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Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - MD' started by kreno, Jan 20, 2002.

  1. kreno

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    I'm applying this June, and have a question regarding how I calculating and entering your GPA works. At my school, Michigan State University, my grades are a straight 4.0, 3.5, 3.0, 2.5, ... scale. We do *NOT* receive letter grades. Since, at least i've heard, AMCAS wants letter grades, how will that work for me? I mean, I go to a HUGE big ten school... so there's gotta be something said about it. Will my GPA now, say, 3.3 calculated according to the scale I have now be higher/lower after calculating the AMCAS way? HELP! :)
     
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  3. megkudos

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    At my school we get A, B+, B, C+, C, D, and F which translates into AMCAS 4.0, 3.5, 3.0, 2.5, 2.0 ect.

    So in other words my grading system is essentially the same as yours and I can tell you that my GPA stayed the same for AMCAS. So don't fret :)
     
  4. kreno

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    Thanks for the help! But, i'm still confused... can anyone else help? you see, that doesn't make sense Megkudos. How does a B+ translate to a 3.5? A B+ is a 3.3333. Therefore, the tranlation, the way you described it, should have greatly inflated your GPA.

    In any regard, does anyone else know how it will work for my school, Michigan State University, how my 4.0, 3.5, 3.0 scale will translate into AMCAS? From my understanding the AMCAS tranlation is into a letter grade, , IE A, A-, B+, B... which corresponds to 4.0, 3.6667, 3.333, 3.000, etc. Thus, how will MY grades be translated? please help! If you don't know, at least post how the AMCAS method is
     
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    If I remember correctly, AMCAS has the grading scale in place already for many schools. So when you go and enter your school, it is highly likely that they will have the grading system already in for your school. I just do not know how they will convert the grades.
     
  6. mpp

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    If your school gives out decimal grades on a four-point scale, then your total AMCAS GPA should come the same as the school GPA. Only if your school gives out letters grades or some other scale besides on a 4.0 might the AMCAS GPA differ from the school GPA. For standard letter grading AMCAS uses:

    A, A+ = 4.0
    A- = 3.7
    B+ = 3.3
    B = 3.0
    B- = 2.7
    C+ = 2.3

    etc.

    It is always exactly a 0.3 or 0.4 difference. Some schools use more decimal places (i.e., B+ = 3.333) and so the rounding might be different and therefore your school GPA and AMCAS GPA might differ slightly. Other schools have the + designation but no - in which case the grades would be

    A,A+ = 4.0
    B+ = 3.3
    B = 3.0
    C+ = 2.3
    C = 2.0

    etc.

    If you want to see the AMCAS grading schedule for other grading systems, open up an <a href="http://www.aamc.org/amcas" target="_blank">AMCAS application</a> and look in the help section under Coursework, Specific Courses Taken, Grading Systems Conversions Table.
     
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    Kreno,

    How are things in Michiagan?
     
  8. kreno

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    MPP, I wouldn't know how things are in MIchigan right now, I'm currently studying abroad in Greece for the academic year... but thanks for asking :) That's actually why I'm particularly concerned about the primary application, etc, 'cuz i'll be appying from here - it's not that i'm super anal :)

    Anyway, thanks for answering, but you still haven't helped! Look, My school's grades are SIMPLY 4.0, 3.5, 3.0, period. There is NO 3.333 or 3.6667. Just a straight 4.0, 3.5, blah blah. Therefore, HOW would my 3.5 grade in biochemistry, for example, be inputed and understood by my primary application? thanks!
     
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    I think your AMCAS GPA will be exactly the same as the school GPA. If you are graded on a 4.0 scale than the grades transfer directly. Sorry if I was unclear.

    I hope you're having a great time in Greece...I've never been but hope to sometime soon. I asked about Michiagan and not Michigan because that is how it's spelled in your profile. I assume its just a typo...
     
  10. poindexter

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    kreno,

    I was wondering this exact same thing last year, because my school also does numerical grades: 4.0, 3.5, 3.0, etc.

    You will input these grades and AMCAS will keep them listed this way. They automatically know the grading system for your school (if they know my dinky liberal arts school, they gotta know MI State).

    Bottom line--YOUR GPA WILL BE IDENTICAL TO YOUR TRANSCRIPT. Unless of course, you put the information in wrong. It's a good way to double check.

    So anyway, quit worrying about it and enjoy Greece!!!
     
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    Thanks!! Now that makes sense, you see i didn't realize the application would accindate according to my undergrad school.

    Now, to beef up the difficulty... there is more :( You see, my university here in Greece, and American University (american accredited, blah blah) has a normal A, A-, B+, you know 40, 3.6667, 3.3333, etc system. Being that that's the case... any ideas how that will work for me? My grades will NOT be transfering to my home institution (Michigan STate), just the courses... but i'm assuming med schools will look at my grades here the same way as they look at my home grades... and since i'm here an academic year, i'm kinda concerned.. it's not just one or two classes. Thanks!
     
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    This is directly form the AMCAS help file for this year's application

     
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    Here's some more stuff:

     
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    And a bit more:

     
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    Thanks! you rule! Where'd ou get the material anyway? And yep, my school "American College of Thessaloniki" is listed :)
     
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    It's from the HELP function of the AMCAS application.
     

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