Psychiatry Needs to be Stopped

[JMBBB]

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Psychiatry is a new religion. Here's why:

First of all, psychiatry has absolutely no objectivity. "Mental illnesses" are based on subjective assessments, and most of these "illnesses" describe behaviors that do not conform to societal norms. Just because someone is unusual does not mean he is ill. It just means that he's abnormal, and there's nothing wrong with it.

Second of all, psychiatry has the power to lock people up even if they haven't committed a crime. I was in a mental institution, and the doctor there told us that we were imprisoned because we disagreed with majority opinion. We were made to play games and draw with crayons as though we were in kindergarten. They thought I was delusional because I told them I wrote a book. They demanded to see my book, and when I showed it to them, the doctor read it in a public area where people could easily steal the idea. I asked him not to do this, and he condescendingly asked me, "Who? Who is going to steal it?"

In the past, priests claimed that people were possessed by the devil. Nowadays, psychiatrists claim that people have mental illnesses.

As far as I'm concerned, psychiatrists have committed crimes against humanity and should be imprisoned. I'm writing this to let people know what psychiatry looks like from the prisoner's perspective.

 

[Rivi]

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Don't feed the troll ladies and gentlemen.

 

[cara susanna]

Somebody's been reading too much Thomas Szasz

 

[CheetahGirl]

Psychiatry is a new religion. Here's why:

First of all, psychiatry has absolutely no objectivity. "Mental illnesses" are based on subjective assessments, and most of these "illnesses" describe behaviors that do not conform to societal norms. Just because someone is unusual does not mean he is ill. It just means that he's abnormal, and there's nothing wrong with it.

Second of all, psychiatry has the power to lock people up even if they haven't committed a crime. I was in a mental institution, and the doctor there told us that we were imprisoned because we disagreed with majority opinion. We were made to play games and draw with crayons as though we were in kindergarten. They thought I was delusional because I told them I wrote a book. They demanded to see my book, and when I showed it to them, the doctor read it in a public area where people could easily steal the idea. I asked him not to do this, and he condescendingly asked me, "Who? Who is going to steal it?"

In the past, priests claimed that people were possessed by the devil. Nowadays, psychiatrists claim that people have mental illnesses.

As far as I'm concerned, psychiatrists have committed crimes against humanity and should be imprisoned. I'm writing this to let people know what psychiatry looks like from the prisoner's perspective.

Hello there,

Unfortunately, rejecting psychiatry is an arbitrary suggestion...like rejecting dentistry - it is field of study that is alive & well and attempts to 'objectify' itself more and more through empiricial evidence (which can also be viewed as 'subjective' in some cases).

This forum may not be the ideal place to vent your frustrations about psychiatry, mainly because it is a clinical psychology PhD/PsyD forum. For psychiatry, try the MD forum. More importantly, moderators may close this thread because it may not meet SDN guidelines about self-disclosure and eliciting conversations aimed at the said disclosures.

If and before the thread is closed, it sounds like you've had a difficult experience based on your posting. It may be in your best interest to find someone close-by that you can discuss those experiences with in detail. Sadly, psychiatry doesn't always allow for the discussion component. So give other professionals within the fields of mental health (like clinical psychology or social work) a try, and you may find your opinion of 'mental health' to broaden outside the realm of just 'mental illness."

Take care!

 

[Iwillheal]

Just wanted to say that was a great and kind reply by CheetahGirl, and I second the recommendations.

 

[ClinicalABA]

Somebody's been reading too much Thomas Szasz

Or L. Ron Hubbard

 

[cara susanna]

Nah, the OP didn't mention thetans or auditing at all. 😉

 

[DynamicDidactic]

Somebody's been reading too much Thomas Szasz

I cannot believe it is a coincidence
http://mindhacks.com/2012/09/11/thomas-szasz-has-left-the-building/

 

[Iwillheal]

He died? How come the major news sources are not reporting this? Sad day.

 

[JMBBB]

You people sicken me. I was just trying to start a discussion and you automatically regard me as a troll. You may be medical students in your twenties, but you're all a bunch of babies to me. Rest assured, my hatred towards psychiatry has been amplified. You're exactly like all the psychiatrists I've met -- you hate everything that's different and you laugh at nonconformity.

And no, I'm not associated with Scientology. And yes, I am saddened by the passing of Thomas Szasz. He did more for science than hundreds of psychiatrists ever could.

