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[wordcel]

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I'm looking for the LSAT 1976 PT1 and the pre-1977 MAT for historical and research related reasons regarding psychometrics. any help ,ie. someone who has/knows about them, knows where to point me to would be greatly appreciated.

 

[PsyDr]

1) Here's some writing help. The proper way to phrase this might be, "help me find an old version of the LSAT, from the year the copyright has expired, so I can do well on the test".

2) Out of every profession you could have chosen to ask for this help, why did you choose psychologists? Did you not know about our ethical requirements of test security? Did you just not respect us in general?

 

[R. Matey]

Sounds like a job for a good 'ole fashioned literature review

 

[wordcel]

1) Here's some writing help. The proper way to phrase this might be, "help me find an old version of the LSAT, from the year the copyright has expired, so I can do well on the test".

2) Out of every profession you could have chosen to ask for this help, why did you choose psychologists? Did you not know about our ethical requirements of test security? Did you just not respect us in general?

Im sorry, i didnt know you can read minds sir. That has the 'psych' prefix usually as well, but it's not psychology.
That said ,why would i want to take an old ,disregarded , structurally completely dissimilar to modern-test, to 'score well' on it? If the copyright has expired and is non existent ,why, pray tell, do you bring up ethical concerns? Or is this your routine? For the sake of it i guess.
Please review your comment, and a general check yourself up for stress would be a good idea, and next time dont be so pressumptuous and condescending..it only drives for more of that. No reason for you to be one of those,no reason to reply to my post with such bias. Iam a test proctor myself, so tone it down,will ya? Do you have no..what did you call it..respect?
tl;dr , you are talking out of your behind and making nonsensical assumptions out of thin air. Thanks mr Psych-ologist,very helpfull of you,ill visit again.

 

[PsyDr]

Im sorry, i didnt know you can read minds sir. That has the 'psych' prefix usually as well, but it's not psychology.
That said ,why would i want to take an old ,disregarded , structurally completely dissimilar to modern-test, to 'score well' on it? If the copyright has expired and is non existent ,why, pray tell, do you bring up ethical concerns? Or is this your routine? For the sake of it i guess.
Please review your comment, and a general check yourself up for stress would be a good idea, and next time dont be so pressumptuous and condescending..it only drives for more of that. No reason for you to be one of those,no reason to reply to my post with such bias. Iam a test proctor myself, so tone it down,will ya? Do you have no..what did you call it..respect?
tl;dr , you are talking out of your behind and making nonsensical assumptions out of thin air. Thanks mr Psych-ologist,very helpfull of you,I’ll visit again.

1) You accuse others of talking out of their behinds, call other names, and call others condescending. Then you say people shouldn’t do that. Which is it? Are you wrong or a hypocrite?

2) Weird that a test proctor is trying to conduct psychometric research. Even weirder that a Psychometrician uses non professional syntax, spelling, and grammar.

 

[BuckeyeLove]

I was bored the other day. Typed in a prompt into chatgpt about my dissertation. Within seconds a lit review was produced that was more extensive (albeit not as brilliantly written) than my own that took a year to complete. I say this to say... why are you asking this here? you've got better options now hahah.

 

[quickpsych]

People using AI to come onto forums to data farm is getting out of hand. 🤣

Pretty obvious the initial title and post was made, albeit poorly, with some AI prompt.

If this individual was actually a test proctor they would understand even the basics of test security, and also how to find information on older formats. Please don't feed the trolls, or in this case, the data farming.

 

[wordcel]

1) You accuse others of talking out of their behinds, call other names, and call others condescending. Then you say people shouldn’t do that. Which is it? Are you wrong or a hypocrite?

2) Weird that a test proctor is trying to conduct psychometric research. Even weirder that a Psychometrician uses non professional syntax, spelling, and grammar.

'Weird that a test proctor is trying to conduct psychometric research.'

How so? I can do other stuff with my time besides giving tests,can i not now? You keep bringing up irrelevant questions posing them as kind of 'gotcha' statements, the other one being that i write informally to someone who equally addresses me informally but hides behind a veneer of credentials..so what did you say about hypocrisy?

This is public fora.. i dont see the relevance or need for formalities on bad faith actors who don't attempt to address the question but try to look down on it..in other words, if you are unaware, you didn't approach me as a useful colleague, you tried to berate me, and you continue to try to throw accusations at me, passive aggressively, which is quite funny.

I observed your bad behaviour, that you acted in a certain bad mannered -bad tempered/sulky way and told you how that's bad practice.. that's not irony sir, that's called defense and transparency
Even if i went 'an eye for an eye', so to speak, im well within my defensive rights. So ,no, your hypocrisy accusation fails as well. Grasping at straws..

