Pulling out of MS program for D-School

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Hey guys. I am applying for the 09 cycle this May. If I don't get in, I am planning on entering a MS program so that I can continue learning and is just used for a backup. When the next cycle comes again, do dental schools care if you pull out of the MS program? I know most MS programs are about 2 years at most universities. Do they expect you to finish the program before matriculating into dental school? Thanks for your help.
 
I think there was a post earlier about a student in a similar situation (you could browse the threads for it) The school may have chosen a student over someone else because they had that edge/MA. If that was the case, the school may make the acceptance contingent on the student finishing the MA. You really should verify that with each school you apply to. Best to hear the policy directly from the school.
 
I've been told numerous times by faculty in my department, particularly the grad advisor, that professional schools don't like it when you don't complete your masters before matriculating. In some cases, schools have offered people acceptances contingent upon their completion of the masters.

The other problem is that you may have difficulty finding an advisor who would be willing to take you on as a grad student if he/she knows you are going to leave if you get accepted to dental school.

Here's what I did: I graduated last june, mulled over the option of an MS degree, both thesis and non-thesis, and decided the best thing would be to be a post-bacc. But because i had a good relationship with the faculty in the bio department, I was able to get permission to take graduate classes, TA labs, all that stuff. Basically I had all the privileges of a grad student, but none of the research and no official title of grad student. If I had not been accepted this year, i would have entered the masters program because I believe I could finish it up by next year, since I had already started work on it this year. I probably could have gotten special permission to transfer my credits from my post-bacc year to apply to the masters program, and I had a professor who was willing to be my advisor and had a project lined up for me and everything.

My advice is not to start a masters program unless you plan to finish it. if you want to stay academically busy, just to a post-bacc and take the classes you want.
 
There are also programs (VCU for example) designed for pre professional students to enhance that record where after 1 year you get a "certificate" and if you don't get accepted anywhere, you can complete a second year for a masters. Check out the post bacc forum for more info and program links.
 
I've been told numerous times by faculty in my department, particularly the grad advisor, that professional schools don't like it when you don't complete your masters before matriculating. In some cases, schools have offered people acceptances contingent upon their completion of the masters.

The other problem is that you may have difficulty finding an advisor who would be willing to take you on as a grad student if he/she knows you are going to leave if you get accepted to dental school.

Here's what I did: I graduated last june, mulled over the option of an MS degree, both thesis and non-thesis, and decided the best thing would be to be a post-bacc. But because i had a good relationship with the faculty in the bio department, I was able to get permission to take graduate classes, TA labs, all that stuff. Basically I had all the privileges of a grad student, but none of the research and no official title of grad student. If I had not been accepted this year, i would have entered the masters program because I believe I could finish it up by next year, since I had already started work on it this year. I probably could have gotten special permission to transfer my credits from my post-bacc year to apply to the masters program, and I had a professor who was willing to be my advisor and had a project lined up for me and everything.

My advice is not to start a masters program unless you plan to finish it. if you want to stay academically busy, just to a post-bacc and take the classes you want.

Lemoncurry...congrats on your acceptance. I was wondering by "post-bac" do you mean just taking more undergrad bio courses. In my case I graduated with a BS May 07 and am now taking a biochem and gentics and all that good stuff at the undergrad level. Would I be considered "post-bac"? Thanks!
 
post-bacc generally refers to someone who has a bachelor's degree and is either pursuing a second bachelor's, or is taking classes and not pursuing a graduate degree.

Some schools have an actual post-bacc program for certain majors (i.e. certain course requirements), and I think you get a certificate or something, but no additional degree.


I'd say you're a post-bacc.
 
Here's how I interpret this. I had no knowledge that d-schools would look down on dropping a masters when I signed up for it and had no intention of completing it. There is no literature on any of the official websites. However, after being accepted, all the letters pretty much say if you indicated on AADSAS completion of degree, you must finish. When you are filling out schools attended and you plan on getting in to d-school, just click "none planned" or whatever the option is for the "degree."

To sum this all up, if you stated you would have a master's and don't complete, that is a big deal. If you NEVER mentioned completion of the degree program, dropping it should not be an issue.
 
It really just depends on the school. I'm in a masters program right now for microbiology and both OSU and Case said that they didn't really care if i finished my masters or not (obviously i'm going to do all i can to get it done before matriculation and it shouldn't be a problem), whereas university of michigan said my acceptance was contingent upon completion of my masters. That very well may be because of that fact that university of michigan is crazy about research though, so like i said, i think it really depends on the school. It's definitely an interview topic but i think they are more interested in seeing that you are atleast keeping yourself busy, and your mind sharp while waiting to apply.
 
hey thanks for the help guys. If I do a 1 years master (just courses, no thesis stuff), will schools focus on both my graduate and undergrad the same? or do they care more about undergrad, and the grad is something on the side that just enhances my apps. Also, I know it will probably be better asking my university the difference between the MS program for thesis vs just the courses, but I was wondering if anyone here can explain real quick. thanks for the help again
 
OSU, UNLV, and CASE said that they accpeted me based strictly upon my undergrad stats, but nonetheless, the research and masters stuff did come up in those interviews so i'm sure they atleast acknowledged it. so i would say that undergrad is definitely weighted more but graduate is still a good application boost.
 
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