Publications format on AMCAS

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I have 1 journal publication, 1 conference paper, and 1 textbook chapter. None of these are under PubMed (I think my PI dropped the ball...the first two were funded by the NIH and should have been registered with PubMed). What citation format should I use? Should I just use the citation format for the journal/conference that they were published in?

Also, do you just list the citation, or also include a brief description? Under a separate box, I included more info about what in particular I did, but should I include a super-abbreviated abstract under each of the three citations?

 

[armybound]

definitely include a brief description, including your role in the project.

I'm not sure how I'd cite it. I may even be unconventional and just say what the journal, date of publication, and article title were, e.g. "Journal article in the January, 2009 edition of Science entitled 'The most awesome research ever'"

 

[Pinkertinkle]

Its not usually up to your PI to register anything with medline/pubmed. It's up to the journal, and it is strange that it is not indexed on pubmed. Is it a peer reviewed publication?

 

[sarahl86]

MLA for the win!

I wish I could find a thread I saw a while back -- do a search for how to put research in AMCAS or something to that effect because one person in particular did a fantastic job of explaining how you should document it in AMCAS. Its there somewhere, gotta find it though...

 

[nick_carraway]

MLA for the win!

I wish I could find a thread I saw a while back -- do a search for how to put research in AMCAS or something to that effect because one person in particular did a fantastic job of explaining how you should document it in AMCAS. Its there somewhere, gotta find it though...

I believe we use APA, actually.

 

[farf]

Its not usually up to your PI to register anything with medline/pubmed. It's up to the journal, and it is strange that it is not indexed on pubmed. Is it a peer reviewed publication?

Yes, it was peer-reviewed but in an EE journal that was doing a call for papers for medical/bio applications, so I guess they don't typically register to pubmed. Should I make a note that these pubs are not on pubmed, or will it make me look like I'm faking?

Also, any more ideas on how to cite?

 

[theheat]

I also would like to see someone just post an example of a publication they cited in their amcas... I've searched and can't seem to find the thread.

 

[plsletmein]

Here's how I cited mine (for a Joe Schmoe working in PI Jane Doe lab)

Schmoe, J, more authors last name comma first name, and Doe, J. The bestest research article title ever that will make everyone so incredibly jealous. Cell 100(2): 1-20, May 2009.

Basically for mine I did:

Authors (last name comma first and middle initials). Article title. Journal title volume: pages, date of publication. (the last sequence can easily be copy and pasted from a quick pubmed search)


And here is MLA format from a website:

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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Journal Article
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Wilcox, Rhonda V. "Shifting Roles and Synthetic Women in Star. [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Trek: The Next Generation." Studies in Popular Culture 13.2 (1991):.[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 53-65..

basically give them enough so they can actually pubmed it and pull it up to look at if you list it as a publication
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[LAman10]

Yes, it was peer-reviewed but in an EE journal that was doing a call for papers for medical/bio applications, so I guess they don't typically register to pubmed. Should I make a note that these pubs are not on pubmed, or will it make me look like I'm faking?

Also, any more ideas on how to cite?

If you cite it and they can obtain the article using your citation, then it won't look like you're faking. For my part, I'm just giving a brief (very brief) overview of what I did, what I found, why it was important, and then including the citation (I used MLA format, but who the heck cares? the adcom is already gonna be stoked that you have a pub haha). if it helps, reference your research entry, e.g. "this pub was for research done in X lab." they'll be able to put 2 and 2 together.

oh yeah, what's the significance of having it cited on pubmed anyway? why would you want to point that out to them?

 

[theheat]

sounds good to me. So basically like endnote would do it? you cite yourself in the correct author position as well I assume (unless of course joe schmoe really did pull a first author cell article out of his @ss)? 😀

 

[plsletmein]

oh yeah, what's the significance of having it cited on pubmed anyway? why would you want to point that out to them?

because that's the huge governmental database where government funded research are archived in. the majority of research articles can be found there. if you cite a publication, the adcoms should be able to pull it up based on your citations, and the majority will probably head to pubmed to pull it up

 

[plsletmein]

sounds good to me. So basically like endnote would do it? you cite yourself in the correct author position as well I assume (unless of course joe schmoe really did pull a first author cell article out of his @ss)? 😀

or you can be a lazy @*s and endnote it

yes correct author order and maybe joe schmoe did pull off a first author

 

[theheat]

awesome, thank you! do people usually put a sentence or two to describe the paper / elaborate upon your involvement in the project?

or is this a bad idea?

 

[plsletmein]

awesome, thank you! do people usually put a sentence or two to describe the paper / elaborate upon your involvement in the project?

or is this a bad idea?

that's up to you. i think i read LizzyM's post somewhere saying to just cite it, but if you want to elaborate, more power to you

 

[LAman10]

because that's the huge governmental database where government funded research are archived in. the majority of research articles can be found there. if you cite a publication, the adcoms should be able to pull it up based on your citations, and the majority will probably head to pubmed to pull it up

yeah but I bet the second place they head is google scholar right? and it should def be on there if not on pubmed

 

[PremedIowa]

yeah but I bet the second place they head is google scholar right? and it should def be on there if not on pubmed

Hopefully they just won't just give up after not finding it on Pubmed. They do have to look at a lot of applications. Should the permanent URL be listed?