 

[wigflip]

You people sicken me. I was just trying to start a discussion and you automatically regard me as a troll. You may be medical students in your twenties, but you're all a bunch of babies to me. Rest assured, my hatred towards psychiatry has been amplified. You're exactly like all the psychiatrists I've met -- you hate everything that's different and you laugh at nonconformity.

And no, I'm not associated with Scientology. And yes, I am saddened by the passing of Thomas Szasz. He did more for science than hundreds of psychiatrists ever could.

I think you're lambasting the wrong "bunch of babies." if you're hoping to "start a discussion" with psychiatry students, perhaps visit the psychiatry forum instead of the psychology forum...?

 

[roubs]

You people sicken me. I was just trying to start a discussion and you automatically regard me as a troll. You may be medical students in your twenties, but you're all a bunch of babies to me. Rest assured, my hatred towards psychiatry has been amplified. You're exactly like all the psychiatrists I've met -- you hate everything that's different and you laugh at nonconformity.

And no, I'm not associated with Scientology. And yes, I am saddened by the passing of Thomas Szasz. He did more for science than hundreds of psychiatrists ever could.

Not a medical student, not in my 20s, still think your post is full of hyperbolic nonsense. I don't hate your argument or differing opinions; I look at them with a critical eye... and when I do that they look like garbage.

 

[twistedjengki]

I think you better discuss that with a psychiatrist...just a thought.

 

[JMBBB]

Psychiatry, psychology, both the same **** to me. Frankly, I think your attitude is garbage to me, roubs.

I've heard of psychology PhDs claiming that there is no objectivity to the study of psychology. Psychologists say that people are delusional just because they contradict what's printed in newspapers. That's like saying everything in the news is truthful.

I'm trying to get psychology students to think carefully about what they're studying. I have got to say from my experience that psychiatrists are the stupidest people on Earth. They assume that majority opinion is always correct, that the government is always good. When I nitpick their arguments, they told me to shut up, but when they nitpick my arguments, they think they're right.

I ****ing hate psychiatry.

 

[Iwillheal]

JMBBB, you've got a bunch of psychology students (not psychiatry students and surely not psychiatrist) here and some are who are being hostile to you are reacting to the tone of your posts, which is partly why this can't be a good debate at this point. I don't doubt that you have been hurt by the actions of some psychiatrists, and I don't doubt that there are some psychiatrists who deserve to face justice for the horrible crimes they have committed throughout the history. But to assume that about all psychiatrists is simply untrue and unfair. My recommendation for you to speak to a mental health provider, comes from a place of compassion, not belittling your hurt. This place is strictly for academic discussions related to psychology (mostly graduate school and psychotherapy) There are patient rights groups and other forums where you can get more helpful replies. Best of luck to you.

 

[wigflip]

I'm trying to get psychology students to think carefully about what they're studying. I have got to say from my experience that psychiatrists are the stupidest people on Earth.

Well, your nuanced critique sounds likely to inspire careful thinking.

Now perhaps:

:troll:

 

[cara susanna]

You think psychiatrists/psychologists assume that the government is always good? Have you read the political discussions here?

 

[erg923]

Geez, what a freaking drama queen.

Tom, Tom...tell us what really happened with Katie!

I wish she had married the Beek for real. I was always rooting for them...

 

[CheetahGirl]

Psychiatry, psychology, both the same **** to me.

This is why this discussion cannot go further on this forum. Your point, my virtual friend, is a non-sequitur.

JMBBB, you've got a bunch of psychology students (not psychiatry students and surely not psychiatrist) here and some are who are being hostile to you are reacting to the tone of your posts, which is partly why this can't be a good debate at this point. I don't doubt that you have been hurt by the actions of some psychiatrists, and I don't doubt that there are some psychiatrists who deserve to face justice for the horrible crimes they have committed throughout the history. But to assume that about all psychiatrists is simply untrue and unfair. My recommendation for you to speak to a mental health provider, comes from a place of compassion, not belittling your hurt. This place is strictly for academic discussions related to psychology (mostly graduate school and psychotherapy) There are patient rights groups and other forums where you can get more helpful replies. Best of luck to you.

Thoughtful reply, and the best one yet. 😉

Now perhaps:

:troll:

Not that the OP is trolling...but, come on, let's all use some non-hostile judgement here before engaging futher...

Just close this crap mods.

The appearance of intellectual sloppiness is never a away to open a debate, son.

I concur.

 

[AcronymAllergy]

Mod Note: As this thread no longer appears to be of an appropriately professional nature and topic, it is being closed.