Im sure you can find better things to do. Please stop replying to the thread with nonsense , you are being polemic not helpful..and yeah, im asking for help, there is no hypocrisy, try as you might....

 

[PsyDr]

'Weird that a test proctor is trying to conduct psychometric research.'
How do? Just because i proctor test doesn't mean i dont do other stuff with my time.

What is non professional grammar and syntax? Neologisms like 'lol'? We are in public fora, why would i be formal, especially to someone with an accusatory tone and attitude

Let’s look below: The title, the run on sentences below, the sentences below that have multiple subjects and predicates, the logic that is recursive, giving yourself the ability to do things but not others, etc.

If others thought your post was an AI prompt, then maybe your syntax isn’t so great.

Im sorry, i didnt know you can read minds sir. That has the 'psych' prefix usually as well, but it's not psychology.
That said ,why would i want to take an old ,disregarded , structurally completely dissimilar to modern-test, to 'score well' on it? If the copyright has expired and is non existent ,why, pray tell, do you bring up ethical concerns? Or is this your routine? For the sake of it i guess.
Please review your comment, and a general check yourself up for stress would be a good idea, and next time dont be so pressumptuous and condescending..it only drives for more of that. No reason for you to be one of those,no reason to reply to my post with such bias. Iam a test proctor myself, so tone it down,will ya? Do you have no..what did you call it..respect?
tl;dr , you are talking out of your behind and making nonsensical assumptions out of thin air. Thanks mr Psych-ologist,very helpfull of you,ill visit again.

'Weird that a test proctor is trying to conduct psychometric research.'

How so? I can do other stuff with my time besides giving tests,can i not now? You keep bringing up irrelevant questions posing them as kind of 'gotcha' statements, the other one being that i write informally to someone who equally addresses me informally but hides behind a veneer of credentials..so what did you say about hypocrisy?

This is public fora.. i dont see the relevance or need for formalities on bad faith actors who don't attempt to address the question but try to look down on it..in other words, if you are unaware, you didn't approach me as a useful colleague, you tried to berate me, and you continue to try to throw accusations at me, passive aggressively, which is quite funny.

I observed your bad behaviour, that you acted in a certain bad mannered -bad tempered/sulky way and told you how that's bad practice.. that's not irony sir, that's called defense and transparency
Even if i went 'an eye for an eye', so to speak, im well within my defensive rights. So ,no, your hypocrisy accusation fails as well. Grasping at straws..

Im sure you can find better things to do. Please stop replying to the thread with nonsense , you are being polemic not helpful..and yeah, im asking for help, there is no hypocrisy, try as you might....

No thanks.

 

[wordcel]

People using AI to come onto forums to data farm is getting out of hand. 🤣

Pretty obvious the initial title and post was made, albeit poorly, with some AI prompt.

If this individual was actually a test proctor they would understand even the basics of test security, and also how to find information on older formats. Please don't feed the trolls, or in this case, the data farming.

Yet another 'smartass', bad faith actor, quite funny all with the psychology tag. 'quite obviously '...not. you are presumptuous like your colleague above..
No, these tests are not easy to find, they are held , rather gatekeepeted, by a small team of people that refuses to give them away , and they dont exist elsewhere on the world wide web. Period. You are the ignorant one here. If not, please , by all means, prove me wrong and give me pointers.. I'll be very happy if things are as easy as reflected in your words.
'Test security' is irrelevant on century year old tests ...
That's a hell of a mindset you have there. Lol.

 

[PsyDr]

Yet another bad faith actor, quite funny all with the psychology tag. 'quite obviously '...not. you are presumptuous like your colleague above..
No, these tests are not easy to find, they are held , rather gatekeepeted, by a small team of people that refuses to give them away , and they dont exist elsewhere on the world wide web. Period. You are the ignorant one here. If not, please , by all means, prove me wrong and give me pointers.. I'll be very happy if things are as easy as reflected in your words.
'Test security' is irrelevant on century year old tests ...
That's a hell of a mindset you have there. Lol.

Professional ethics says pretty much the opposite of your position.

 

[wordcel]

Nothing written there about you being a charlatan or otherwise as far as i know.

 

[wordcel]

Let’s look below: The title, the run on sentences below, the sentences below that have multiple subjects and predicates, the logic that is recursive, giving yourself the ability to do things but not others, etc.

If others thought your post was an AI prompt, then maybe your syntax isn’t so great.





No thanks.

