sense to the cartels: Why smuggle individual semi-automatic rifles bought for $1,000+ in the US across the Mexican border, when the can buy crates of fully-automatic Chinese AKMs for about $120 each (average street price for an AK in the world is $40-$120 as of 2004).

As for the notion that taking away guns will lower crime, I submit the experience that Australia has had. In 1996 Australia banned and confiscated firearms from almost all its citizens. The result was that in 1997, there was a modest increase in homicides, burglary, robbery, and armed robbery. (link). In the US there has been over 10,000 gun control laws passed, yet even the CDC has concluded that not even one of those laws had been effective at lower crime.

The conclusion that the CDC came to was that removing firearms had a very small statistically insignificant impact on crime - that is the CDC concluded that on violent crime, access is to firearms is not a major contributor to the likelihood of it occurring. If people want to hurt one another, Knives, Screw Drivers, sports equipment, and various miscellaneous items are just as effective and much more available then firearms.

As for the constitutional rights to bear arms referring only to muskets, I agree. Likewise, the freedom of speech and press only applies to oratory and movable type. The government is perfectly within their rights to censor other information media not directly enumerated within the constitution, including, but not limited to the internet, television, any documents printed using modern printing techniques, radio, and et cetra. So, you do have the right to say what you say, just not on the internet, radio, television, over the phone, or with anything printed using an non-1770's movable type printer.
 
Every "illegal gun" was once a legal gun.
No.

Anyway, perhaps entertaining theoretical mugging situations is not the most productive conversation. The idea is that if you make someone nervous thats holding a gun to you they are likely to discharge it as you are withdrawing a weapon. In any case, this isn't really my point. I'm glad to hear that PA requires you to hand over your wallet and that you wouldn't entertaining using a firearm in that situation anyway.
Because you like mugging people? The world would be a better place without muggers, and I don't feel bad for any that get shot.
 
There is no law on open carry of an unloaded gun in CA. There is no law about carrying a loaded magazine either.

Well there's no law about open carry except its not much use.
1) You can't open carry a loaded gun except in your home or a campsite
2) You can't open carry in a boatload of restricted locations including state parks, federal bldgs, within 1000 feet of schools, and a multitude of local limitations. While its nice in theory that there's no law against open carry the likelihood you're going to accidentally enter a school zone or other restricted area is high so it seems like a bad idea.

As far as loaded magazines - there isn't a law against carrying them but they have to be carried openly as well. A while ago (70s I think) a court case ruled against someone for carrying his weapon openly but the loaded magazine concealed. Since then they have used that court case against others who carried concealed magazines.

The only places I carry my gun are to and from the firing range and camping. Outside of that its just too risky that you're going to end up breaking a law accidentally. California is just too restrictive.
 
There is no law on open carry of an unloaded gun in CA. There is no law about carrying a loaded magazine either.

Yeah, I know about that too. It just doesn't make sense to me. . Is there a law against concealing an unloaded handgun? I mean, I wouldn't want to walk around with an unloaded gun holstered at my hip. Just brings unnecessary attention.
 
There is no law on open carry of an unloaded gun in CA. There is no law about carrying a loaded magazine either.


In PA, there is no law against open carry of a gun, regardless of loaded status or firearm type. No license is needed for open carry, just concealed carry (e.g. under clothing or in an automobile). These laws extend to all parts of the state, except for Philadelphia, where a license is required even for open carry.

This brings me to my main point: while it is perfectly legal to openly carry firearms in my state, I have been advised by many -- including those in law enforcement -- that it is foolish to carry weapons openly, especially in urban areas. Depending on a police officer's attitude, I could be arrested for disturbing the peace and could even have my carrier's license confiscated and sent back for revocation.
 
Yeah, I would imagine that a plain clothes person with an open carry would lead to many people calling 911.
 
Yeah, I would imagine that a plain clothes person with an open carry would lead to many people calling 911.
It does. Some guy was getting on a bus with a shotgun, unloaded and in a plastic carrying case, and people freaked out. How else is someone who uses public transportation supposed to go to a firing range? 🙄 If he were going to blow people away, I think he would maybe try to HIDE the gun...
 
As for the constitutional rights to bear arms referring only to muskets, I agree. Likewise, the freedom of speech and press only applies to oratory and movable type. The government is perfectly within their rights to censor other information media not directly enumerated within the constitution, including, but not limited to the internet, television, any documents printed using modern printing techniques, radio, and et cetra. So, you do have the right to say what you say, just not on the internet, radio, television, over the phone, or with anything printed using an non-1770's movable type printer.
This is the greatest (or at least funniest) counter-argument I've ever heard to the anti-2nd Amendment rhetoric. Thumbs up from me.

FWIW, I'm a Soldier, I own several guns, and I wouldn't have any issue at all telling that to an interviewer. If he/she decides to say something negative about me becuase I do, I will smile and say, "You're welcome" as the right to speak out against goverment policy/constitutional rights is something that their taxes bought, and our bullets ensured.
 
Until we find a cure for the T virus, I think gun ownership is prudent. Double taps.

The only reason I went into Biochemistry was because of William and his precious G-Virus. You are my new hero/BFF.
 
This is the greatest (or at least funniest) counter-argument I've ever heard to the anti-2nd Amendment rhetoric. Thumbs up from me.

FWIW, I'm a Soldier, I own several guns, and I wouldn't have any issue at all telling that to an interviewer. If he/she decides to say something negative about me becuase I do, I will smile and say, "You're welcome" as the right to speak out against goverment policy/constitutional rights is something that their taxes bought, and our bullets ensured.

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Thanks protecting the free world, this is on behalf of one who actually appreciates such a thing! Also we have to remember that when the Consitution was written that muskets were the most advanced infantry weapons that existed!
 
The only reason I went into Biochemistry was because of William and his precious G-Virus. You are my new hero/BFF.

There should be a thread started called "Potential Interview Question: Do you intend to become a mad scientist? How would you respond?"

We arn't going through 4 years of Evil medical school just to be called Mr. Evil, right?
 
It does. Some guy was getting on a bus with a shotgun, unloaded and in a plastic carrying case, and people freaked out. How else is someone who uses public transportation supposed to go to a firing range? 🙄 If he were going to blow people away, I think he would maybe try to HIDE the gun...

People are too uppity and paranoid about this issue...


That and come to Indiana where you can carry all you want. Eight of my friends regularly carry weapons with them on a daily basis. I'm used to it by now... :laugh: I've shot plenty of guns and plan on owning a gun in the near future (financial restrictions, of course) and Indiana doesn't have any issues with that. So, if I had to answer, I wouldn't lie about it if I had a gun. But I wouldn't pull it out for the guy to see, either. :meanie:
 
There's no reason to have a scope that big on an assault rifle (with a CQB handle wtf)...

Sure there is. The AR can be a pretty accurate platform at distance, it is certainly not just a close quarters weapon. I've seen lots with some sort variable scope as well as a red dot optic (for CQC) mounted on an offset bracket.
 
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