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Thought since we have all finished up the chase for gas spots this year and basically have nothing to do now except graduate med. school, I thought it might be nice to help the next batch of anesth. hopefuls out and start a thread giving our own opinions of different programs that we interviewed at this year.

Before starting, I just want to preface this with ALL OPINIONS ARE JUST THAT, OPINIONS ONLY!!! This is meant to help the newbies find which programs they may want to focus on for next year, not to hype up or pointlessly degrade a program.

Since it's my thread I'll do the honors and start with some of the programs I had thoughts on that I saw:

CLEVELAND CLINIC: Great clinical experience, especially if cards is your thing. Seemed like they worked u pretty hard. Little in the way of teaching. No research. Peds and OB seemed weak, to the point u did rotations in these fields at other hospitals near by.

MEDICAL COLLEGE OF WISC: Great rep. in academic circles. Chairman is a big guy in the academic world. LOTS OF RESEARCH. Not too impressed with their clinical load, one of the attendings said they don't do enough hearts. Nice looking hospital.

BRIGHAM AND WOMANS: Obvious Harvard name. Good clinical exp., lots of OB and Cardiothorasic, and peds. at Boston Childrens. Strength seemed the personality of the dept. For such a "power" program the attendings and esp. the housestaff seem very pleasant and the type of people u would like to work with.

MGH: Again obvious Harvard name. No qualms in saying the program would MAKE a great anesthesiologist out of anyone who went there. They definetly seemed to take pride in grooming future anesthesiologists. Biggest drawback seemed to be the personality of the faculty and dept. starting with the chief. They seemed VERY STUFFY.

Will write more on other programs later.

Hope others join in!!
 
Hey all. This is the part that I found most helpful during my interview season. Since I have nothing to do and am too sick to go outside and enjoy the first sunny day in Boston in months I figured I would do something constructive. So, I wanted to try to gather the responses about programs. Below is the info from varoius posts with their accompanying author. Many are from the thread ?have you heard about.? I figured I would round them up and put them in this new thread. Hope this helps.

Ca. Dreamin said-----------------

BU: Very good attendings. They are an "academic private practice," and from what I know, one of the biggest. I guess what that means is that if you did your residency there, you would be set for a great job in New England. The physical layout, is fine, not the best and not the worst I have seen. Since BU is a major trauma center in Boston and has 2 hospitals, one which serves the poor and one that does more teritary care, then the patient population is very diverse. (Anyone ever seen a case of Amyloid...well, you will at BU) The residents are very nice and very approachable,although there are quite a few FMG's (whether that is good or bad is for you to decide) The chairman was very dynamic. If you want to learn how to do TEE as a resident you can do it here and you can stay on and do a fellowship in less time. Overall a very good place but not the big Harvard rep.

BI: Smaller program, 13-17 residents. My interview day, there were only a few of us so it was very easy to talk to residents and faculty. I think that every resident I talked to was incredibly happy, particularly about the lifestyle they had while at this program. The financial woes of the hospital that were so prevelant 5 years ago, seems to be a thing of the past and the hospital is hiring all sorts of new faculty, especially in surgery, which will make anesthesia more interesting. Physical layout was very good, especially on the West Campus (I think this is the newer one) The new ER is very cool (although this is not particularly relevant.) Peds is done at Childrens. (The best, or at least top 3) Flexible third year schedule. Everyone was great. Maybe this is the "third best Harvard program," but is there really such a thing? Having "Preparation H" on your resume can be a powerful thing and I think the residents have gone on to do whatever they want. Bad news is they got 650 apps and are interviewing 110-130 for 13-17 spots....you do the math.

