Question about average GPA/DAT scores for state schools

[organichemistry]

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I was curious about the average GPA/DAT scores for some of the state schools that accept out of staters, but give preference to in staters.

I would imagine that the out of staters getting in have much higher than those average stats, so even though the number of out of staters is small, couldn't it skew the numbers a little bit?

http://dentalstats.tripod.com/03-04.htm

As an example, let's take a look at the first school on the list, University of Alabama. Suppose 47 in staters enrolled and 6 out of staters enrolled.

mean DAT AA - 18.9
mean PAT - 17.4
mean sci GPA - 3.36
mean cum GPA - 3.47

Now, if out of staters have higher stats, like say average 3.8 GPAs and 22 AA/20 PAT, couldn't it be inferred that the in staters have slightly lower averages than these mean numbers... so the average matriculating in state student might have numbers more like 18.2/17.0/3.3/3.4

Or am I really just stretching here? For Alabama with only 6 it might not be a big deal, but if you look down at schools like Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, Tennesee, West Virginia, etc. it seems like if out of staters are a good bit higher than the in staters, than the actual average of matriculating in staters is lower than what is shown their.

This would be good news for those in-staters who are applying to their state school that accept out of staters and are worried they might not have the stats to get in.

On the flipside, we all know that GPAs are probably up a tenth of a point or more and DAT scores up a point a more across the board in the last few years. But yeah... food for thought...

 

[phremius]

who cares? you've got way too much time on your hands quit wasting your free time, by the time youget to D school they will be at a premium. enjoy it while you have it instead of analyzingwhether some school's average instater is 18.2 vs 18.9

 

[SuperC]

who cares? you've got way too much time on your hands quit wasting your free time, by the time youget to D school they will be at a premium. enjoy it while you have it instead of analyzingwhether some school's average instater is 18.2 vs 18.9

ouch!

 

[SMC2UCLA2_]

who cares? you've got way too much time on your hands quit wasting your free time, by the time youget to D school they will be at a premium. enjoy it while you have it instead of analyzingwhether some school's average instater is 18.2 vs 18.9

This man is hilarious. Allow me to make my point:

Taken from: http://phremius.bol.ucla.edu/lesson.htm

So I had this email exchange with the professor that teaches the very first class of NYU D school, some mandatory course on "technology in healthcare", which suspiciously smelled as useful as those "Powerpoint for Success" or "Your Sexual Health" seminars we had to sit through back in college. As I had a function to attend over Labor Day weekend that would be greatly enhanced by me leaving early and heavens forbid, miss the paramount information that would be disseminated in the last two days, I decided to email her and request a leave of absence.

"Hey Dr. -, I'm an incoming freshman and I was wondering if I could miss the last two days of your technology class. I just want to make sure in advance so I know whether to buy tickets or not."

"No you may not. The class is not only important, but is a graduation requirement, if you fail it you will be forced to attend mediation. Plus, it will teach you how to best utilize your laptop and palm and other instruments throughout the next 4 years and more."

"Well, this function's really important to me and my family, so... I guess I'm willing to fail it and go through remediation with next year's batch of incoming freshman."

"Is this the approach that you want to take with your education? It's about you learning how to best apply technology in the healthcare profession!"

"Yeah but I play video games though."

"Huh?"

"Well, if I can figure out that when playing defense on Madden 2005, if you just use the play "OLB Blitz" under 3-4 formation, press L1 + Up Arrow to spread your down linemen, press L2 + Left Arrow to shift your linebackers to the left, and manually move your Strong-side MLB so that he is outside of your SS-OLB, you can then proceed to sack the quarterback guaranteed on every passing play due to a combination of AI glitch and clipping error; I'm pretty confident that I can figure out how to say, use my laptop."

And thus concluded our brief exchange of emails. Now, what is the lesson of the day here? is it "My balls are huge" ?? Close, but no, rather it is ALWAYS ALWAYS make initial contact using an anonymous email address.

 

[Yellow Snow]

I think it is a safe assumption to make that in-stater average scores may be slightly lower.