PRITE scoring/percentiles

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Hi guys,

Tried to search through these threads but none seem to have the answer. Does anyone know the percentile equivalent to the number of correct answers on the PRITE? I took a practice one and wanted to know where I stand going into the exam.

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um think about what you are asking here. the percentile will be based on how people do on the specific exam you take. i don't know a "practice one" is or why in the hell you took one, but this year's PRITE is completely different to previous years (and residents will almost certainly be expected to perform significantly worse) and thus cannot be meaningfully compared to previous exams.
 
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um think about what you are asking here. the percentile will be based on how people do on the specific exam you take. i don't know a "practice one" is or why in the hell you took one, but this year's PRITE is completely different to previous years (and residents will almost certainly be expected to perform significantly worse) and thus cannot be meaningfully compared to previous exams.
Our program made us take one. :\

I just wanted an estimate of how well I would do without studying (because I don't plan on studying). But didn't want to somehow end up as the bottom 10% of residents across the country, etc.
 
Our program made us take one. :\

I just wanted an estimate of how well I would do without studying (because I don't plan on studying). But didn't want to somehow end up as the bottom 10% of residents across the country, etc.
1 in 10 residents will end up in the bottom 10%.
 
Our program made us take one. :\

I just wanted an estimate of how well I would do without studying (because I don't plan on studying). But didn't want to somehow end up as the bottom 10% of residents across the country, etc.

This likely depends on a lot of things. It's impossible to predict how you would do because no one here knows you. Some people may be able to never study for the thing yet will consistently do well. Others may study a ton and recurrently not do well.

If you're a PGY-1, it's unlikely that the PRITE will matter much at all. If you're worried, you can always ask an upper level resident or even staff at the program directly what the expectation is for you as an intern. I wouldn't stress too much about it, though. As long as you're learning while on your clinically rotations, that's just about the best prep you can get without wasting a ton of time memorizing random minutia.
 
um think about what you are asking here. the percentile will be based on how people do on the specific exam you take. i don't know a "practice one" is or why in the hell you took one, but this year's PRITE is completely different to previous years (and residents will almost certainly be expected to perform significantly worse) and thus cannot be meaningfully compared to previous exams.

How do you have inside knowledge it will be different? Our department is emphasizing the importance of going over previous exams repeatedly.
 
um because I was on the editorial board. your program should know the content has completely changed however as this is common knowledge

BTW this isn't completely true. I "studied" for this by doing one exam only from a few years ago- and granted there were more basic science questions but I think something like 20 questions were still copy/paste.

Anyways, I'm not sure if I'm the only one who thinks the shelf exam was actually more interesting and perhaps more intellectually demanding. We need to get that stuff moving; it doesn't look good for us when the PRITEs look like utter ****e. I'm not sure if it's the case for other specialties with in-residency exams. Maybe it's because they are inconsequential.
 
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Man, PRITE this year was horrible. They should rename the exam biochem, neurology, and psychology -RITE. I don't know what 90% of that exam has anything at all to do with the practice of psychiatry.
I and many in my residency agree.

When First Aid for USMLE Step 1 is a better educational resource for the PRITE then say Kaplan and Saddock you know it's just silly.

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For the record, I did forget my pencil. I will soon forget about the PRITE.

My program provided pencils. Literally bought a highly relevant book at a local bookshop near campus and read the first chapter on the break between sessions, totally by accident. Had a lunch beet. A glorious day.
 
this is all stuff that you are expected to learn or be taught during your residency training.

My program must be doing a horrible job then. I feel like I guessed on at least 50% of the questions.
 
this is all stuff that you are expected to learn or be taught during your residency training.

I would retort with TLP's post on the MOC: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2014/04/the_maintenance_of_certificati.html

I find myself sharing this opinion more. After doing PRITE day 1 this week, I'm reminded of how bizarre of a test it is and how completely not relevant to day-to-day practice a majority of the exam is/was. The main praise I recurrently hear about PRITE - both here and from leadership in our program - is essentially that it predicts success on the board certification exam. Having never taken that exam, I don't know if that's because the content on the PRITE matches that of the exam or if the correlation exists simply because those that do well on tests do well on tests recurrently. If the former, though, I guess the next question would be just how relevant the knowledge on the board certification exam is to day-to-day clinical practice. That is an open question as I don't know.

Mind you, taking the PRITE doesn't matter all that much to me. One way or another I will be busy during our protected didactic time, so whether it's sitting in lectures or taking the PRITE that time is already gone. I spent approximately 0 minutes studying for the PRITE and relied on what I learned (or didn't learn) this past year to take the exam. I am not arguing for or against the idea of an in-service exam in general as I think the idea is, on its face, a good one.