MGH: Everyone says they just leave you without supervision, but this place goes crazy when it hears that. Even the program director addresses it when he speaks to you. The residents are an interesting mix, but in the time I was there everyone was very nice, very laid back and incredibly helpful. The physical layout is on par with the BI (Both very nice and both easily accessible by public transport,) but it has some area which are nicer. (Particularly the etherdome and the top floors of the hospital which are reserved for the super-elite) I don't think you can argue that this is one of the top programs in the country and that once you graduate you are positioned to do anything you want anywhere you want. Peds is at Childrens, you do one month of OB at MGH and another at the Brigham so you get a different view. Research can be done, but is not forced on you and in fact may be discouraged since there so much to learn as a resident. The surgical Critical care unit is run by Anesthesia and has been for many many years, so there is no one stepping on your toes and you do a required 3 months during your residency (vs 2 in may onther places.) Big program, 25 or so. Overall a great place, maybe you are a bit more independent but not to the point you are putting people in jeopardy..and isin't it better to be independent.

Penn: Much like BI and MGH...but in Philly. And let me tell you, you will either love or hate philly. Their interview day is fantastic with a tour of the city included. The residents are all very cool people from all over the country. Penn is the major referal center for that area of the country and so the pathology is excellent. CHOP is fantastic and is also a top 1/2/3 childrems hospital and that is where you do your peds. The program is somewhat bigger but not overwhelming and the opportunities are great. Lots of research is available and they tell you about it on interview day. They are changing the chairman (not for a bad reason but because he went on to take over the entire penn healthcare system as Chief Medical Officer) but this could add a bit of instability although no one seemed too worried. Physicaly the hospital is ok, as is the location, but the surroundings seem to be getting better. The whole Penn campus is all together and that is convenient and cool. A top 10 program, maybe top 5 but certainly excellent... just stuck in Philly.

UCLA: Well, its in CA so I'm slightly biased, but it is West LA, which is super nice and the weather was 75 degrees in December so there really isin't anyone who could complain about that. The program is bigger, 25 or so and there is a lot to do. The residents said they worked hard, but it is residency after all. UCLA does more liver transplants than anyone else in the country and more pediatric cardiac surgery as well, so that was something interesting. They have Childrens Hospital LA, the Jules Stine Eye Institute and they are a major referral center for all of Southern CA, for every specialty. They are also building a brand new hospital with help from the 100 million that David Geffen donated and it is going to be a pretty fantastic place. The current hospital is very nice but the new one will be incredible. I think it might be weak in Critical care but they are adding additional rotations which everyone seems to be very happy with. 75% of residents stay in Southern CA to practice...so if you want to do Anesthesia in Southern CA (or anywhere is CA for that matter) there is no better place. Haven't seen Stanford yet but beat the pants off UCSF and UCSD in my mind.

Brigham and Womens: It is also an outstanding Boston program, stronger than programs in some area and weaker in others. The hospital is in excellent condition and on par with all of the other Harvard hospitals (MGH, BI). The woman who serves as the program coordinator, Eileen, is probably the nicest woman on the planet. She is fantastic and really goes out of her way to help the interviewees both on the interview day and after. The program is similar to other great programs in the country in that you spend most of 1st year at the Brigham (or home hospital) in the general OR, do specialty stuff second year and spend some time away, and then come back for third year. OB and thoracic are really strong areas. Critical care is probably weaker than the General and about the same as the BI. I think everywhere in Boston is about the same with regards to regional as it is very attending and surgeon dependant, but you get plenty of experice with it at the Brigham. Everyone does 3 months of peds at childrens. Their call schedule is elaborate with a regular call, a late call and a late-late call, there is no point in explaining all of the intricacies, it is essentially the same as call everywhere with some minor tweaks. They just got a new chairman, Dr Vacanti, who is not really new to being a chairman since he was the chair at U Mass for 8 years. Now he's at the Brigham and seems to be a real resident advocate. Right away he took a tour of the resident call rooms and then proceeded to have them renovated. The OR's are in the basement, but I don't think that it really matters. They are nice and the new vascular and amb. surgery "pods" are huge and fantastic. The people and the overall atmosphere are the real selling point. I know it sounds a little hokey, but its true. Everyone is very happy and everyone is treated with a high level of respect. The atmosphere is very colleagial. It is a place where you feel like you are learning as well as working. Certainly you can do whatever you want when you are done. Overall a great place with fantastic residents, a commitment to learning and a strong academic reputation. As an applicant it will be competative though since they had 50 of their 100 or so candidates with AOA.


