What did you guys put for your ethnic identification? What the hell are we? Thanks!!
Question to all Persians
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teefRcool said:
i know right **** i feel like a damn minority, i went to high school in an urban area with mostly all hispanics/african americans and i didnt fall in any kind of minority group!! ima tell ppl at work im white tomorrow theyll probably laugh at me
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"Since ancient times, Persians have used the term Aryan in the ethnic sense to describe their lineage and their language, and this tradition has continued into the present day amongst modern Iranians (Encyclopedia Iranica, p. 681, Arya). In fact, the name Iran is a cognate of Aryan and means "Land of the Aryans."
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dat_student said:
Yeah, but I wouldn't go putting "Aryan" on your dental school application. 😱 It might be taken the wrong way.
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egots said:
NO! Now that you are white you can never know what it is like to feel like a minority even if you have lived in situations where you were a minority!
Oh, you also need to buy some crappy beige dockers and a woven leather belt to wear with your tucked in button up denim shirt. Pair this shirt with your akwardly pleated stone washed jeans when your dockers are dirty. 😎
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might be a silly question, but can egyptians claim to be african americans?teefRcool said:
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i mean technicially if you take african-american literally i guess you could but 1)north african nations usually dont identify themselves with Africa b/c of religion and the strong cultural ties b/c of colonization, and plus by African American they mean black ppl for the omst part, i dont think you would see a white person from Africa say they are African American but maybe im wrong
and dat_student there is no such thing as true aryan anymore so that cant be an arguement for saying we are white, look at irans history so many invasions and influence of other groups that truth be told we are all mixed...
and dat_student there is no such thing as true aryan anymore so that cant be an arguement for saying we are white, look at irans history so many invasions and influence of other groups that truth be told we are all mixed...
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egots said:
Technically, Iranians are also Asians since Iran is in Asia.
P.S. I personally like the name Persia a lot more than Iran.
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egots said:
My ethnicity is Asian for "Social Security Number." I selected "white" for AADSAS because I thought admissions committees wouldn't believe that I am technically Asian.
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teefRcool said:
no ..... no ....... NO! we are not at all a minority group especially when it comes to education and economics. Persians in the US are well educated and very affluent!
dat_student will give you the full stats on this. 😍
So my mom was born and lived Africa for 20 years (Southern Africa), but my dad was born in Mumbai and lived ther for 20 years. Then they got mariied and I was born in London. So what does that make me?!? I still hold British citizenship (of course a perm. resident for 15 years). Am I African American, Asian Pacific?!? The ehtnicity question in my opinion is stupid. If I had my own D-school, I would take the best candidate, but unfortunately that is not always the case. I am Indian. The fact that race need be mentioned is humerous enough. Perhaps I am Aryan b/c Indians are their descendents. Or maybe I should check Asian - Pacific Islander. Technically I am 50% Afirican American b/c my mom was born and raised there. Thousands of Indians left India for Africa to get away from British rule. This does not mean that they were more priveleged or had the resources to obtain a better education. They just simply wanted to have freedom. Does this make them more priveleged than a native African?!? My mom's family (my great grandparents) sacrificed everything they had in Indian to avoid the British empire. So is race really where you were born, what your skin color is, or what environment you were reared in? This is exactly why I think that the ethinicity question is very controvertial in any application, whether it be for employment or for education. On top of that, not choosing to respond would probably look worse. Of course, D-School acceptances are affected by race, but who really is an under represented minority. Techinically almost everyone is because the NAtive Americans (hence the word Native) were the ones here first; then again, the Native Americans were victims of colonistic "genocide." Basically every "group" of peoples had to deal with adversity sometime in their existence. Africans in South Afirca were victimized by the Aparthied. Indians were subjected to British rule. African-Americans had to deal with slavery, not that long ago I must add. In a sense, we are all minorities. It so happened that at the time the North American Continent was colonized, the only peoples that were able to do so had "white" skin. Vice versa, if this conversatino were about D-school in India, I would feel the same way. It is pathetic that race plays a role in the admission process and in society. I don't care if you had purple skin! It amazes me how a counry that believs in equality and freedom of religion can justify ethnicity as admission criteria. Sure, Native Africans were aboslutely tortured as slave laborers, but can't the same be said about descendents of Holocaust survivors? My point is that every "race/ethinicty" has dealt with extreme adversity at one time or another. The society in this country may look upon African-American's as more of a minority than say Asian-Americans, but is that necessarily right?!? The definition of minority in our society tends to be "Black," (what an idiotic word, I don't call you tanning salon goers "toasties"). In my opinion, "our" minority and majority definitions stem from the direct slavery guilt our society feels, and rightfully so. Had it been any other race affected by such an atrocity here in the land of Dubya, they too would be recognized as minorities. It just so happened that the peoples of Africa at the time of slave trade were "black." They very well could have been Russians with white skin. Would we then consider them minorities?!?
The word minority, as used in this application process, is merely a way for those involved, directly or indirectly with slavery, to try and "make it up" to those affected. That is pathetic. It is another form of belittlement.
The word minority, as used in this application process, is merely a way for those involved, directly or indirectly with slavery, to try and "make it up" to those affected. That is pathetic. It is another form of belittlement.
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egots said:
At the end of the reign of the Zand dynasty, Iran was again engulfed in turmoil, and the Russians, under Catherine, again got another opportunity to overrun Iranian lands. Catherine was a confrontational despot whose name sent a shiver down the spine of Europe's strongmen. Following the policy of Peter, she aimed the poisonous Russian needle toward Iran's jugular, i.e. Georgia and the Caucasus. Russian troops under the command of Valerian Zubov crossed the Aras river and threatened parts of Azarbaijan and Gilan. At the same time, another Russian contingent moved toward Lankarân, with the final aim of occupying Rasht. This time, czarist designs were confounded by one of the greatest men in Iranian history, Aqa Mohammad Khan Qajar, who inflicted heavy defeats on the Russians during the course of several critical battles. Aqa Mohammad Khan was also aware of Peter's will and knew that the main threat to Iran was the Russian empire, being the remaining one with the capability to invade Iran, after the Ottomans had been vanquished by Nader. To free the country from such a threat, this force had to be crushed. http://www.iranchamber.com/history/historic_periods.php
i don't know what to say-- white with extra hair?? 😕