However, if the only saving grace of the PRITE is that it predicts performance on board exams, then I have to wonder - based on the content that I've seen on PRITE x 2 - if the exams actually have any value at all other than as a hoop to be jumped through. I'm confused that of the 150 PRITE questions on day 1, there was one question that I can think of that even tangentially discussed the management of depression (seemingly the bread and butter of psychiatry, though one might make the argument that depression is more appropriately managed in the primary care setting and, thus, not worthy of focus on a psychiatric in-service exam) and one related to the use of benzodiazepines despite how commonly they are prescribed for seemingly anything, the ongoing "epidemic" of inappropriate prescribing, and their fairly limited range of actual indications. I'm not experienced or wise enough to definitively say that X content is not worth learning or testing while Y content is. But I think it's fair to question the validity of an exam that actually tests very little of what I have spent the overwhelming majority of the last 15 months - and will spend the next 9 months - doing clinically. Something doesn't match up here: either the exam is bad or my program and my clinical work aren't teaching me what I'm "supposed" to be learning.
 
My program must be doing a horrible job then. I feel like I guessed on at least 50% of the questions.

I felt the same. I actually felt like my program did a good job of teaching the information covered in the PRITE, especially the numerous child and sleep questions. But then again, my program cares WAY too much about PRITE. And I guess that much derided eight hour didactics day once a week was good for something.

This exam only exists so that residency programs can check off an ACGME requirement, right?
 
I did not get to take the PRITE this year due to having already taken adult boards but I will say the boards did absolutely do a good job testing day-to-day medical knowledge, rather than biochemistry. Sure, some were referencing rare things, but you should absolutely be able to recognize rare disorders with neuropsychiatric manifestations. I would worry less about those basic science questions, they are a very small part of the boards (you can even see the % breakdown of questions on ABPN).
 
I think I know which question splik wrote.
I know of at least two of them.

Some of the other questions easy to guess because formatted with four answers contradicting the political agenda and one (right) answer supporting it.
 
Meh, that wasn't terrible. Lots of stuff I remembered from those silly first aid mnemonics lol.

I also skipped class for all of M1 and M2 years and just sat at home playing video games and memorising first aid.
 
My program provided pencils. Literally bought a highly relevant book at a local bookshop near campus and read the first chapter on the break between sessions, totally by accident. Had a lunch beet. A glorious day.

Wait, this comment was completely passed over and it might be the most important one in this PRITE-related thread. What exactly is a lunch beet? Like literally a cooked beet for lunch? Is this a thing now? I have so many questions!

First time taking PRITE for me, seemed kind of silly to be honest. Felt like lots of psychology and not so much psychiatry, for whatever this intern's opinion is worth. I'm not so much a fan of taking tests successfully in order to predict my future success at taking tests.
 
Wait, this comment was completely passed over and it might be the most important one in this PRITE-related thread. What exactly is a lunch beet? Like literally a cooked beet for lunch? Is this a thing now? I have so many questions!

First time taking PRITE for me, seemed kind of silly to be honest. Felt like lots of psychology and not so much psychiatry, for whatever this intern's opinion is worth. I'm not so much a fan of taking tests successfully in order to predict my future success at taking tests.

I am with you on feeling it was more psychology; my cog neuro background helped me answer far more questions than my psychiatry experiences or reading to date.

I wonder who I know is gullible enough to accept the idea of beets as so something you ingest on special occasions...
 
BTW this isn't completely true. I "studied" for this by doing one exam only from a few years ago- and granted there were more basic science questions but I think something like 20 questions were still copy/paste.

Anyways, I'm not sure if I'm the only one who thinks the shelf exam was actually more interesting and perhaps more intellectually demanding. We need to get that stuff moving; it doesn't look good for us when the PRITEs look like utter ****e. I'm not sure if it's the case for other specialties with in-residency exams. Maybe it's because they are inconsequential.

I know, I'm glad I still used old PRITES to study for those few questions.
 
Having now taken the PRITE, I'm relatively comfortable with the fact that I missed the 20% of the test that was on rote memorization I barely did for first year of medical school. Those questions had close to zero clinical relevance. Would certainly like to be better at detailed neuroanatomy and arcane basic science, but it's not on my priority list ATM.
 
I'm glad I wasn't just imagining how different this year's test was. I had done pretty well on PRITEs up to this point... I have no idea how that one turned out. I felt like half the test I was struggling to remember the genetics class I took 8 years ago.
 
You mean you didn't know the mutations in the ras/mitogen activated protein kinase on 12q24.1 was noonan syndrome? That's essential knowledge for a psychiatrist.
There was literally a 3 week period in my life I knew this.

Despite the PRITE, I tend to keep it that way.

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