I found out I am limited by the number of characters and will post the rest of the responses in subsequent replies. Sorry. Hope this helps
 
Here are some things the others had to say:

Beezar said------------
USC: I was very pleasantly surprised with the program. Heard it was in shambles a few years back. Their chair, Dr. Lumb, is by far the most down to earth, respectable chair I've met so far. Lots of positive changes were happening at that program. He is very upfront with the weaknesses in the program and has clear cut plans on changing those weaknesses. Great clinical experience. That being said, I still think the program has some ways to go... something like 68% board passing rate last year. And although the tour guides seem extremely happy with the program, I've heard from other students who did rotations there that most of the residents are in fact unhappy. Don't know what to make of it, considering that their call schedule is extremely light.

UCLA: very very very much like Stanford, except in LA. Maybe not as big a name as Stanford, but that is debatable. A fantastic program, but you work hard.

Harbor-UCLA: Got a bad vibe. Was told that they were not participating in the match by the chair--something I wish they had told me beforehand. And then they send an email months later that they are participating in the match.
Offshore said-------------
UC Davis seemed like a very nice place last year. The chairman is a resident advocate and is brilliant and very approachable. I don't think they take call per se, but instead work 12 hr night shifts instead. The program is heavily dependent on CRNAs to cover the work. I think they have adequate clinical exposure, lots of major blunt trauma from MVAs in the surrounding area. I think they serve a rather large area as the only Level 1 trauma center. I was told transplant is weak though. Another downside is that pain management is co-run by rehab medicine and anethesiology, so if your interested in pain that could be a potential negative. Nice pain clinic facility though. Overall, the residents seemed happy. Some of them said every year overworked residents from Stanford and UCSF try to switch to Davis for the better lifestyle but I don't know if that's true or not.

GasGuy said---------------------
About Stanford...I really liked it very much. I thought that both the residents and attendings were extremely nice and laid back. Actually, the attendings were probably the most laid back that I ran into. I also thought that the program chair and program director seemed very resident-friendly. All the residents I talked to were happy with no significant complaints. They worked hard, but all seemed to enjoy the work, and didn't complain that they were over-worked. To me, compared with UCSF, Stanford seemed friendlier and more relaxed.

I thought that the facilities were fantastic, especially the VA. The simulator also was impressive. I think that their Peds experience is probably the best that I saw. Cardiac is great with a dedicated TEE rotation. Didactics seemed strong, but not overwhelming. They also have some international opportunities with the Interplast program which I thought was pretty cool. I think that overall it is a well balanced program.

For me, the two main drawbacks for the program are Palo Alto and the lack of trauma experience. Palo Alto was beautiful and seemed like a pretty cool town, but small enough that it could feel cramped after three or four years. It didn't sound to me like the residents go to the big city very often. Also, I think it's expensive for what you get although Stanford pays relatively well. The lack of trauma experience was downplayed by the residents and attendings there, and maybe a huge trauma volume isn't necessary for training, but I still consider it a relative weakness.

Overall, I think that it is a fantastic place to train with great academics and nice people in a decent location. Also, the Stanford reputation offers you every opportunity when finished with residency.


Tenesma said-------------------
MGH:
strengths:
1) strong academic center
2) strong surgical center
3) strong research center
4) most of the attendings have written most the stuff in anesthesia and/or invented it
5) excellent relationship between surgery and anesthesia
6) unbelievable ICU - surgical ICU is run by anesthesia
7) great camraderie
8) nice lifestyle in great city (especially if you are single): salary will be about 46-47k by the time you are a CA-1, call is between 3 and 5 times a month (except for SICU where it is q3 except you never take call on fridays)
9) great networking
weakness:
1) expensive city
2) crappy winter weather (watch the weather channel)
I have to say that i have been surprised for the better when I came here - I was really under the impression that i was going to be working hard in a malignant program based on everything i heard from other program directors (who in retrospect were just a bit envious).
Regional anesthesia: you will be an epidural/spinal expert after your OB/Ortho rotations, and during your rotations in same day care you will be doing Bier Blocks, Infra-clavicular, axillary, intra-scalene, ankle, femoral, sciatic, etc.... your exposure won't be top-notch/super-duper, but you will be very competent.

