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Hey,

Question about the volume of material in say anatomy in medical school.

Are you required to learn the name of every single muscle, including the origin and insertion points and the actions, of every single muscle in the human body?

Also, how about bones?

Are you required to learn the name of every single bone in the body, including all of the structures on those muscles?

Thanks...
 
In my class you were expected to know the names of bones and important markings such as attachment sites. We didn't have to know every muscle like some of the head ones, but we did have to know most including their attachments and actions.
 
daveynyc said:
Hey,

Question about the volume of material in say anatomy in medical school.

Are you required to learn the name of every single muscle, including the origin and insertion points and the actions, of every single muscle in the human body?

Also, how about bones?

Are you required to learn the name of every single bone in the body, including all of the structures on those muscles?

Thanks...

not really, just like main muscles. think bicepts, pectoralis, quadracepts(which is only one muscle), calf muscle.... thos are really the only ones they test and i think you need know like only several bones, the humerous, the femure, the calf bone.

on a serious note, yes, you are likely going to learn every single muscle of the body as well as action, origin, insertion, innervation, blood supply, etc.

bones... you are going to learn everything as well, even the bumps and grooves such as the bicipital groove of the humerus, greater trochanter of femur, ramus of the mandible, all the foramina in the skull including foramen lacerum, epidcondyles, fossae, ligaments on the bones, etc.

we are going to be doctors, we should at least know this stuff once in our life... and yes i do realize i spelled the muscles in the first paragraph incorrectly.

it's not that bad and quite do-able within the time they alot you for your studies.
 
Anatomy is the subject where you have to memorize everything about everything. And its not just muscles and bones, its blood vessels and nerves and how those innervate muscles. Not to mention clinical applications and specific types of injuries and illnesses. Concepts just won't do. Other subjects are more conceptual though and you don't have to memorize every enzyme or loci (though you do have to know some).
 
I think it varies some from school to school. My school has an intense anatomy class and we did have to learn everything about everything and we were tested that way too. Like the above poster said, this is not limited to muscles and bones, but also vessels, nerves and innervations, and clinical correlations. I thought it was overkill, but in their defense our board scores were good.
 
Agree with StickMe, and perhaps this differs slightly by school. We learned most muscles, but definitely skipped some small intrinsic head muscles, and perhaps a few others. Not sure if we got every single bone... it sure seemed like it at the time, though! Fortunately, we definitely did not even approach learning every labeled nerve adn blood vessel in my Netters - there are a bazillion superficial ones; I can't imagine managing all that volume.

What helped me is reminding myself that the scope is limited - i.e., there are only so many muscles in the forearm, and for the most part (there are definitely anatomical variants, like palmaris longus, etc., but...) they're about the same in everyone. Only so many bones, only so many nerves. It made it seem less overwhelming for me.
 
Yes...to ACE anatomy you need to know everything you mentioned

In reality though I have forgotten almost everything that I don't regularly use. I just refer to things as "arm bone" and "hand bone", it gets some funny looks though.

Additionally:
Anatomy is what we all associate with being a doctor. In reality it is NOT that important as far as our boards are concerned. Anatomy questions make up a VERY small percentage of USMLE Step 1 (LESS than 10%) and are virtually absent from Step 2. This is why it is taught at the begining of medical school because we all forget it once we actually go into medicine.
 
We had to learn everything .....Orgins, Insertions, Innervation, and Actions, blood supply as well as all the bones and attatchment sites,clinical associations like which are more commonly dislocated, fractued, what happens when nerve X is cut at position Y etc. And we had to know them from memory with correct spelling not word banks etc.

Good luck
 
yes you have to learn every single detail but the reality is that you don't ever need to use this knowledge. unless you are a surgeon, and even then they only know the anatomy that they deal with (orthopedic, head and neck, etc).

and anatomy is less than 10% of step 1; and what IS tested is incredibly simplified from what you need to know for 1st-year anatomy.
 
In anatomy, we learned the names of at least 1000 muscles, nerves, bones, etc. in 10 weeks. Plus their function and how they interact with each other. That is 100 parts/week, or 15/day. Plus the embryology, histology, etc..

Plus 1 more lecture course and weekly clinical/physical diagnosis sessions.
 
typeB-md said:
not really, just like main muscles. think bicepts, pectoralis, quadracepts(which is only one muscle), calf muscle.... thos are really the only ones they test and i think you need know like only several bones, the humerous, the femure, the calf bone.

on a serious note, yes, you are likely going to learn every single muscle of the body as well as action, origin, insertion, innervation, blood supply, etc.

bones... you are going to learn everything as well, even the bumps and grooves such as the bicipital groove of the humerus, greater trochanter of femur, ramus of the mandible, all the foramina in the skull including foramen lacerum, epidcondyles, fossae, ligaments on the bones, etc.

we are going to be doctors, we should at least know this stuff once in our life... and yes i do realize i spelled the muscles in the first paragraph incorrectly.

it's not that bad and quite do-able within the time they alot you for your studies.

:laugh:

I was going to ask you where you went to school until I realized you weren't serious. 😀
 
daveynyc said:
Hey,

Question about the volume of material in say anatomy in medical school.

Are you required to learn the name of every single muscle, including the origin and insertion points and the actions, of every single muscle in the human body?

Also, how about bones?

Are you required to learn the name of every single bone in the body, including all of the structures on those muscles?

Thanks...


Yes
 
daveynyc said:
Hey,

Question about the volume of material in say anatomy in medical school.

Are you required to learn the name of every single muscle, including the origin and insertion points and the actions, of every single muscle in the human body?

Also, how about bones?

Are you required to learn the name of every single bone in the body, including all of the structures on those muscles?

Thanks...

About 70% of it all actually. Well, maybe 50%, depending on the curve at your med school 🙂 Sure, I went through anatomy and had to learn all that crap, but do you think I ever really had it down? Nope. Just enough to pass...

In each anatomy block there was one thing I just didn't learn at all. The pelvic floor and all those foramena? Yeah right! The foot? Uhhh, peronal n. injury = foot drop and the ant. talofibular ligament is sprained most commonly. I still remember on my exam "Which of these ligaments protects against eversion of the foot?" and I laughed to myself "Deltoid ligament?! That's in the shoulder!" before I put a slash through that option. Don't worry that much about it. You'll learn what you need to know when you get there...
 
Yeah, you do have to memorize all that stuff, but it's not that bad. I thought it was much easier to learn anatomy than all pathways in metabolism for biochem.
 
Honestly, I think anatomy will be the least of your problems, now if somebody could explain the Cl-/bicarb shift in renal.....
 
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