Question about post interview acceptance rates

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Hello! I was wondering if post interview acceptance rates are higher than actually reported. I ask this because they are usually given as number accepted over number that interview. However, there are cases where people interview but then withdraw after being accepted elsewhere. If we account for these people (however many there may be) wouldn’t the post interview acceptance rate be higher?
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OxenFoxen said:
Are you asking about people who interview and withdraw BEFORE being accepted?
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Yes. I think you’re right though it probably isn’t a lot of people who withdraw before being accepted to really affect the data.
 
Also it kinda scares me that schools like Columbia and UPenn have much lower oos acceptance rates compared to in state. Thoughts on why this may be?
 
moldydorito said:
Also it kinda scares me that schools like Columbia and UPenn have much lower oos acceptance rates compared to in state. Thoughts on why this may be?
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Maybe they have found that IS’ers tend to choose an IS medical school when they hold multiple acceptances (assuming the schools are in the same competitiveness bracket). They may be interviewing OOS candidates and assessing how likely that candidate is to choose their school over the schools in the interviewees home state.
 
Kardio said:
Maybe they have found that IS’ers tend to choose an IS medical school when they hold multiple acceptances (assuming the schools are in the same competitiveness bracket). They may be interviewing OOS candidates and assessing how likely that candidate is to choose their school over the schools in the interviewees home state.
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How would they determine this? Would this be an issue for such top tier schools? ive already interviewed at both these schools and the last thing I’d want is for them to think I’d choose my in state schools over them.
 
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moldydorito said:
How would they determine this? Would this be an issue for such top tier schools? ive already interviewed at both these schools and the last thing I’d want is for them to think I’d choose my in state schools over them.
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It is a factor for all schools, for the interview offer and matriculation. It is not a factor after an interview is granted.
 
gyngyn said:
It is a factor for all schools, for the interview offer and matriculation. It is not a factor after an interview is granted.
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I guess I’m a little confused. How would this explain why in state acceptance is so much higher for penn and Columbia?
 
moldydorito said:
I guess I’m a little confused. How would this explain why in state acceptance is so much higher for penn and Columbia?
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IS candidates are the easiest to predict for any school, private or public.
 
gyngyn said:
IS candidates are the easiest to predict for any school, private or public.
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Just to make sure I’m understanding this correctly, so penn/Columbia think that people from their respective states are more likely to attend, so they are more like to accept them post interview? This makes me feel poopy since I’m from a small midwestern state without any good med schools :’(
 
moldydorito said:
Just to make sure I’m understanding this correctly, so penn/Columbia think that people from their respective states are more likely to attend, so they are more like to accept them post interview? This makes me feel poopy since I’m from a small midwestern state without any good med schools :’(
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No. The algorithm that determines who should be interviewed includes the fact that many IS applicants would rather stay IS.
It is also true that IS interviewees seem more accessible in interviews and more comfortable. This seems to be associated with the positive outcome.
 
gyngyn said:
No. The algorithm that determines who should be interviewed includes the fact that many IS applicants would rather stay IS.
It is also true that IS interviewees seem more accessible in interviews and more comfortable. This seems to be associated with the positive outcome.
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Sorry to keep asking, but the fact that more in state applicants are invited for interview doesn’t seem to explain why the POST interview acceptance rate would be so different between in state vs oos applicants. Do you think the difference (like a 15% difference) is really just that in state applicants are more comfortable during their interviews so they are more likely to get in post interview?
 
moldydorito said:
Just to make sure I’m understanding this correctly, so penn/Columbia think that people from their respective states are more likely to attend, so they are more like to accept them post interview? This makes me feel poopy since I’m from a small midwestern state without any good med schools :’(
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IS + Ivy status is a pretty unbeatable combo for any applicant.
 
imbesrs said:
IS + Ivy status is a pretty unbeatable combo for any applicant.
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What about oos+ ivy status (I graduated from penn). I’m just worried because I’m not in state for any of the private schools I applied to.
 
moldydorito said:
What about oos+ ivy status (I graduated from penn). I’m just worried because I’m not in state for any of the private schools I applied to.
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There are plenty of OOS seats for you. Youre clearly a sick applicant and they recognize when an applicant has no "good schools" close to their home- if anything I would say in my humble opinion that thats more of a reason to actually give you an acceptance. You would leave your state to attend school there because of a lack in your own.
 
moldydorito said:
What about oos+ ivy status (I graduated from penn). I’m just worried because I’m not in state for any of the private schools I applied to.
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You graduated from HYPSM, you have a 3.97, one point from a perfect MCAT, and you already have 14 interviews. Can you explain (remember, rationally), what you're worried about? Are you worried you won't get 25/25 interviews?
 
