Question about reporting Institutional Action -- am I screwed?

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Our professor for a class uses the same homework assignments each year he teaches this class, and posts the homework solutions right after the HW is due. Thus it is not exactly hard to get the solutions for the homework for almost the entire semester. This past semester, however, a large percentage of students (40%+) were called in for suspicion of using the old solution keys on their homework. I was one of the students called in--but in my meeting with my professor and in the email he sent me, he never said anything would happen beyond the meeting, and in our discussion he never said he would do anything past the point of talking to me in person. We didn't even really discuss the incident in the meeting. I thought that was the end of it and went on to earn an A in the class.
However, after the class had ended and after I had taken the final, I received an email saying I was given a 0 on the homework assignment (about 1.4% of the final grade for the class) and that I had to meet with the Associate Dean and watch a presentation and take quizzes about academic integrity. This surprised me but I went into the meeting with the Associate Dean and he said that further violations would result in an immediate suspension of a year from the program. I could have appealed the ruling but I didn't care that much because I had already received an A in the class and I obviously didn't plan on doing anything like this again given the consequences.

My question is, do I have to report this on AMCAS/how should I report it? Should I check with my school first or schools I'm applying to? It doesn't appear on my transcript, only my A does, and I had to sign a letter saying I understood the allegations without admitting guilt, and was told that this letter would be destroyed/deleted after I graduate or after 6 years, whichever comes first (obviously the graduating part has a much higher chance of happening), so this would only really matter for application to programs during my undergrad. Another confounding factor is that I'm a junior--I obviously can't say that this happened a long time ago and that I've grown since then. After reading previous posts on this topic I'm just scared that I've completely screwed over my chances of getting into medical school/MD-PhD just on this one incident. I consider myself to be a competitive applicant otherwise (4.o GPA in an engineering discipline, although my school uses +/- grading and 33 MCAT) and I know that this will result in ADCOMs wondering whether my previous grades were the result of cheating despite that not being the case. Do I report it and talk about it in my personal statement? Or is the IA space reserved for really bad/serious cases of academic dishonesty or probation?

And to all the people who will instinctively reply "Haha kiss medical school goodbye sux 2 be u" I would just like to ask you what you would honestly do in my situation, and whether this one incident should really invalidate all of the work I put into school and making myself a competitive applicant at this point.

Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you.
 
I believe you are supposed to report all incidences like this in which action was taken against you by the institution ("institutional action"), whether they appear on your transcript or not. If it happened very recently, it will be an enormous red flag. I'd like to see what adcoms have to say, but you may need to wait a few years to put this in the past before you apply. Cheating is taken very seriously when evaluating potential future doctors, as cheating your way through medical school can have very real consequences in regard to patient care.
 
Check with your school to see if it is part of your disciplinary file. It probably is, but it is ambiguous from your post particularly the not admitting guilt part.
 
Check with your school to see if it is part of your disciplinary file. It probably is, but it is ambiguous from your post particularly the not admitting guilt part.

Let me reemphasize that OP still needs to inform the schools, even if there is no record. Could he get away with leaving it out? Probably. But it would be unethical - not a great way to start your career. And if schools did end up finding out, it would be the nail in OP's coffin.
 
Let me reemphasize that OP still needs to inform the schools, even if there is no record. Could he get away with leaving it out? Probably. But it would be unethical - not a great way to start your career. And if schools did end up finding out, it would be the nail in OP's coffin.

True, I am just confused as to whether this qualifies as an IA. At my school there is a very formal process for IA that has to be followed by the college, Judicial Affairs, the professor, and the student, i.e. you know that you have one. I was not advocating hiding it, just clarify exactly what happened. I agree, do not lie or even attempt obscure it.
 
I had already included a description of it in the IA section of AMCAS but then I just started reading about how any academic dishonesty is an auto reject for US medical schools until it's 4-5 years post facto and I panicked. I guess my question is really what exactly should I expect will happen? I'm really dead set on MD/PhD so do I kiss top 20 schools goodbye? Do I kiss every school goodbye for years? Should I talk about it/what I learned in the IA section of AMCAS or do I just mention the facts there and talk about what I learned in my personal statement?
 
Did you cheat? If you cheated, were caught, were required to watch a presentation and take a quiz about academic integrity, then that is what you should report. "I cheated by using prior homework keys. I was penalized 1.4% of the grade (the value of the homework assignment). I was required to meet with the dean, view a presentation and take a test about academic integrity. I learned...."

If you did not cheat and were falsely accused, then you need to say, "I was accused of cheating. I was required to meet with the dean and asked to sign a letter acknowledging the accusation without admitting guilt, view a presentation and take a quiz on academic integrity. "
 
100% agree with my sage colleague.


Did you cheat? If you cheated, were caught, were required to watch a presentation and take a quiz about academic integrity, then that is what you should report. "I cheated by using prior homework keys. I was penalized 1.4% of the grade (the value of the homework assignment). I was required to meet with the dean, view a presentation and take a test about academic integrity. I learned...."

If you did not cheat and were falsely accused, then you need to say, "I was accused of cheating. I was required to meet with the dean and asked to sign a letter acknowledging the accusation without admitting guilt, view a presentation and take a quiz on academic integrity. "
 
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