Question from Goljan RR about Cell Injury

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Tissue Hypoxia results in cell changes that can be reversible or irreversible. One of the irreversible changes is loss of Ca pump and Ca enters the cells. This Ca activates enzymes that destroy various parts of the cells.

Then a few pages later, about coagulation necrosis (which is basically lack of O2 supply to non-brain organs):
Lactic acid builds up and denatures enzymes

Don't understand how you could denature enzymes but also the enzymes are what is responible for breaking the cell down. Confused🙁
 
Also, FA describes necrosis as "enzymatic degradation of a cell"

So confused.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
My understanding of it is like this: apoptosis is regulated but necrosis is not.

Hypoxia is a stressor that can lead to apoptosis and therefore an orderly (and calcium controlled) cell death. However, not all cells are that lucky, and if they die from something else, then you will have necrosis and an inflammatory reaction as the body attempts to deal with the cellular debris.

Why lactic acid would cause it, I'm not sure and don't have the right books with me to answer that question. I haven't started to review path for step 1 yet.
 
My understanding of it is like this: apoptosis is regulated but necrosis is not.

Hypoxia is a stressor that can lead to apoptosis and therefore an orderly (and calcium controlled) cell death. However, not all cells are that lucky, and if they die from something else, then you will have necrosis and an inflammatory reaction as the body attempts to deal with the cellular debris.

Why lactic acid would cause it, I'm not sure and don't have the right books with me to answer that question. I haven't started to review path for step 1 yet.

Thanks for the reply. But what about a myocardial infarction. It's a classic example of coagulative necrosis. But it comes from hypoxia. And hypoxia should cause the stepwise accumulation of reversible and irreversible changes, which also includes calcium influx into the cell.

But I also understand that calcium can cause cyt c release from the mitochondria which is classic apoptosis pathway.

I don't know. Maybe I'm overthinking it.
 
From Big Robbins:

ISCHEMIC AND HYPOXIC INJURYThis is the most common type of cell injury in clinical medicine and has been studied extensively in humans, in experimental animals, and in culture systems. Hypoxia, referring to reduced oxygen availability, may occur in a variety of clinical settings, described earlier. In ischemia, on the other hand, the supply of oxygen and nutrients is decreased most often because of reduced blood flow as a consequence of a mechanical obstruction in the arterial system. It can also be caused by reduced venous drainage. In contrast to hypoxia, during which energy production by anaerobic glycolysis can continue, ischemia compromises the delivery of substrates for glycolysis. Thus, in ischemic tissues, not only is aerobic metabolism compromised but anaerobic energy generation also stops after glycolytic substrates are exhausted, or glycolysis is inhibited by the accumulation of metabolites that would have been removed otherwise by blood flow. For this reason, ischemia tends to cause more rapid and severe cell and tissue injury than does hypoxia in the absence of ischemia.


If ischemia persists, irreversible injury and necrosis ensue. Irreversible injury is associated morphologically with severe swelling of mitochondria, extensive damage to plasma membranes (giving rise to myelin figures) and swelling of lysosomes (see Fig. 1-10C ). Large, flocculent, amorphous densities develop in the mitochondrial matrix. In the myocardium, these are indications of irreversible injury and can be seen as early as 30 to 40 minutes after ischemia. Massive influx of calcium into the cell then occurs, particularly if the ischemic zone is reperfused. Death is mainly by necrosis, but apoptosis also contributes; the apoptotic pathway is probably activated by release of pro-apoptotic molecules from leaky mitochondria. The cell's components are progressively degraded, and there is widespread leakage of cellular enzymes into the extracellular space and, conversely, entry of extracellular macromolecules from the interstitial space into the dying cells. Finally, the dead cells may become replaced by large masses composed of phospholipids in the form of myelin figures. These are then either phagocytosed by leukocytes or degraded further into fatty acids. Calcification of such fatty acid residues may occur, with the formation of calcium soaps.


I believe it's an ischemia vs hypoxia issue that causes the difference you're looking for. Hope this helps.
 
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