BOTTOM line: go where you think you will be happy - go where your significant other will be happy - go where you think you will fit in (personality wise). You will get a good education at most programs, but your happiness should come first - then the learning becomes more enjoyable... In retrospect for myself (and considering that i have friends at other "top" anesthesia programs), I wouldn't change ONE thing about my choice...


Jubal said----------------
I do notknow much about Davis however a recent poster seemingly spoke highly of them. UCLA is quite a mixed crowd of faculty, all very knowledgeable and willing to teach. Now I think there is a common general drawback with California programs compared to the MIdwest, and that is the "TIME" for teaching. Many California Medical Centers have been loosing money and efficinecy is over-empahsised, so that it may come BEFORE ABSOULTE resident teaching. That doesn't mean htere is no practical teaching or so. Otherwise it's a top program(excelent lectures, dedicated faculty, residency director Dr. Wald is excellent, as well as many faculty. They do research a lot.) and I am considering it number 3 on the west coast after UCSF, UWashington.
Sechen said----------------
wake: friendly residents with approachable faculty, some of them are active in publication and are known in the anesthesia academia. the program has a very strong national reputation. the regional program is also strong, as well as its ob component. the anesthesia and surgery departments get along well. do kidney and pancreas transplants. the town is its major drawback depends on how you look at it. winston-salem is a small city that is self-contained. of course, you cant compare winston-salem with atlanta or other major cities in the southeast.

unc: chapel hill is a very college town, lots of young college students and young intellectuals. the town has more vibrance than winston-salem. i was surprised by the program, they really made an effort to know you. i have never seen a chair and program director showed up during our dinner. i was very touched by their personal touch as well as their effort to get to know you as well as helping you to know the program better. the hopsital is nice and new, with separate women and children's hospitals. the cases are adequate but i dont know about the complexity of the cases. they seem to do more transplant than wake but they have less ob volume. the program has an upcoming reputation. the chair, dr. boysen, had really turned the program around since his arrival many years ago. i didnt hear of any program changes during my interview.

CaliGirlDO said----------------------------------
For those of you who are planning to apply to anesthesia next year and are interested in the west coast programs for more than just the weather/location....here is my take on the CA programs as it applies to DO's (since I have found it very difficult to find objective data about this):

They are basically split into your big name programs and the strong programs. Namely, UCSF, Stanford, and UCLA are "big name" and tend to only interview extremely competitive candidates with the whole package. They are also pretty DO unfriendly, meaning you can try to apply, but they will rank you lower just for being a DO regardless of your scores. I don't know any DO's who got an interview at UCSD. UC Irvine sometimes interviews DO's, I don't know many that have been accepted, unless you are a very strong candidate. Harbor-UCLA is also know to be pretty DO-unfriendly.

In California, the programs that are DO friendly are UC Davis and USC. Both programs were very accepting of me during my rotation and have a history of taking many DO's into their programs. Martin Luther King will consider DO's too, but it appears to be a very weak program with a lot of internal problems. I'd never go there with its reputation.


These are all that I could accumulate. Hope they help.
 
Thought this might be a good one to ressurect since it will be that time of year again soon.

Hopefully others will contribute their thoughts on programs.
 
sbmed100 said:


I will be starting my anesthesia residency in July at Cornell. I interviewed at Cornell, Columbia, and Mount Sinai in NYC. I spent significant time at each -rotations and/or second looks. These were my impressions (keep in mind they are now twelve months old.)

Columbia - best reputation in NYC, long history of anesthesia, largest program in NYC, work somewhat harder than most. Most residents are happy with their education. Good autonomy. Washington Heights is not the best area of Manhattan (above Harlem) and facilities are a bit old, dark and grungy (may be going through renovations now.) Some residents live in the neighborhood, others in NJ and some even Downtown and commute by subway. Pretty much on your own to find living quarters.

