PsyD and job security

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i was considering going to med school then eventually pursuing psychiatry, or neurology, but im a psychology major right now, and i kind of like it,now im interested in perhaps pursuing a PsyD...id like to be have my own private practice...but in the end...would i make enough money to make all that time in school worth it? i hate to boil it down to dollars and cents...but i cant see pushing myself through that many years of school when my salary prospects might be bleak....what are the facts and figures here?

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jwtaylor said:
i was considering going to med school then eventually pursuing psychiatry, or neurology, but im a psychology major right now, and i kind of like it,now im interested in perhaps pursuing a PsyD...id like to be have my own private practice...but in the end...would i make enough money to make all that time in school worth it? i hate to boil it down to dollars and cents...but i cant see pushing myself through that many years of school when my salary prospects might be bleak....what are the facts and figures here?

Read posts by sasevan and PublicHealth:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=155969&page=3

Having a PsyD instead of a PhD will make it even harder for you to survive in today's world of (mis)managed care and mid-level practitioners.

GO TO MEDICAL SCHOOL.
 
Personally, I would choose a funded PhD/ PsyD program or go to med school with your goals. It isn't worth it to invest all that money in a private psy.d school and get substanially less money than a psychiatrist.
 
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PublicHealth said:
Having a PsyD instead of a PhD will make it even harder for you to survive in today's world of (mis)managed care and mid-level practitioners.

That's just not true, sorry.
 
perhaps defining exactly what it is you want to do would help you in your decision. going to medical school offers you the option to do a dual neurology/psych residency if you choose, but the downside to all of this is a lot of time and MD=Massive Debt. But as psychiatrist, paying back the loan won't be as difficult.

If you are hell bent on psychology then a funded PsyD or PhD would be a good option. Try shadowing a psychiatrist, a PsyD and a PhD or interviewing them and see what they like and dislike about their lifestyle and their education.

Getting some research experience will help in either pursuit, so choose a topic you like and go for it.

Dollars and cents should not be your primary motivation. You will be dealing with people and their personal problems as a career, not hardware vs. software specialist. Make an informed choice for the sake of your future patients.

-S
 
Personally, I would rather attend graduate school and become a PsyD/PhD who can competently and comprehensively assess, evaluate, diagnose, psychotherapy, RxP, research, etc. but make less money then a psychiatrists (currently) then go to med school and become a psychiatrist after 8 long yrs. Post BA/BS and eventually become a practitioner whose primary role is a medication manager.

Money is becoming a major discussion in these forums mostly by people who, for some reason or another, have decided to jump the fence to psychiatry and are encouraging others to follow their footstep.

People who are going into psychology are doing it, hopefully, for reasons other then just money. I am personally earning my PsyD to be able to help others in more ways then just medications; I would like to offer them more choices. Additionally, I believe that psychology is evolving and new ideas will help generate new comprehensive ways of tx the pt and gain more income, e.g. RxP. If you can become a competent psychologist and form a niche for yourself, money will come.

The few individuals that have decided to jump the fence from psychology to psychiatry, I wish you all good luck but try not to attempt to justify your actions in your own heads by attempting to persuade other psychology majors to pursue your goals. This form of propaganda regarding psychology is not necessary and it should not be allowed to continue.

So, for all interested in pursuing a career in psychology do not just disregard it because of the $$$$$. Do what you see yourselves doing in the future as practitioners and do it because you enjoy its principles. Money will come if your persistent and others can trust you.
 
Sanman said:
Personally, I would choose a funded PhD/ PsyD program or go to med school with your goals. It isn't worth it to invest all that money in a private psy.d school and get substanially less money than a psychiatrist.


out of curiosity, where are these funded PsyD programs of which you speak? i'm considering the PsyD route myself, but the only programs i've come across with apa accreditation and decent reps seem to be extortionately expensive and offer little in terms of research assistantships, grants, etc. like you'd get via a PhD program at a large university.

i've elaborated on my particular scenario before, but i'm personally more interested in the clinical/teaching aspect of the profession as opposed to research - but i don't relish the idea of taking on six figures or so in debt for a PsyD either! an MFT degree is also an option i'm looking in to, but i still think a doctorate would ultimately satisfy me and open more doors in the end. so if there's a way to get a PsyD and have it fully or partially funded, i'd love to hear about it :)
 
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