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Anybody have any info on interviews at AZ's school? I am hoping for an interview there and I know they have a different interview process. They interview over 300 people but accept around 60 so any pointers?
 
ASU-devil said:
Anybody have any info on interviews at AZ's school? I am hoping for an interview there and I know they have a different interview process. They interview over 300 people but accept around 60 so any pointers?

I'm no expert but it doesn't hurt to update them with things you've done since your application was complete. You could always try writing a letter of intent to show that you're extremely interested in going there. I guess it doesn't hurt to try if it's going to land you an interview there. Yes the interview process is very different. All I can say is if you get an interview there be prepared to sharpen up on your current events and geography. Think Jeopardy! And I believe they accept 54 students.

Best of luck !
 
Red823 said:
I'm no expert but it doesn't hurt to update them with things you've done since your application was complete. You could always try writing a letter of intent to show that you're extremely interested in going there. I guess it doesn't hurt to try if it's going to land you an interview there. Yes the interview process is very different. All I can say is if you get an interview there be prepared to sharpen up on your current events and geography. Think Jeopardy! And I believe they accept 54 students.

Best of luck !

Thanks for the advice.
 
ASU-devil said:
Anybody have any info on interviews at AZ's school? I am hoping for an interview there and I know they have a different interview process. They interview over 300 people but accept around 60 so any pointers?

I think that we actually interview about 280 and accept about 80 or so. Applications are up 50% already this year from last year (last year we had 2,000 applications), so I'm assuming we'll hit 3,000 applicants this year.

Let me know when you GET an interview, then I'll answer some of your questions. And for sure update them on recent activities, if they are applicable.
 
ItsGavinC said:
I think that we actually interview about 280 and accept about 80 or so. Applications are up 50% already this year from last year (last year we had 2,000 applications), so I'm assuming we'll hit 3,000 applicants this year.

Let me know when you GET an interview, then I'll answer some of your questions. And for sure update them on recent activities, if they are applicable.
I'm planning on going to the open house on October 2nd, any tips on what I should ask or somebody to ask for in particular? I went to the last open house and I was very impressed with the facility, had there been any changes since April or so?
 
ASU-devil said:
I'm planning on going to the open house on October 2nd, any tips on what I should ask or somebody to ask for in particular? I went to the last open house and I was very impressed with the facility, had there been any changes since April or so?

There have been some changes. The most notable is that our clinic now has walls ( 😀 ), but there isn't anything to tour yet.

You should ask for me on October 2--I'll be there and would love to talk with you. 😀
 
I think Arizona is a great school with a great focus....I recently met with the Dean at my school and he gave Arizona much praise....The Dean At Temple wants to follow in Arizona's footsteps and have more of a clinical role within the community and not just within the dental school....Kudos to AZ for setting a standard that I hope many other schools will follow!
 
Dr.BadVibes said:
I think Arizona is a great school with a great focus....I recently met with the Dean at my school and he gave Arizona much praise....The Dean At Temple wants to follow in Arizona's footsteps and have more of a clinical role within the community and not just within the dental school....Kudos to AZ for setting a standard that I hope many other schools will follow!


NYUCD already does that. Just this week we gave free oral screenings to 5000 people. We also go out to schools to help and teach kids about oral hygeine...etc. Lots more to say but too lazy to type
 
Brocnizer2007 said:
NYUCD already does that. Just this week we gave free oral screenings to 5000 people. We also go out to schools to help and teach kids about oral hygeine...etc. Lots more to say but too lazy to type

Sounds great...we have that at Temple as well, but I was talking about doing actual clinical requirements within the community (i.e. outside the dental school walls) just like Arizona.
 
Dr.BadVibes said:
Sounds great...we have that at Temple as well, but I was talking about doing actual clinical requirements within the community (i.e. outside the dental school walls) just like Arizona.


Just to play devils advocate here...but sounds like a dental school scam. It seems like they are trying to reduce operating costs by going to clinics and what not.

On the flip side, dental education is getting pretty damn expensive...even from a public school. So maybe this is a good way to curb some expenses like building a smaller on site clinic, fewer instructors (since the clinic people will be teaching), and a few other costs

Oh well, lets see how it plays out in AZ....
 
Brocnizer2007 said:
Just to play devils advocate here...but sounds like a dental school scam. It seems like they are trying to reduce operating costs by going to clinics and what not.