If that was professional contact by you, then your reply makes sense..of course you have nothing better to do, your patients (assuming you have any) are better off without you..yeah, throw me the ethics book while claiming to act professionally yet you act like a class one.

 

[WisNeuro]

What a surreal exchange. AI truly has ruined electronic communication.

 

[wordcel]

What a surreal exchange. AI truly has ruined electronic communication.

Sorry, have we talked before?

PS. What's up with psychs and extensive moralising? you guys out of all people should know better...

 

[WisNeuro]

Sorry, have we talked before?

PS. What's up with psychs and extensive moralising? you guys out of all people should know better...

Not to my knowledge. As to the latter, we're just more aggressive on this side of the pond.

 

[wordcel]

Not to my knowledge. As to the latter, we're just more aggressive on this side of the pond.

More aggressive,meaning you are quite aggressive otherwise..and are you talking on behalf of all your fellow colleagues? Yes,i agree..this has been quite surreal, seeing supposed healers acting with a mighty moralistic attitude,not flitching one bit at throwing pressumptive bites at you for no reason whatsoever. Thank you.

 

[psy.d. 2021]

What country do you practise in?

 

[Sanman]

More aggressive,meaning you are quite aggressive otherwise..and are you talking on behalf of all your fellow colleagues? Yes,i agree..this has been quite surreal, seeing supposed healers acting with a mighty moralistic attitude,not flitching one bit at throwing pressumptive bites at you for no reason whatsoever. Thank you.

Who said everyone here was a 'healer'? There are researchers, teachers, forensic experts and many other things here.

There seems to be this assumption that all of us have a moral requirement to provide everyone with free help.

 

[psy.d. 2021]

Who said everyone here was a 'healer'? There are researchers, teachers, forensic experts and many other things here.

There seems to be this assumption that all of us have a moral requirement to provide everyone with free help.

You're wrong, this AI bot is all of our collective client and must be healed

 

[PsyDr]

Not to my knowledge. As to the latter, we're just more aggressive on this side of the pond.

My guess is a student in India, who keeps student hours. The language is too far to be a commonwealth country, and the term “class one” is pure India. Since psychologists licensed by the RCI have to adhere to an ethical code based upon the APAs, I’m hard pressed to believe OPs profile label as being a psychologist.

Alternatively, maybe PNG or Indonesia, but not the nice parts.

 

[wordcel]

Who said everyone here was a 'healer'? There are researchers, teachers, forensic experts and many other things here.

There seems to be this assumption that all of us have a moral requirement to provide everyone with free help.

Lmao. funny how you took it to heart when i was speaking with people who had the 'spychologist' tag and were being moralising ,throwing ethics at me and what not. 'All of us..free help'.. then you are the guy you are speaking of? I made a request about specific (old) test material..no counseling. I guess you didnt pass through that reading comprehension section that other,real scientists have to go throught.

 

[wordcel]

My guess is a student in India, who keeps student hours. The language is too far to be a commonwealth country, and the term “class one” is pure India. Since psychologists licensed by the RCI have to adhere to an ethical code based upon the APAs, I’m hard pressed to believe OPs profile label as being a psychologist.

Alternatively, maybe PNG or Indonesia, but not the nice parts.

Out of all the people here, you might be the dumbest one yet. You are hilarious,in the way trump is...your 'psychoanalysis' has failed,im not part of these regions (are you? you seem to know quite a bit...). Class one A-hole,similar to 'grade/class [insert insult here]'..smh cant parse an analogy. truly,you have all the class.
Assuming im not from the 'mericas, then talking about the APA is a blunder you have to try really hard to make..

PS.your broken English betray you. 'the language is too far' is not a meaningful statement or sentence,or whatever it was meant to be..similarly 'my guess is a student in india' should have been 'my guess is that they are a student in india'.. quite baffled you picked those countries,so again,are you from those places?

 

[psy.d. 2021]

Ok mods time to ban / wrap this up not really interesting anymore

 

[WisNeuro]

Who said everyone here was a 'healer'? There are researchers, teachers, forensic experts and many other things here.

There seems to be this assumption that all of us have a moral requirement to provide everyone with free help.

I'm mostly a forensic expert, it's literally my job to proffer strong opinions. I'm just being consistent.

 

[Sanman]

Lmao. funny how you took it to heart when i was speaking with people who had the 'spychologist' tag and were being moralising ,throwing ethics at me and what not. 'All of us..free help'.. then you are the guy you are speaking of? I made a request about specific (old) test material..no counseling. I guess you didnt pass through that reading comprehension section that other,real scientists have to go throught.

