Question about msar acceptance data for each school.

[mrh125]

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like let's take a school like UCLA:
you have 154 in-state people who matriculated out of 6179, 21 out of 3375 out of state matriculated, and 0 out of 330 international matriculated this brings the total matriculated to 175/9984 which is an excruciatingly low 1.75% >_<. My question is did the other 98.25% get rejected? It doesn't show the deferrals for some schools, so i'm left wondering what the hell happened? Is there any way to get a better view of how many people were actually accepted (even if they deferred) or find more informative statistical data for each school? I'm wondering if this data is skewed because otherwise these matriculation data if you assume they're roughly equivalent to acceptance rates, then acceptance rates are really flipping low. Like a lot of schools seem to be in the 1-3% range I noticed this because I was looking at a school's matriculated # tonight. Is there any way to see what percentage are actually accepted at each school that includes deferrals and is super accurate?

US news also gives me incomplete data,but maybe im not checking all the data i can see.

 

[Person0715]

Not everyone who is accepted matriculates. Schools tend to accept double the intended class size.

 

[Espadaleader]

Don't worry. People turn down schools. UCLA prob accepts 250-300 people. Buy US News if you want to see this

 

[blueharbor]

Don't worry. People turn down schools. UCLA prob accepts 250-300 people. Buy US News if you want to see this

The US News subscription saved my sanity on this front... I wish it included data for the Unranked schools as well though.

 

[ace12345]

It is a good idea to look/ask around about schools that are OOS friendly and those that are not. Some of these state college applications can really be a throw away if you don't look at the data close enough.

 

[LizzyM]

There are those folks who are admitted to UCSF, UCSD and UCLA. Obviously, as super as they are, they can only matriculate at one. Most school accept double or triple the number of seats. I agree that buying USNews is the way to go on that front.

Also, take a look at MSAR for proportion of applicants interviewed as that is the proportion that matters when making application decisions.
Some schools will interview and admit OOS applicants but those folks won't matriculate because they have offers at schools that are lower in cost.

 

[breakintheroof]

Also, take a look at MSAR for proportion of applicants interviewed as that is the proportion that matters when making application decisions.
Some schools will interview and admit OOS applicants but those folks won't matriculate because they have offers at schools that are lower in cost.

Thanks as always for your wisdom, @LizzyM. I'm curious as to how relevant exactly the proportion of students interviewed is. Schools have wildly varying acceptance rates among those they interview--like 25% to 65%. Would it be fair to guess that schools that give more applicants a shot at an interview think of it as a more useful predictor, and weight it more heavily in admissions decisions?

 

[LizzyM]

Thanks as always for your wisdom, @LizzyM. I'm curious as to how relevant exactly the proportion of students interviewed is. Schools have wildly varying acceptance rates among those they interview--like 25% to 65%. Would it be fair to guess that schools that give more applicants a shot at an interview think of it as a more useful predictor, and weight it more heavily in admissions decisions?

As you are targeting your application, you are seeking an interview. It makes sense to avoid schools that interview a very small proportion of OOS applicants relative to the proportion of IS applicants interviewed. If you interview well, you may be admitted. What can be happening at some schools is that OOS applicants are assessed for their likelihood to matriculate and those who appear to be uninterested or using the school as a safety may be unlikely to be admitted. So, even if a low proportion of OOS interviewees end up matriculating or even just offered admission it could be that the school is choosing to protect its yield by passing on applicants who are unlikely to matriculate because they are choosing a cheaper IS school or a more prestigious school (or both).

 

[breakintheroof]

What can be happening at some schools is that OOS applicants are assessed for their likelihood to matriculate and those who appear to be uninterested or using the school as a safety may be unlikely to be admitted.

Very interesting, thank you. The upshot seems to be, it's best to target schools where you have a good chance of getting an interview and you can communicate your genuine interest in attending that school.

(@mrh125 hopefully this is helpful to you as well. Target your application properly and the odds are less bleak than they appear.)