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I am now in the process of applying for nursing program (hopefully, I will get in next Fall 2005). Anyhow, I have been looking into many nursing jobs and I notice that some of them are for "nurse practitioners" while others are for "registered nurses". Aren't they the same? I am really confused because I've always thought that once you become RN, you could pretty much work in any department in a hospital. Can anyone illuminate me about this? Also, another question that I have is how much does a recent grad (RN) make per hour? Does it matter where you receive your nursing education, meaning associate degree vs Bachelor's degree?

thanks everyone 😍
 
Registered Nurse(RN) could either have Associate's degree (ASN) or Bachelor's degree and both are considered RN. They do differ a bit on their wages though.

Nurse practitioner (NP) has the master's degree to boast. RN-ASN can become an NP but he has to get his BSN first.
 
Hildergard said:
I am now in the process of applying for nursing program (hopefully, I will get in next Fall 2005). Anyhow, I have been looking into many nursing jobs and I notice that some of them are for "nurse practitioners" while others are for "registered nurses". Aren't they the same? I am really confused because I've always thought that once you become RN, you could pretty much work in any department in a hospital. Can anyone illuminate me about this? Also, another question that I have is how much does a recent grad (RN) make per hour? Does it matter where you receive your nursing education, meaning associate degree vs Bachelor's degree?

thanks everyone 😍

ADN's and BSN's start at the same base rate. Pay varies from state to state and generally the starting rates are the same. If you want to get your BSN your hospital will most likely pay for it. Not all states are the same; not all hospitals are the same.

MD Office pay is generally much lower, since most docs don't want to pay for nursing skills; they will only hire one RN and the rest will be Medical Assistants -- with one semester of post-HS education. Scary, isn't it! The MA's are taught to take vital signs, give IM/SQ injections, draw blood, and write down what medications the patient is taking. They do not do any patient education and they are not nurses, although the MD's often refer to them as such. I don't know why docs hire MA's; they are uneducated in the nursing process as a whole and do more to confuse the public about the RN's role in healthcare.

Nurse Practitioners, on the other hand, must be at least master's degreed, and are mid-level practitioners. However all that responsibility isn't rewarded as the AMA is doing what it can to keep NP's 'in their place' by keeping wages low. RN's w/5+ year's experience will make more money than a master's degreed NP for the most part, unless you get a really, really good collaborative agreement with really decent docs who understand and accept that NP's practice in the nursing model: Patient education, empathy, and respect for their patients.

PA's are trained in the so-called 'medical model' and must work under the supervision of an attending physician. NP's are not held to this standard as nurses do not report to physicians but to other nurses, or can practice on their own with a collaborative agreement with a physician.
 
Hildergard said:
I am now in the process of applying for nursing program (hopefully, I will get in next Fall 2005). Anyhow, I have been looking into many nursing jobs and I notice that some of them are for "nurse practitioners" while others are for "registered nurses". Aren't they the same? I am really confused because I've always thought that once you become RN, you could pretty much work in any department in a hospital. Can anyone illuminate me about this? Also, another question that I have is how much does a recent grad (RN) make per hour? Does it matter where you receive your nursing education, meaning associate degree vs Bachelor's degree?

thanks everyone 😍


Hourly rate varies. Go to www.salary.com and you get a fair idea of your locale. In AZ starting hospital nurse wages are about $18/hour, and up to about $40/hour. There are some variances, such as if you work nights, pool or agency, nonbenefitted vs. benefitted, and there are pros and cons to each.
 
Thank you all for your replies 😍

I just talked to my (nursing) advisor and she told me that the admission was so competitive even at my school (which is a community college). She also said that there was a 1-year wait! 😱 For other nearby schools that do offer BSN, I can't imagine how long the line would be just to get into nursing program. I really hope that I do get in somewhere next year 🙁 By the way, does anyone know any nursing program that accept transfer students from community colleges? Right now I am in California but I would not mind going out of state for school.

Thanks again guys....
 
out of state fees are outrageous. they are 3X, yes three times more than the in state fees.

i'm also pursuing my associates degree. while i was on the waiting list, i just took classes that would count if i pursue my bachelor's degree. hope this helps
 
Hildergard said:
Thank you all for your replies 😍

I just talked to my (nursing) advisor and she told me that the admission was so competitive even at my school (which is a community college). She also said that there was a 1-year wait! 😱 For other nearby schools that do offer BSN, I can't imagine how long the line would be just to get into nursing program. I really hope that I do get in somewhere next year 🙁 By the way, does anyone know any nursing program that accept transfer students from community colleges? Right now I am in California but I would not mind going out of state for school.

Thanks again guys....

I am not sure which classes transfer, but try Arizona schools. Even our out of state tuition is probably less expensive than California. Try NAU, which doesn't have a big waiting list, if any. WWW.NAU.EDU

I went there as an undergrad. Great school, love the town.
 
I am a NAU nursing grad. It was pretty cheap as I remember. Or just go and get an associates for 1/3 the price.
 
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