On the flip side, dental education is getting pretty damn expensive...even from a public school. So maybe this is a good way to curb some expenses like building a smaller on site clinic, fewer instructors (since the clinic people will be teaching), and a few other costs

Oh well, lets see how it plays out in AZ....

HAHHAHA....great point....I was thinking the same...however, the reason this came up was because Temple is well known for its clinical trip to Haiti, however students are pissed cause they were not getting clinical credit for it and thus were missing a week at the school....then we branched off on how we can get some people to do a few days outside of the school to have more of a community outreach approach and get credit for it.

Im sure saving money was in their cards, but it also makes the school look good and its total win-win! Do you really think Arizona does this to save some money?? seems like the dean down there is really dedicated to his philosophy...
 
My dentist is a BU almuna, she told me that they started the APEX prorgram (similar to what AZ is doing) to reduce costs, and let the schools increase its class size without increasing the number of seats in the clinic. Instead of having all the students in the clinic, they can have some in the community practicing at other facilites. I am not saying that this community service is a bad thing, but it is a good idea to understand why they are doing this.
 
edkNARF said:
My dentist is a BU almuna, she told me that they started the APEX prorgram (similar to what AZ is doing) to reduce costs, and let the schools increase its class size without increasing the number of seats in the clinic. Instead of having all the students in the clinic, they can have some in the community practicing at other facilites. I am not saying that this community service is a bad thing, but it is a good idea to understand why they are doing this.

This kinda worries me, not BU but the concept. Instead of dental school it will be a dental factory. Produce the most at the lowest cost. Whenever there is cost cutting, there is also a reduction in quality.
 
Brocnizer2007 said:
...Produce the most at the lowest cost...

Ah, capitalism at its best. I am really drawn to the notion of being able to get out into the community, or even temporarily relocate out-of-state or even the country, but what I am concerned with is how much of this volleying around a student can expect. And yes, there is the issue of quality.
 
hey sprgrover...do you know if Arizona looks favorably on people from Utah, or other surrounding states? I thought you once said that Arizona gave preference to people willing to establish practices in rural communities in Arizona? I am originally from southern utah and would love to settle down in someplace in the southwest (other than utah). How could I convey that I am interested in moving there even though I'm an out of stater (living in Kansas right now)? Or would informing them of my intention even matter?
 
msf41 said:
hey sprgrover...

I remember reading in some of their literature that one of the reasons why Kirksville College of Osteopathic Medicine (ASDOH's parent/sponsoring institution) selected Arizona was that the state is very underserved, and as such, they have an interest in attracting and retaining dentists that want to work in the area. I plan on settling in the southwest myself and I stated this fact in one of the essays contained in their secondary. Since they are private your current state of residence should not adversely affect your chances. As far as preference for states, a recruiter from Kirksville visited my campus last year and said that the osteopathic school loved their Idaho and Utah applicants and that the dental school had a good number of matriculants from those states as well. Whether or not that translates into a pronounced preference I can't say. I am sure that your community service and background will go far at Arizona. If you are planning on settling in the southwest then by all means mention this fact - it certainly wouldn't hurt. When asked in my interview 'where do you see yourself in ten years' I responded, in part, by stating that I see myself in Arizona practicing dentistry. Best of luck! 👍
 
Do our 4th year rotations allow the school to save some operating costs? Probably.

Do they allow the clinic to have less chairs than it would otherwise? You bet.

Do they allow us to work hand-in-hand with dentists in a real-world environment? Absolutely. That doesn't mean doing preps or assisting, it means treating patients, becoming familiar with billing, handling scheduling, understanding lab/operating costs, and everything associated with our profession.

The "rotation" model has long been a success in medicine, and has many important things to offer to dentistry.
 
Sprgrover said:
I am really drawn to the notion of being able to get out into the community, or even temporarily relocate out-of-state or even the country, but what I am concerned with is how much of this volleying around a student can expect.

3rd year is entirely on campus in the clinics. 4th year is a month in clinic, then a month on rotation, month in clinic, month on rotation--throughout the entire year. I think it translates to 6 months in clinic and 5 rotations throughout the US/world.
 
ItsGavinC said:
3rd year is entirely on campus in the clinics. 4th year is a month in clinic, then a month on rotation, month in clinic, month on rotation--throughout the entire year. I think it translates to 6 months in clinic and 5 rotations throughout the US/world.
Hey Gavin when is the new facility open for clinics, will it be open for the incoming 2005 cycle?
I also wanted to be more prepared for my interview (if I get one) so I have been really striving to be more involved and aware of current events. I wanted to know if reading the paper is enough preparation or what should I do?
 