ChymeofPassion said:
You graduated from HYPSM, you have a 3.97, one point from a perfect MCAT, and you already have 14 interviews. Can you explain (remember, rationally), what you're worried about? Are you worried you won't get 25/25 interviews?
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Nothing about me is rational anymore haha. But actually though you’re right. I just really fell in love with these two schools and the wait till March is killing me.
 
gonnif said:
Wait, these repeated neurotic questions are from someone with those stats? This is way beyond premed nervousness and really needs to be addressed
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Not a fan of Xanax, but this calls for a stat @Goro consult
 
ChymeofPassion said:
You graduated from HYPSM, you have a 3.97, one point from a perfect MCAT, and you already have 14 interviews. Can you explain (remember, rationally), what you're worried about? Are you worried you won't get 25/25 interviews?
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For what it's worth, the "P" in "HYPSM" is not Penn! Maybe that's what he's worried about! 🙂
 
moldydorito said:
Just to make sure I’m understanding this correctly, so penn/Columbia think that people from their respective states are more likely to attend, so they are more like to accept them post interview? This makes me feel poopy since I’m from a small midwestern state without any good med schools :’(
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All kidding aside, you can't possibly be smart enough to have those stats and not realize that you are not going to be discriminated against at Penn for being OOS when you went there for undergrad! Your problem there is going be competing against all the other applicants from Penn undergrad. With your stats, if don't get an A at any top school, it's not going to have anything to do with your state of residence.
 
stuffedicing said:
Is there data anywhere on post-II outcomes for international applicants? For now I just assume it's a decent amount less than OOS % lol
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If you are an international applicant who is good enough to get an interview, treat yourself. Simply as OOS.
 
Mr. Dr. Prof. Patrick said:
As I have stated before, this is medical school applications not Pokemon, you don’t need to catch’em all.
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During a lunch with current med students an interviewee asked, “so what makes _____ a better choice than other schools?”

He/She was pretty shocked when the student said “yeah you know it really doesn’t matter where you go to medical school, just score well on your boards. This school offered free board prep materials and had some cool clubs so I figured why not.”
 
Any idea why 241 NYU OOS were accepted but only 71 enrolled? This was after the free tuition was announced if I am understanding correctly.
 
tri99 said:
During a lunch with current med students an interviewee asked, “so what makes _____ a better choice than other schools?”

He/She was pretty shocked when the student said “yeah you know it really doesn’t matter where you go to medical school, just score well on your boards. This school offered free board prep materials and had some cool clubs so I figured why not.”
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I mean the med student was honest xD
 
dgnsc said:
Any idea why 241 NYU OOS were accepted but only 71 enrolled? This was after the free tuition was announced if I am understanding correctly.
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I do not think you are understanding correctly. The stats you are referring to are the latest available, which are NOT for the class that just started, but for the class that started in 2018. They didn't know tuition was free until it was announced at their White Coat Ceremony! Just imagine how the 170 felt then! 🙂 🙂
 
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dgnsc said:
Any idea why 241 NYU OOS were accepted but only 71 enrolled? This was after the free tuition was announced if I am understanding correctly.
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Free tuition notwithstanding, not everybody wants to move to New York City.

Students still have to pay room and board, BTW
 
KnightDoc said:
I do not think you are understanding correctly. The stats you are referring to are the latest available, which is NOT for the class that just started, but for the class that started in 2018. They didn't know tuition was free until it was announced at their White Coat Ceremony! Just imagine how the 170 felt then! 🙂 🙂
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NYU will hand out ~120 acceptances this year, and interview around 900.
 
ChymeofPassion said:
NYU will hand out ~120 acceptances this year, and interview around 900.
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Oh wow, did they announce they would be interviewing only 900 this year at the interview?
Excited to be attending mine at NYU
 
KnightDoc said:
I do not think you are understanding correctly. The stats you are referring to are the latest available, which are NOT for the class that just started, but for the class that started in 2018. They didn't know tuition was free until it was announced at their White Coat Ceremony! Just imagine how the 170 felt then! 🙂 🙂
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Now just imagine how those who decided against NYU for better aid at a different school felt 🙁 🙁
 
tri99 said:
During a lunch with current med students an interviewee asked, “so what makes _____ a better choice than other schools?”

He/She was pretty shocked when the student said “yeah you know it really doesn’t matter where you go to medical school, just score well on your boards. This school offered free board prep materials and had some cool clubs so I figured why not.”
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This advice is dated. Step 1 is now mandatory P/F.
 
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