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Which has the best opportunities for pre meds?
Which has the best opportunities for pre meds?
Which has the best opportunities for pre meds?
Which has the best opportunities for pre meds?
I can't speak on Loyola, but I've taken (summer) pre med classes at both UIC and Depaul. I have never seen so much blatant cheating as I did at UIC. It was absolutely insane and I've written feedback to the profs and TAs about it. They reuse old quizzes, don't change the questions or answers, and students get old copies from their friends and openly copy from the old quiz to the new quiz during quizzes, while the TA watches youtube and doesn't care. Same goes for labs, where some students walk out of a four hour lab after 30 minutes, turning in a full lab writeup. Again, the TA is too busy on youtube...
Apart from that, a con I noticed with UIC is classes can be huge (mine was capped at 72, whereas Depaul was 40 or so), and professors can be hit or miss (my brother dropped a class as one professor's accent was so thick he couldn't understand him, but my prof was nice), though it is much cheaper and there are a fair amount more research opportunities. I also assume you have a certain leg up at getting into UIC's med school, but I have no data to back that up.
As for Depaul, it was more expensive, class sizes were smaller, I didn't notice any cheating, but the student body seemed a lot less motivated. I was in a class with quite a few students who just wanted a C for the degree, whereas at UIC I was with a bunch of pre meds who wanted an A for upping the GPA. There are plenty of research opportunities at Depaul as well, just not as many as at UIC.
I didn't think any school was particularly harder, though I believe UIC doesn't give pluses or minuses, which helped me as I tend to fall just short of A's and get A-s. UIC is also on a semester system, whereas Depaul is quarters, at least during summers.
For me, I liked Depaul as it seemed to have a more cooperative and less competitive atmosphere, but I believe UIC is better for most people.
edit: One more thing... grading. Both have sort of a curve, but Depaul was more percent based (if you get above this score, you get an A, this, an A-, this, a B+, etc.) whereas UIC was a weird bell curve normalized for all tests. Our wonderful </sarcasm> TA sent everyone everyone's lab grades in an excel file (privacy much?), and a list of names of who got an incomplete, that also had the grading criterion for last semester's class, and an A was based on having sqrt(2) times the average score. A C was sqrt(2)/2 times the average score, and a B was somewhere in between.
Are you a dirty hipster? Go to Loyola
Do you look like an extra from that irritating Tommy Hillfiger commercial? Go to DePaul
Are you indian and/or Chinese? Go to UIC
THIS^^^^^ lol! although there are a lot of dirty hipsters at ANY chicago school... including depaul. the standard uniform for non-science majors at depaul is either hipster or north face-ugg boots combo. for science majors? sweat pants, dirty tee that has been stained by iodine/bromblue/crystal violet and has holes from chemical/bunsen burns. at least that was me..
don't forget $$$. (of course students considering northwestern and depaul aren't the type to be concerned about the cost of school).