ASU-devil said:
Hey Gavin when is the new facility open for clinics, will it be open for the incoming 2005 cycle?
I also wanted to be more prepared for my interview (if I get one) so I have been really striving to be more involved and aware of current events. I wanted to know if reading the paper is enough preparation or what should I do?

Yep, the clinic will certainly be open for the incoming class. We should be all moved in during March/April, which gives us several (3-4) months in it prior to 3rd year.
 
ASU-devil said:
Anybody have any info on interviews at AZ's school? I am hoping for an interview there and I know they have a different interview process. They interview over 300 people but accept around 60 so any pointers?


I have come to the conclusion that Arizona is not interviewing for dental school students but actually casting for a reality show.
 
I second the "really lame" comment.
 
So far, though, Accidental's conjecture as to what Arizona is looking for is the most concrete speculation I've seen. Arizona is "very specific about what they are looking for," but no one seems to really have any idea what they're looking for. When a school actually gives you points for correctly answering current events questions and writing essays, it makes you wonder exactly what's going on down there.

Maybe I'm just bitter that I wasted $135 and several hours of my time on their secondary, only to not pass the "high bar" they've set. Regardless, the secrecy involving their interview process and exactly what kind of person they're looking for makes one wonder.
 
honestly it sounds like you are bitter. no offense.
 
I got an interview at AZ last Sept. I believe this school has a unique approach to the dental teaching and education. From the SND, I know some people were being surprised with their interview process, especially when they asked you about current events, geography, etc.....BUT do you guys ever think that they asked you these questions because 1) they want to know if you are well-rounded, up-to-date kind a person, or just someone who are interested in money? Their mission is to train dentists who will be leaders of a community and work for the underserved population. If you are not up to date in politics and current events, then how are you going to be a good leader? 2) They might test you to see how well you handle pressure, especially when they asked you something that you do not already have an answer . In reality, if a patient asks you something that you do not know, how would you response?
I think some people are being too harsh on AZ, but the irony is a lot of people applied. I believe last year the school received 1900 applications. And this year is even more!!! If you do not believe in their education, why apply in the first place? Is it because you originally thought it is easier to get in to this school than other school, given that it is new. And now you are being harsh on the school because you are disappointed on how they select students or how they conduct their interview?
Common, give me a break! How many schools say they have certain criteria for the applicants but do they all specifically list everything out? Most school say that they look at DAT, GPA, LORS.....but honestly, what are they looking for? Does anyone have an answer? If DAT, GPA, LORS ..are the only main things then i think A LOT of people should deserve to get into each dental school. Interview is the tool used to eliminate people who do not have the "soft" skills, and again, no school would say that explicitly. I mean, do you think interview is just another chance for you to regurgitate of what is written on your application? Or should it be a chance for the Adcom to know you as a person? And if it is for getting to know you, then they should ask anything (not illegal questions of course) to challenge you and see your true self. I think the interview questions at AZ are legit. In addition, all interviewees are being asked the same questions, which mean everyone has the fair chance.
I am an applicant this year at AZ. And during my interivew day, all the interviewees who were with me on that day were very impressed with the school. I believe every school has positive and negative aspects, and I am not saying that AZ the best or all perfect, but to negatively criticize a school just because their interview process is not what you are expecting is a little bit unfair. I hope that future interviewees would spent time to know more about AZ school on their interview day so they know what it is like to be a student there. I have a friend who goes there and she loves it. I would go there in a heartbeat.
 
sounds like the case is closed to me. well said.
 
P.S I don't remember how many questions on geography and current events they asked me, but I could only answer 2. Yeah, it sucks but I did not complain.
 
Dr.Smiley-OR said:
Common, give me a break! How many schools say they have certain criteria for the applicants but do they all specifically list everything out? Most school say that they look at DAT, GPA, LORS.....but honestly, what are they looking for? Does anyone have an answer?
The issue here is that from reading this forum, and even from those who have interviewed there, it is clear that Arizona is very particular about the type of applicant they are looking for. In fact, it seems that they take pride in their search for "non-traditional applicants." What I am saying is that if they were more up front about what they were looking for, perhaps more of those people would apply there, and fewer people who don't fit their criteria would not apply there. For example, it is very clear what kind of applicant Meharry is looking for. This saves many applicants time, money, and energy because they know they do not fall into this category.

Perhaps Arizona's definition of what they are looking for isn't quite as clear-cut as it seems to be. Also, their motives for secrecy may include preventing pretenders from attempting to fit the mold in order to be accepted. I don't have the answers.