Mount Sinai - residents extremely happy, friendly PD, decent area of Manhattan, near Central Park, relatively easier to be set up with housing. Has an anesthesia simulator. Excellent reputation and alumni contacts within NYC region but not a nationally recognized program. Hospital in bad financial shape (after miserable NYU merger attempt) and every department is struggling to find ways to save money.

Cornell - the "whole package" for me...great area of Manhattan, happy residents, good education, friendly PD, nationally recognized (Hospital for Special Surgery, Memorial Sloan, etc.), guaranteed housing, relatively good financial shape and beautiful facilities. Of note, Columbia and Cornell are now merged as 'The New York Presbyterian Hospital' which will only help the both of their hospital rankings and reputations.

I didn't interview at NYU because they were changing chairs at the time, though I hear it is a pretty good program now. St. Luke's is also a pretty good program and has a good local reputation. Don't know much about St. Vincent's. Long Island has an up and coming program at SUNY-Stony Brook with a nationally recognized chairman.

I pretty much interviewed at all the "top 10" programs in addition to the above. My philosophy was to go to a program where I would be happy, that would not close any options later in life, where I would get an excellent education, and where the residents/faculty consisted of people I would want to work with.
 
i think weve heard enoug h from u for today+pissed+
 
Hey apma, since u always have some vitriolic thing or another to say, why don't u tell us a little bit about some of the top 10 nationally recognized programs u interviewed or matched at? Oh wait, I forgot--u only matched at a very average state school program, so you probably have, as usual, nothing meaningful to contribute to the conversation. I think we've all heard enough out of you for a while!! 🙄
 
Originally posted by scoobydum
Hey apma, since u always have some vitriolic thing or another to say, why don't u tell us a little bit about some of the top 10 nationally recognized programs u interviewed or matched at? Oh wait, I forgot--u only matched at a very average state school program, so you probably have, as usual, nothing meaningful to contribute to the conversation. I think we've all heard enough out of you for a while!! 🙄

scoobydum,

why r u hatin on apma? he's not so bad.
 
Ca. Dreamin':

Thanks for helping to revive an important topic, and consolidating these comments previously scattered in a bunch of threads.

I hope this encourages more people to contribute comments about their interview experiences in a meaningful way, as this could really help shape the interview trail for some of us.

I further hope that we have heard the last of people with nothing constructive to add (regardless of where they may have matched). If you are not interested in a topic, you might want to just not read it rather than criticize. Some of us who will be starting 4th year in a matter of days find information like this very valuable.

While it has all been posted before, it's nice to not have to hunt around and have it all in one thread, especially if that encourages others to offer their interview impressions.
 
DOnt be a hater...be a lover..im veryyyyyyy happy where i matched at and by the way i ranked em over columbia and MGH, michigan etc because of family reasons.

Dont be like the surgeons...be a LOVER 😍
 
o,,and by the way "scoobydum"...by registering under a diffrent screen name you cant hide who you are..i know you are one o' the surgery forum posters..its very easy to track your IP address dont forget that!
 
When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you...fool.

As for everyone else, please feel free to contribute your own opinions as to the programs you have visited.
 
