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Before defending some of the logic of this ranking, I must first point out that it is still more objective than the "hear-say" that has mostly been used on this thread.
In addition to reasons mentioned above by beemer, I still maintain that there are good justifications to think a med school's overall quality contributes to the program quality (not in a major way but deserves to be taken into account as it is below).
It is not true that rad onc funding and med school funding from the NIH are completely dissociated. The data says otherwise. There is a general correlation whenever this information is available (with some exceptions of course!). Further, higher ranked schools are likely to have more clinical/translational project grants (such as the CTSA) which are multidisciplinary and allow for large trials etc, all resources that may not necessarily exist in lower ranked schools. Finally, top-tier schools may be able to attract top faculty even if their programs is no match, simply due to resources, reputation, research support, and quality of other cancer related services (i.e. surgery, heme/onc, patient databases etc...).
Third top tier schools with mid-tier programs that are on the up swing may have more momentum compared to other programs on the up-swing simply because of the resources available to back them up.
And while med school prestige doesn't equal quality, for the reasons mentioned above, it is nevertheless "a minor" factor that deserves to be incorporated.
Finally, my apologies for leaving out programs, an oversight, but this is meant to be a preliminary starting point with a more objective basis that can hopefully be further modified. And in my humble opinion, I submit that it is a more logical alternative to many of the subjective hear-say lists mentioned above.
1-10
1 MD Anderson
2 Harvard
3 MSKCC
4 UCSF
5 UPenn
6 U Michigan
7 Johns Hopkins
8 Wash U
9 Stanford
10 Yale
11-20
11 Duke
12 U Chicago
13 Columbia
14 U of Washington
15 U Wisconsin
16 Mayo
17 Vanderblit
18 UCLA
19 U Maryland
20 U of Pittsburgh
21-30
21 Cleveland Clinic
22 NYU
23 Ohio State
24 Emory
25 U Minnesota
26 Northwestern
27 UNC Chapel Hill
28 U of Iowa
29 UCSD
30 Thomas Jefferson U
31-40
31 Baylor
32 Mount Sinai
33 U Florida
34 U Colorado
35 U of Alabama
36 UT Southwestern
37 University of Virginia
38 Cornell (Weill) - Queens
39 U Rochester
40 UC Davis
41-50
41 OHSU
42 U Southern California
43 UC Irvine
44 Fox-Chase (Temple)
45 U South Florida (Moffit)
46 Georgetown U
47 Albert Einstein
48 Tufts
49 SUNY upstate
In addition to reasons mentioned above by beemer, I still maintain that there are good justifications to think a med school's overall quality contributes to the program quality (not in a major way but deserves to be taken into account as it is below).
It is not true that rad onc funding and med school funding from the NIH are completely dissociated. The data says otherwise. There is a general correlation whenever this information is available (with some exceptions of course!). Further, higher ranked schools are likely to have more clinical/translational project grants (such as the CTSA) which are multidisciplinary and allow for large trials etc, all resources that may not necessarily exist in lower ranked schools. Finally, top-tier schools may be able to attract top faculty even if their programs is no match, simply due to resources, reputation, research support, and quality of other cancer related services (i.e. surgery, heme/onc, patient databases etc...).
Third top tier schools with mid-tier programs that are on the up swing may have more momentum compared to other programs on the up-swing simply because of the resources available to back them up.
And while med school prestige doesn't equal quality, for the reasons mentioned above, it is nevertheless "a minor" factor that deserves to be incorporated.
Finally, my apologies for leaving out programs, an oversight, but this is meant to be a preliminary starting point with a more objective basis that can hopefully be further modified. And in my humble opinion, I submit that it is a more logical alternative to many of the subjective hear-say lists mentioned above.
1-10
1 MD Anderson
2 Harvard
3 MSKCC
4 UCSF
5 UPenn
6 U Michigan
7 Johns Hopkins
8 Wash U
9 Stanford
10 Yale
11-20
11 Duke
12 U Chicago
13 Columbia
14 U of Washington
15 U Wisconsin
16 Mayo
17 Vanderblit
18 UCLA
19 U Maryland
20 U of Pittsburgh
21-30
21 Cleveland Clinic
22 NYU
23 Ohio State
24 Emory
25 U Minnesota
26 Northwestern
27 UNC Chapel Hill
28 U of Iowa
29 UCSD
30 Thomas Jefferson U
31-40
31 Baylor
32 Mount Sinai
33 U Florida
34 U Colorado
35 U of Alabama
36 UT Southwestern
37 University of Virginia
38 Cornell (Weill) - Queens
39 U Rochester
40 UC Davis
41-50
41 OHSU
42 U Southern California
43 UC Irvine
44 Fox-Chase (Temple)
45 U South Florida (Moffit)
46 Georgetown U
47 Albert Einstein
48 Tufts
49 SUNY upstate
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