I am not saying Arizona is a bad school by any means, and I don't doubt that it will hold a prominent place among its fellow dental schools. However, the shroud of mystery surrounding the school and its interview process is bound to draw criticism, especially when individuals are investing large amounts of time and energy into applying.

Dr.Smiley-OR said:
Their mission is to train dentists who will be leaders of a community and work for the underserved population. If you are not up to date in politics and current events, then how are you going to be a good leader?
This begs the question: Was Ghandi a good leader? Did Ghandi's knowledge of the name of a hurricane 2,000 miles away affect his ability to be an outstanding leader in his sphere of the world?

Was it important that Mother Theresa knew the names of five world leaders? Was she less sincere because she didn't stay up-to-date with all the latest current events on CNN.com?
 
jdcinza13 said:
That was really lame.

I thought it was pretty funny. I don't mean any offense - I just don't understand the secrecy behind their process - that's all. I toured the school myself and I was very impressed with it. The only reason I didn't apply is because I want to get out of the state for a change. Had I applied I would love to go there. I'm sure there is some logic to their process, I just don't understand it.
 
Typo said:
In fact, it seems that they take pride in their search for "non-traditional applicants." What I am saying is that if they were more up front about what they were looking for, perhaps more of those people would apply there, and fewer people who don't fit their criteria would not apply there.

Perhaps Arizona's definition of what they are looking for isn't quite as clear-cut as it seems to be. Also, their motives for secrecy may include preventing pretenders from attempting to fit the mold in order to be accepted. I don't have the answers.

However, the shroud of mystery surrounding the school and its interview process is bound to draw criticism, especially when individuals are investing large amounts of time and energy into applying.

This begs the question: Was Ghandi a good leader? Did Ghandi's knowledge of the name of a hurricane 2,000 miles away affect his ability to be an outstanding leader in his sphere of the world?

Was it important that Mother Theresa knew the names of five world leaders? Was she less sincere because she didn't stay up-to-date with all the latest current events on CNN.com?


A couple of points on this posting....

Who cares if they want non-traditional applicants? If that's what they want, let them.

You keep talking about secrecy and "a shroud of mystery".... What more do you need to know other than they want to know if you know about current events. It's a group format etc. That's not secrecy or a shroud of mystery. I don't want this to be a personal attack, but it sounds like you have never been to a job interview in your life. You don't know what questions they are going to ask. That is the point. If everyone knew the answers to the questions, there wouldn't be a point in asking and NOBODY would stand out. The point of the interview is to MAKE people stand out.

You asked questions about Gandhi and Mother Teresa. Obviously you haven't learned any critical thinking in your college classes, and if you think that knowing the facts like that are important that's great. I think knowing facts is fine, but Knowing HOW the Hurricane AFFECTS you 2,000 miles away is the whole crutch of the situation. Knowing the fact can lead you into a much deeper and more broad discussion. It's called critical thinking. It's knowing that because the 3 hurricanes occured, your produce (mostly citrus fruit) prices are going up. Your insurance company has a large payout and that affects your insurance payment. Obviously you have missed the point on why they want to see if you know about current events because they DO actually affect you. Welcome to the real world.
 
Typo said:
Maybe I'm just bitter that I wasted $135 and several hours of my time on their secondary, only to not pass the "high bar" they've set.

Probably.

But seriously, there is a lot of animosity towards the school because it is new. It's a funny thing to ponder. It seems people halfway expect to be denied from UConn or Harvard or Penn, because those schools are established and have been around forever. And, it also seems that people don't expect to be denied from Arizona (or UNLV or NOVA for that matter) because they are new schools and certainly don't have any standards, nor can they afford to be picky about the students they choose.

That latter point couldn't be further from the truth. I know many people who apply to Arizona (and UNLV and NOVA) as "safety" schools. But the ball doesn't always fall that way. The acceptance rate this year will be around 3% (2500-3000 total applicants this year for a class of 54!).

Once again, people harbor disdain for any new school that only has a 3% acceptance rate, but if the applicant interest didn't exist like it does then the acceptance rate would be higher.

Does that make the school great? Heck no. Any conclusion to that extent from sheer acceptance data would be faulted. But it *does* mean that there is significant interest in the school.
 