here's my 2 cents worth....I interviewed mostly in the midwest as you will see.....just some random thoughts.....probably useless, but here goes.
1. Univ of Chicago--program seemed great, nice residents, nice hospital. Downside....unsafe neighborhood, a few staff seemed sort of high and mighty.
2. Rush--Big bulky hospital, residents seemed kind of miserable, but still spoke well of it. Interviews were a bit harsh.
3. Loyola--liked it a lot, very nice hospital and people....great fitness center!
4. Univ of Missouri--smallest program i've seen...2 or 3 a year. Not my favorite....smallish hospital in a college town.
5. SLU--heard a lot of bad press before interviewing, but did anyway, and was pleasantly surprised. Very nice staff, good group of residents, but kind of a busy ghetto hospital, crappy cafeteria.
6. Univ of Michigan--great program and hospital, ann arbor is nice as well. Got a free t shirt out of the deal. Very large classes (25 I think).
7. UMKC--categorical only, take 6 a year i think. Great location right on the plaza. Very laid back interviews.
8. Hopkins--the hospital speaks for itself, pretty amazing, residents were very nice, really sold it well. Huge class here as well. Interviews were pretty easy going. One attending sat us all down and one by one trashed most of the programs in the country except his "top five" (JH, MGH B&W, UCSF, Mayo) which I thought was very arrogant (since that's a steamin load of BS in my humble opinion, but what do I know)....aside from that little hiccup, very impressed.
9. Univ of Iowa--Huge hospital, very nice..... good size (about 12 a year). great interviews....one involved grabbing a cup of coffee, and walking with the attending around the hospital talking sports.
Downside...college town(nice though), in the middle of nowhere. CA3's do hearts in des moines at a private hospital.

well thats about all.....hope you enjoyed my ranting. whatever you do, don't judge a program by what idiots like me say on these message boards....go check em out an decide for yourself. good luck to all!
 
Same more program review info:

From old man dave:

I appled to very few program in the South/Southwest, but will gladly give you info on what I do know.

Univ of FL - AWESOME program, cool town (esp if your a single person). The Chair & Chair Emeritus are superb! The weakest part of the program, in my opinion, was the structure of the CBY. Prior to my app year, it had been a Dept of Anesth run internship that was heavy in options & critical care. However, due to some financial issues, that was dropped such that 1/2 of their interns did a surg internship & the other half did an IM one. Other than that, I have nothing but accolades for the program.

Vandy - ended up turning down their invitation. I met a couple of Vandy MS-4s on the interview trial. Neither one of them had applied to their own gas program. Both said the program had had problems in years past but was on the mend...but not to the point where they would have chosen to go there. I met these 2 on separate interviews.

Wash U - rejected me outright...nice, polite rejection letter - very similar to the rejection from them when I applied to their medical school. Oh well, no loss of sleep there. St. Louis is a pretty cool place though...very mid-western, sort of a mix of Southern & Northern cultures...be aware though, the food in the mid-west is way bland. Those folks are afraid of spices - they actually think salt & pepper are SPICEY!

Univ of Ark - largely, I applied there to keep the family happy...I grew up in Little Rock, but have not lived in 10 or so years. As I understand it (that means the following is hearsay from multiple sources), the UAMS program had several years of severe problems. They could not keep a stable Chair or Program Dir - and for anyone who ever played sports, you can't have a winning team w/o a solid infrastructure! Allegedly, an immediately past Chair even went to the pokey for embezzlement or something...again, this was something I heard from chatter while I was interviewing there. I have no idea as to the factual basis. Anyhow, they now have a real Chair...had been the interim Chair for a couple of years...& 2 guys are sharing the PD slot. If I correctly recall, one of them was from UFL & the other from Univ of Rochester. However, I found myself very underwhelmed by the newly appointed Chair. I think that this is a diamond in the rough...just a bit too rough to earnestly consider just yet.


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There was no question that I was going to stay in the state of Texas so I interviewed at all of the Texas schools along with UCSF and Stanford (family in Cali).

My opinion of the Texas programs:

1. UT-Southwestern: Obviously I'm partial. I love the program, the PD, the hospitals, and faculty. The PD was the defacto chairman of Galveston while Don Prough was on sabbatical for several years. He was hired two years ago to replace the retiring chair and is very aggressive and is expanding the program in every way possible. Hiring new staff from top programs across the nation to head a variety of initiatives, including Leland Lou to head the pain program (he was supposed to take over at Tech after Raj and Racs retired) and John Sum-Ping from Duke to head the VA and its critical care program. I would refer you to the write-ups on Scutwork for further information on the program with the addendum that Parkland will be replaced in 3-4 years, not 2 years. Dallas is a great city and cheap to live in. Moonlighting is available at Parkland, Baylor, VA, and Scottish Rite hospitals. All fellowships available in one program is also a plus. You leave this program equipped to do anything and yet I still have time to read and raise a family and moonlight.

