Potential research paper; where to go in application?

[StudentDentistsRock]

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Hi all,

I am working on a first author research paper that I am submitting for review to a chemistry journal end of July.

Is there anywhere in the application where I can highlight this? I was hoping to have the paper out but unfortunately, I ran into some issues and was away from research for a while. If it was a 3rd or even 2nd author, I probably wouldn't bother. But since it's a first, I'm sure it would be a +1/2 for my application instead of a +1 if it was actually released. I don't know if it's worth mentioning but maybe important for research based dent schools such as Harvard?

Thoughts? Is it worth it?

 

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[minionphil]

Don't be ridiculous, i would definitely put the research on the application even if i was the last author. Having your name alone on a publication is an attention getter.


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Last author is usually the PI of the lab lol, but yeah I agree, it's worth putting that down in the application no matter where your name is!

 

[minionphil]

Hi all,

I am working on a first author research paper that I am submitting for review to a chemistry journal end of July.

Is there anywhere in the application where I can highlight this? I was hoping to have the paper out but unfortunately, I ran into some issues and was away from research for a while. If it was a 3rd or even 2nd author, I probably wouldn't bother. But since it's a first, I'm sure it would be a +1/2 for my application instead of a +1 if it was actually released. I don't know if it's worth mentioning but maybe important for research based dent schools such as Harvard?

Thoughts? Is it worth it?

Actually, I would only put that down AFTER you submit it. You can always update the schools once you have it submitted.

 

[StudentDentistsRock]

Actually, I would only put that down AFTER you submit it. You can always update the schools once you have it submitted.

I don't know how affective updating schools is later on, but I guess that's all I can do for now.

Edit:
also, keep in mind that submitting a paper is not the same as a full publication. After review submission, I have to wait a few months for the paper to get reviewed, come back to me, make revisions, and send it back out again.

I won't be able to get the paper fully published by the time I get interviews/acceptances.

 

[minionphil]

I don't know how affective updating schools is later on, but I guess that's all I can do for now.

Edit:
also, keep in mind that submitting a paper is not the same as a full publication. After review submission, I have to wait a few months for the paper to get reviewed, come back to me, make revisions, and send it back out again.

I won't be able to get the paper fully published by the time I get interviews/acceptances.

Yeah, I know...the process is long and full of terror (GOT fan?)

I think under your "research experience", you could mention something like "publication to be submitted in July 2017." But honestly, I don't think that will be nearly as convincing as "publication submitted for review xx/xx" in my opinion.

 

[StudentDentistsRock]

Yeah, I know...the process is long and full of terror (GOT fan?)

I think under your "research experience", you could mention something like "publication to be submitted in July 2017." But honestly, I don't think that will be nearly as convincing as "publication submitted for review xx/xx" in my opinion.

Yeah. I agree.

I also asked if my research prof could maybe mention it in the rec letter he's writing me if it helps.

 

[toothdoctor123]

Just describe it in the research section of your application. The application is organized around experiences/projects, not papers. In that sense, it's more like a job resume than a CV.

The heading of each entry refers to the lab, the PI, your position, number of hours, etc. Then, in the description, you describe what you did--this is where you can choose to mention whether your work produced a paper. You can write about it however you want.

Since this whole section is effectively optional, anything you enter will attract the attention of the adcoms. Thus, they will likely read your description and notice if you say that the paper was submitted for publication. It's definitely worth mentioning.

However, the general consensus is that adcoms are impressed by any substantive research experience. Publications are simply icing on the cake. The primary benefit of the application format is that you can enter any research experience without having to mention whether you published a paper. For example, I included research projects that I did for academic credit.

 

[minionphil]

Just describe it in the research section of your application. The application is organized around experiences/projects, not papers. In that sense, it's more like a job resume than a CV.

The heading of each entry refers to the lab, the PI, your position, number of hours, etc. Then, in the description, you describe what you did--this is where you can choose to mention whether your work produced a paper. You can write about it however you want.

Since this whole section is effectively optional, anything you enter will attract the attention of the adcoms. Thus, they will likely read you description and notice if you say that the paper was submitted for publication. It's definitely worth mentioning.

However, the general consensus is that adcoms are impressed by any substantive research experience. Publications are icing on the cake. The primary benefit of the application format is that you can enter any research experience without having to mention whether you produced a paper. For example, I included research projects that I did for academic credit.

Hey, do you happen to know what's the character limit for that section? Thanks!

 

[minionphil]

Yeah. I agree.

I also asked if my research prof could maybe mention it in the rec letter he's writing me if it helps.

Yeah, having your PI mentioning it would definitely be more effective.

 

[toothdoctor123]

Hey, do you happen to know what's the character limit for that section? Thanks!

I forget. It's pretty short though.

 

[minionphil]

I forget. It's pretty short though.

Yeah, I read somewhere that it is 175 characters? Which is just 1 sentence or 2...

 

[Accordion]

The best way to do this is to write about your research experience in the research section and, as someone mentioned, have your PI mention it in the LOR. Additionally, a paper actually submitted means much, much more than something in preparation. However, what matters at the end of the day is your actual research experiences. People work 100 hours and get a publication. People work 2,500 hours and get no publication. It just depends on a lot of factors, many out of your control. However, what you can control is how well you talk about it and what you learned.