Gavin,

My aadsas application just barly went out last week. Does Arizona already have all of their spots filled by now, or do late applicants have a chance?
 
jdcinza13 said:
Obviously you haven't learned any critical thinking in your college classes, and if you think that knowing the facts like that are important that's great.
With all due respect, how you arrived at these broad assumptions about my education and critical thinking abilities from just a few posts of mine is beyond me.

I think knowing facts is fine, but Knowing HOW the Hurricane AFFECTS you 2,000 miles away is the whole crutch of the situation. Knowing the fact can lead you into a much deeper and more broad discussion. It's called critical thinking. It's knowing that because the 3 hurricanes occured, your produce (mostly citrus fruit) prices are going up. Your insurance company has a large payout and that affects your insurance payment. Obviously you have missed the point on why they want to see if you know about current events because they DO actually affect you. Welcome to the real world.
Your point on current events is very well stated, but it simply does not address the issue I was talking about in the first place. I understand that a current event can affect my life through the "butterfly effect," especially something as large as three hurricanes.

But, by the same token, I could also argue that what a CEO in Florida had for breakfast this morning negatively affected his hormone levels, putting him in a foul mood, which caused him to yell at his secretary, who yelled at her husband, who then got upset over the phone with his friend in Utah, who happens to be my next door neighbor, who then yelled at me. Absurd, you may say, to compare this to three hurricanes, but they both share a key factor in common: I can do nothing about them in the first place! It is one thing to understand the ebb and flow of economies, as in the case of your citrus fruit example, and an entirely different thing to influence the price of the citrus fruit.

This brings us back to the initial point: that knowledge of current events makes a good leader. I disagree. Perhaps it will make a more aware leader, and will give them the information to make better judgments as they influence the people around them. But what is truly important, in my opinion, is their knowledge of current events that they can influence. Yes, there certainly are current events on the national and even international level that we can influence, but most of what the media chooses to show us is beyond our control.

The "shroud of mystery," which I admit was probably an over-dramatization on my part, is brought about by the interviews page on the SDN homepage. Virtually every dental school has interview feedback (including specific questions) except Arizona, who requested that students not discuss their interview questions.

I apologize if I offended you in my criticisms of Arizona's interviewing process. The bottom line is, what works for them works for them, and what I have to say is just my opinion. I'm sure that if I understood their criteria I would be less critical.
 
ItsGavinC said:
But seriously, there is a lot of animosity towards the school because it is new. It's a funny thing to ponder. It seems people halfway expect to be denied from UConn or Harvard or Penn, because those schools are established and have been around forever. And, it also seems that people don't expect to be denied from Arizona (or UNLV or NOVA for that matter) because they are new schools and certainly don't have any standards, nor can they afford to be picky about the students they choose.

That latter point couldn't be further from the truth. I know many people who apply to Arizona (and UNLV and NOVA) as "safety" schools. But the ball doesn't always fall that way. The acceptance rate this year will be around 3% (2500-3000 total applicants this year for a class of 54!).
Thanks for your respectful response, Gavin, especially since the topic of discussion is your school. 👍 I completely agree with your points. Yes, even the one about me being bitter. 😛
 
Typo said:
This begs the question: Was Ghandi a good leader? Did Ghandi's knowledge of the name of a hurricane 2,000 miles away affect his ability to be an outstanding leader in his sphere of the world?

Was it important that Mother Theresa knew the names of five world leaders? Was she less sincere because she didn't stay up-to-date with all the latest current events on CNN.com?

Aye, I agree on this point. I was waiting to be asked current events from the dental world as I get like 45-70 CE credits each year when I am only required to take 12. But I was also a bit baffled that this wasn't very important to them compared to the questions I was asked.

If patients ask me something I don't know I would say, "I don't know, I would be happy to find out and get back to you." I would do my research and present it. Life is to short to be a jeopardy champion on everything. I agree that we should "keep up on things", but, and this is a big BUT, does knowing the name of hurricanes and government heads make you a good dentist? Just like not knowing, does not make you a bad one?

In closing, I really liked this school and would also move in a heartbeat. This program at AZSOH really impressed me.
 
msf41 said:
Gavin,

My aadsas application just barly went out last week. Does Arizona already have all of their spots filled by now, or do late applicants have a chance?

I honestly don't know, but I would say that they probably don't even have half of the spots filled.

That's just pure speculation on my part though.
 
You guys are putting *way* too much weight on those current event questions. Those certainly don't make or break an applicant.

I've been in interviews where applicants knew nothing and were accepted, and also interviews where they nailed all of the questions and weren't accepted.