2. UT-Galveston: Great program. Very laid back residents and faculty. PD is excellent. Good call schedule and moonlighting. John and Rebecca Sealy Hospitals are great hospitals. I didn't like the city. Most residents live 20-30 minutes north in Clear Lake, Pearland, etc. Dodging the occasional hurricane also not appealing to me. When I talked to the residents, they were all very happy with the program, didactics, off time, pay, etc. A couple were not too thrilled about being "farmed out" to other programs to get training in peds, cardio, etc. and a couple mentioned that the case load was getting too light recently. Also not too happy working the prison health system. All in all, I would have picked Galveston in a heartbeat if I hadn't enjoyed my interview and tour of Southwestern and if Galveston wasn't Galveston.

3. Baylor School of Medicine: New PD. Interviewed with her and MANY, MANY other faculty. Six or seven altogether. The most painful interview I had. Half were very nice and inquisitive. Others were stuffy/uptight. Great pay ($40K+ from CA-2 year on). Houston is a happening town. Loved Rice Village. Residents were a good mix. Most were happy with their situation. A couple seemed a little less enthusiastic. Facilities were good and they rotate through Houston Medical Center hospitals. Ben Taub gets gobs and gobs of trauma. I have a couple of friends there and they feel that the case load is a little light (definitely enough time to read). They preach research during the interviews. A recent event put the program in a bit of a spin last year but things have worked themselves out.

4. UT-Houston: See above. Weird having both programs in the same medical center rotating through the same hospitals. Difference is that this program is a little light on the research, case load is heavier, and there are no CRNA's to help out with the case load. Residents cover and relieve each other. Interview wasn't what I needed to learn more about the program. Spent most of it listening to a sales pitch, then interviewed with three staff members. Lunch with residents was about the only informative event of the day. Nice carrying pouch they gave out though. Didn't get to see the OR's during the interview process though I heard that you could if you stayed late. This program had a good reputation before. I'm just not too sure about where it stands now.

5. UT-San Antonio: A hidden gem IMO. I interviewed there for practice but came away very impressed with the program. Great PD. Hospital is primarily University and VA. Audie Murphy VAH looks horrible. Worst I've ever seen. University hospital had a good suite of OR's. The faculty are all solid and they have published a number of good, if not widely circulated texts. San Antonio is a quiet city overall and great for raising a family. Riverwalk and Alamo are very cool. Biggest problem I had with the program is the fact that you had your post call day off (actually that's great) and you did only pre-ops on your post-post-call day off. To me, that was missing too many days of clinical training (2 out of every 4). Good alumni connections especially through the former chair. I liked the program overall and gave it strong consideration.

6. Texas Tech-Lubbock: PD (Alan David Kaye) is very gregarious. Outgoing almost to a fault. In fact, I had to question some of the facts he threw my way (40,000 applications to his program that year, pared down to 400 interviewees). Pain program is tops in the world with Raj & Racs. However, both are retiring/retired and #3 moved to Dallas. You do clinicals at the medical center and at smaller community programs. Another program that has to "farm out" its residents for completing their training - Houston for hearts, San Antonio for critical care, Corpus or Fort Worth for pediatrics. That was the primary draw back for me. Otherwise, I loved Dr. Kaye, the super-nice residents, and pain program. Didn't come away with a good impression of Lubbock. Landed at the airport and first thing I see when I drive out to the highway was a gigantic junkyard. Also pounded by a sleet storm and took 2 hours to get to my hotel. I was told, however, that you can live like a king with your salary in Lubbock and that the city was rated as one of the better ones to raise a family. Lots of good looking blondes according to one of my fellow interviewees (a med student from Tech).