*I just want to know if anyone asks me about it later.

 

[plsletmein]

yeah but I bet the second place they head is google scholar right? and it should def be on there if not on pubmed

hmm is it a peer-reviewed journal and not some undergraduate publication journal? weird that your PI (if he/she works in a university setting) would not be publishing in a pubmed journal

 

[nick_carraway]

Hopefully they just won't just give up after not finding it on Pubmed. They do have to look at a lot of applications. Should the permanent URL be listed?

*I just want to know if anyone asks me about it later.

Just print out a copy and carry it with you to interviews in case something comes up. It's like a book chapter; do you think that adcoms will question your honesty for book chapters that cannot be googled?

Most likely, they'll be content just asking about the publication and getting reasonable answers in return.

 

[Pinkertinkle]

hmm is it a peer-reviewed journal and not some undergraduate publication journal? weird that your PI (if he/she works in a university setting) would not be publishing in a pubmed journal

If it's not necessarily all that related to medical research theres no reason for it to be on pubmed.

 

[plsletmein]

If it's not necessarily all that related to medical research theres no reason for it to be on pubmed.

Sure it is, everything from basic science on up is there. Any research involving federal funding should be there

 

[Pinkertinkle]

Sure it is, everything from basic science on up is there. Any research involving federal funding should be there

Where did you get that idea?
from pubmed:
"PubMed is a service of the U.S. National Library of Medicine that includes over 18 million citations from MEDLINE and other life science journals for biomedical articles back to 1948. PubMed includes links to full text articles and other related resources."

 

[WellWornLad]

Any research involving NIH funding, not necessarily Federal funding, must be listed in pubmed. It is the responsibility of the lead author to provide pubmed with the listing, although most journals will take care of the details for you on acceptance.

BTW, you guys are kidding yourselves if you think adcoms are going to be googling for your research papers.

 

[plsletmein]

Any research involving NIH funding, not necessarily Federal funding, must be listed in pubmed.

Yeah I meant NIH.

BTW, you guys are kidding yourselves if you think adcoms are going to be googling for your research papers.

my friend last year said one of his faculty interviewers was involved in the field that he published in and had his listed publication from his amcas application in hand to grill him during his interview

 

[crasiman]

Yeah I meant NIH.



my friend last year said one of his faculty interviewers was involved in the field that he published in and had his listed publication from his amcas application in hand to grill him during his interview

I still doubt that an adcomm member, when going over the application, checked the publication in any way other than acknowledging it.

That a faculty member who has interest in your area of research would take the extra time, however, seems pretty normal and very much something to think about before the interview.

 

[WellWornLad]

my friend last year said one of his faculty interviewers was involved in the field that he published in and had his listed publication from his amcas application in hand to grill him during his interview

Well anything's possible, but I think that particular interviewer was motivated more by his role as researcher than as adcom. God help your friend if his conclusions didn't mesh with his interviewer's research.

 

[Pinkertinkle]

Yeah I meant NIH.

That's right, there's no reason for the OP's paper to be in pubmed as it was an engineering paper.

 

[plsletmein]

none of these are under pubmed (i think my pi dropped the ball...the first two were funded by the nih and should have been registered with pubmed)

the director of the national institutes of health shall require that all investigators funded by the nih submit or have submitted for them to the national library of medicine’s pubmed central an electronic version of their final, peer-reviewed manuscripts upon acceptance for publication, to be made publicly available no later than 12 months after the official date of publication: provided, that the nih shall implement the public access policy in a manner consistent with copyright law.

the nih public access policy ensures that the public has access to the published results of nih funded research. It requires scientists to submit final peer-reviewed journal manuscripts that arise from nih funds to the digital archive pubmed central upon acceptance for publication. To help advance science and improve human health, the policy requires that these papers are accessible to the public on pubmed central no later than 12 months after publication

 

[Pinkertinkle]

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Oh, well then, that's true. But still not all basic science research need be on pubmed (as you had mentioned earlier)

 

[plsletmein]

Oh, well then, that's true. But still not all basic science research need be on pubmed (as you had mentioned earlier)

they do if they were funded by the nih

and you can't really separate basic science from "medical science"- medical science must build off of basic science. studying basic science allows for studies that eventually are more tangible in the form of immediate medical application

 

[Pinkertinkle]

they do if they were funded by the nih

and you can't really separate basic science from "medical science"- medical science must build off of basic science. studying basic science allows for studies that eventually are more tangible in the form of immediate medical application

So you would agree that basic science research in a field such as engineering that is NOT funded by the NIH does NOT necessarily need to be indexed in pubmed?

 

[plsletmein]

So you would agree that basic science research in a field such as engineering that is NOT funded by the NIH does NOT necessarily need to be indexed in pubmed?

sure

but there are plenty of engineering journals indexed in pubmed like "Journal of aerospace engineering" and "Journal of electronical and electronics engineering"

edit: actually if you look up "engineering" in their journals search, there's only 7 pages with most being some form of biomedical engineering journal

 

[Medgen]

Sorry for yet another question, but if you have a publication in an undergraduate research journal, what would be proper format for listing it in AMCAS? This particular journal is circulated at many other schools.