Some are acting as though their admission depends on whether they watch CNN or not, which is a hyped-up scenario and completely untrue.

I think this is a good discussion though, and I'm always interested in what people think about interview procedures at dental schools.
 
Yes, Gavin, you are probably right. But most dental applicants are over-achievers and hate it when they feel they have failed or at least felt they have failed at any rate. 🙂

One thing I have noticed is this: all of us here at SDN do seem to worry about the "little" things. IMO. 😉 (Including myself in that of course.)
 
In support of Typo, he is a terrific guy with a lot of amazing capabilities (especially at Halo). So what if he has a negative spin on Arizona? Do we all have to be a squad of kool-aid drinkers for our opinons to matter? I appreciate an honest perspective on a topic regardless of whether or not I agree.
 
Darksunshine said:
Yes, Gavin, you are probably right. But most dental applicants are over-achievers and hate it when they feel they have failed or at least felt they have failed at any rate. 🙂

One thing I have noticed is this: all of us here at SDN do seem to worry about the "little" things. IMO. 😉 (Including myself in that of course.)

True to that. You've summed me up perfectly. 😀
 
ItsGavinC said:
3rd year is entirely on campus in the clinics. 4th year is a month in clinic, then a month on rotation, month in clinic, month on rotation--throughout the entire year. I think it translates to 6 months in clinic and 5 rotations throughout the US/world.
Could you be more specific? Are you saying that you need to do rotation across the country and the world? If this is the case, I'm going to withdraw my application. Another question, I looked at the stat of last year, DAT and average GPA seem a bit lower than other schools though. Any thought on why this is the case? Thanks.
 
luder98 said:
Could you be more specific? Are you saying that you need to do rotation across the country and the world? If this is the case, I'm going to withdraw my application. Another question, I looked at the stat of last year, DAT and average GPA seem a bit lower than other schools though. Any thought on why this is the case? Thanks.

You need to do rotations during your 4th year (5 of them as I recall), and if you don't have a preference as to where they are, then you can have them assigned by faculty.

For example, if you have a dentist in your homestate that you wish to work with, then you can do a rotation with him. If you would like to work at a community health center in Montana or Maine (two cool locations we have set up) then you can do those. If you don't care, then you'll be assigned.

The DAT/GPA of last year's matriculants are 18.4 and 3.4. If those are lower than other schools, it could be because the adcom strongly considers factors other than DAT/GPA in their decisions. That's just my speculation, however.
 
Thanks. I'll keep it on the list then. This whole process makes me so freaking worried.
 
For what it's worth, I still think Arizona sounds like a great school and probably would have really enjoyed going there. Gavin was even kind enough to take a couple of hours out of his night to meet with me in July to talk about the school. If I had ended up attending the school, however, I would probably still wonder about a couple of things from the interview. But like Gavin said, I'm probably just making a mountain out of a molehill.
 
Typo said:
For what it's worth, I still think Arizona sounds like a great school and probably would have really enjoyed going there. Gavin was even kind enough to take a couple of hours out of his night to meet with me in July to talk about the school. If I had ended up attending the school, however, I would probably still wonder about a couple of things from the interview. But like Gavin said, I'm probably just making a mountain out of a molehill.

And to be perfectly honest, I wish you were attending with us.
 
Typo,
You're right, I didn't know your background, and for jumping to conclusions I apologize. I'm not trying to say whether Arizona is doing it right or not, just that there are other things that factor into current events. I'm applying to multiple schools, so I guess I can't be considered a kool-aid drinker from AZ, and I know you didn't say that, but anyone that wants to play a little Halo and drink kool-aid while here in AZ, let me know.
 
I think one of AZ's goals is to find a class that has a diverse group of qualities. IMO they are not looking for one kind applicant and they are willing to forgive some lower GPA's/DAT's to achieve this.

I do not agree with many aspects of the interview or selection process, but they do seem to accept the students that they are looking for.
 
Just wondering . . .

How is it that most people are impressed with their program but are disgusted with their interview/admission process? Aren't the two complementary and a good predictor of what it would be like to go to school there . . . ?

What is it then are people impressed by?

It's just my thought, but the focus of Az's program is community health, which means actually spending time in the community, ie. traveling, etc,. And, also the osteopathic philosophy, which means holistic care and taking in the whole picture.

I mean, if just the four walls impressed you, and you didn't look beyond that, and see the whole picture, then maybe it isn't the right fit and you wouldn't be happy there anyway.

Just my opinioin, let me apologize now if I offend anyone. 😛
 
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