7. Scott & White - A small program. Very cool faculty but very light on the case load and very country environment. Austin is 40-50 minutes south. Little to no research. Housing is super cheap. I liked the people there but knew that I wasn't going to list them after I saw how small the program was. If I HAD to go there, however, I would not be unhappy. I would definitely do a fellowship afterwards though.

8. Texas Tech-El Paso - Avoid IMO. I believe 4 residents per class and mostly FMG's. Have heard that teaching is near nil and little variety in cases. Primarily light trauma and general. I didn't interview there but this appears to be a consensus.
 
Originally posted by UTSouthwestern

4. UT-Houston: See above. Weird having both programs in the same medical center rotating through the same hospitals. Difference is that this program is a little light on the research, case load is heavier, and there are no CRNA's to help out with the case load. Residents cover and relieve each other. Interview wasn't what I needed to learn more about the program. Spent most of it listening to a sales pitch, then interviewed with three staff members. Lunch with residents was about the only informative event of the day. Nice carrying pouch they gave out though. Didn't get to see the OR's during the interview process though I heard that you could if you stayed late. This program had a good reputation before. I'm just not too sure about where it stands now.

One correction from someone who attends in the Texas Medical Center. UT-Houston and Baylor do not rotate at the same hospitals except they both rotate at MD Anderson. Baylor's hospitals are Ben Taub, VA, and TCH. UT-Houston is Hermann (Hermann Childrens located inside Hermann), and LBJ. Yes they are both in the medical center but Houston is a big place.
 
Did anyone apply to programs in DC-Baltimore, Jacksonville, San Diego or Seattle or anywhere else where there is a Naval base?

I'm trying to end up with my SO for residency and he is in the navy... apparantly, you have to be on a coast rather than in the friendly midwest to stay in the navy, so I am trying to get myself to a coast. just need some ideas of where to look and would appreciate any feedback on programs/interviewing/planning fourth year schedule. I am ultimately interested in critical care.

Thanks
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Cornell - overall a nice program. Cheap housing in the big city. Residents seem happy. Most calls are taken from home so you must stay near the hospital. One resident lived with his wife on the upper west side but used his cornell apartment when he was on call. That sounds strange. If you go home before midnight on call, you come back for a full day the next day. Didactics seem impressive as well as research. Lots of regional.

B&W - super nice people. residency director was spaced out when I interviewed there. He was the only one who clearly had not even glanced at my application beforehand. Chairman is first class. Didactics great. Good cardiac cases, no trauma. Residents were very very friendly.

MGH - stuffy. Pretty much everyone made a low blow regarding B&W. Nobody at the Brigham made any remarks about the MGH. Can you say "inferiority complex" boys and girls? Good regional in the outpatient center.

Hopkins - I thought the facilities were crappy for a world reknown institution. Elevator takes 10 hours. One resident during lunch told me he wouldn't come there again - he was a west coast guy though. The other residents spent the rest of lunch covering up for him. They all talked about how hard they worked - no time to study when they get home. They emphasized that it was worth it for the name though. Not.

Emory - Did a month rotation here. Residents happy. Chairman and program director are first class and easy to talk to. At Grady, you are out of the OR by 3pm. At Emory, you are out by 4-5. Train at a total of 4 different hospitals - all under the Emory umbrella. Lots of cardiac and trauma. Surgeons nice. Good weather. Cheap city to live in. Pain department seems weak as far as fellow recruitment, but I saw residents doing fluoro. Not much regional. Good OB. 5 calls a month.
 
I would like to say thank you to everybody that has contributed to this thread. I am about to go into my 3rd year and I am really struggling trying to figure out where I should do my elective rotations. I am a 3rd year DO student, so I am also trying to find programs that have been known for accepting DOs. I greatly appreciate all of the info that I have got here and I was hoping that since the match is done, if any more 4th years would comment on the places that they either interviewed at or rotated at.
Once again, congradulations to all of those who have matched and for those that did not I hope you are all keeping in good spirits and I wish you all the best of luck. Don't give up on what you really want to do!
 
You should check Scutwork, as there are many new reviews there. If you have any ?s you can always PM me.

Good luck.
 
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