thanks for the reasoned reply hyperalgesia.
and stim, im not arguing for extremes. I was worried that there were no limits to those extremes. I agree, moderation is key.
when I read some of arguments against liberalism posted on this board, the gestalt seems that are no perceived limits to the bounds of liberalism. I know that there are, personally, and I am not making any presumptions or arguments for those limits (ie as a liberal, I personally do not support heroin safe havens or medical marijuana or disability, for example). I am just determining if the conservative viewpoint espoused by some on this board have limitations in themselves.