1. You never specified who you were talking to and ,as this is an open forum, it would suggest that you were speaking to everyone

2. People that went through the process of verification to get a tag are not the only psychologists here

3. Learn to proofread when you are verbally attacking people. Misspelling the word psychologist makes you look silly and certainly makes it difficult to take you seriously. Though being a Spychologist might be fun, I guess.

4. Please show where the word 'help' equates to counseling. You made a request for something. In this case that is a specific LSAT exam. This would still fall under the purview of help.

5. Personal attacks are not allowed per the TOS here.

 

[PsyDr]

Out of all the people here, you might be the dumbest one yet. You are hilarious,in the way trump is...your 'psychoanalysis' has failed,im not part of these regions (are you? you seem to know quite a bit...). Class one A-hole,similar to 'grade/class [insert insult here]'..smh cant parse an analogy. truly,you have all the class.
Assuming im not from the 'mericas, then talking about the APA is a blunder you have to try really hard to make..

PS.your broken English betray you. 'the language is too far' is not a meaningful statement or sentence,or whatever it was meant to be..similarly 'my guess is a student in india' should have been 'my guess is that they are a student in india'.. quite baffled you picked those countries,so again,are you from those places?

Thanks. That’s all I needed.

 

[wordcel]

I'm mostly a forensic expert, it's literally my job to proffer strong opinions. I'm just being consistent.

Strong opinions about what? Astrophysics?

......

I guess those are technically, 'dead' tests, so be qualified if you will. 😉

 

[wordcel]

1. You never specified who you were talking to and ,as this is an open forum, it would suggest that you were speaking to everyone

2. People that went through the process of verification to get a tag are not the only psychologists here

3. Learn to proofread when you are verbally attacking people. Misspelling the word psychologist makes you look silly and certainly makes it difficult to take you seriously. Though being a Spychologist might be fun, I guess.

4. Please show where the word 'help' equates to counseling. You made a request for something. In this case that is a specific LSAT exam. This would still fall under the purview of help.

5. Personal attacks are not allowed per the TOS here.

I replied to a specific person, so yeah i very much specified, your issue.
Second is a non sequitur as i never said or implied anything of the short..quite the other way around..
Learn how to argue.. correcting typos like a pendant is pitiful and doesn't work.. if anything, you being the one who looks silly, and being betrayed by conceptual immaturity here...
Exactly, to my point, where did i ask of help with any kind of psychological intervention? You said , in this specific post where i ask about legacy tests, that an imaginary public has some imagined idea about being privy to free help by people like you. What i didn't do is demand of that help, or made any kind of demands really, instead i made an open post and you came here butting , head first. You can do that ,but dont cry about imaginative requests that haven't been made.
If personal attacks are not allowed then dont engage in them, nor accuse others of doing so when it doesn't happen..the fact that you hide you attacks in catty, passive aggressive behaviour doesn't make them any better ...

 

[Sanman]

I replied to a specific person, so yeah i very much specified, your issue.
Second is a non sequitur as i never said or implied anything of the short..quite the other way around..
Learn how to argue.. correcting typos like a pendant is pitiful and doesn't work.. if anything, you being the one who looks silly, and being betrayed by conceptual immaturity here...
Exactly, to my point, where did i ask of help with any kind of psychological intervention? You said , in this specific post where i ask about legacy tests, that an imaginary public has some imagined idea about being privy to free help by people like you. What i didn't do is demand of that help, or made any kind of demands really, instead i made an open post and you came here butting , head first. You can do that ,but dont cry about imaginative requests that haven't been made.
If personal attacks are not allowed then dont engage in them, nor accuse others of doing so when it doesn't happen..the fact that you hide you attacks in catty, passive aggressive behaviour doesn't make them any better ...

Not to be overly pedantic, but you spelled pedant wrong.

Unless you meant I am just a jewel of a person. Then I am inclined to agree.

Between the misspellings, improper grammar, and the lack of formatting it is difficult to understand any argument you happen to be making.

 

[wordcel]

Thanks. That’s all I needed

Not to be overly pedantic, but you spelled pedant wrong.

Unless you meant I am just a jewel of a person. Then I am inclined to agree.

Between the misspellings, improper grammar, and the lack of formatting it is difficult to understand any argument you happen to be making.

Xd. Nice way to be evasive, you truly are a gem... except, that lack of understanding only shows bad on you . No amount of attempts to attack my typing makes you any more coherent...what was your point again?

 

[AcronymAllergy]

Mod Note: This thread was tangentially related to psychology to begin with, and is now no longer serving a constructive purpose.