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Ralph is going off on Twitter calling low tier chief residents Narcissists for wanting a job

btw: Ralph lives in a $2 million Chicago penthouse

(also steinberg’s house is also public knowledge, but I see ur point)
Goes well with his previous rantings about us being overpaid as a specialty and how many pediatricians we could fund with a pay cut
 
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The long standing Chair of Radiation Oncology at one of the most prestigious centers in the United States who lives in a 2 million penthouse with massive HOA fees in downtown Chicago "had to sell a home in Indiana"

this man trying to play the humble card, okay....
What a @#$&



 


is this a joke that is just going over my head? Or is he just going scorched earth

Definitely a joke, and an amazing joke at that. BK is a very kind and compassionate person (at least in my experience and some of the people I know), and to call him a narcissist was hilarious.

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Ralph is going off on Twitter calling low tier chief residents Narcissists for wanting a job

Who are you calling “low tier”? Do you understand that hypocritical notions of pedigree/tier are exactly what people like Ralph derive their self worth from? You know, those people in our field that can’t go to sleep at night unless other rad onc’s tell them 3-4 times how wonderful they must be because they trained at a MDA or MSKCC. If you knew those chief residents, you’d realize they’re easily the equal of residents of so-called “top tier” programs, without the ego.

Don’t be like Ralph.
 
Who are you calling “low tier”? Do you understand that hypocritical notions of pedigree/tier are exactly what people like Ralph derive their self worth from? You know, those people in our field that can’t go to sleep at night unless other rad onc’s tell them 3-4 times how wonderful they must be because they trained at a MDA or MSKCC. If you knew those chief residents, you’d realize they’re easily the equal of residents of so-called “top tier” programs, without the ego.

Don’t be like Ralph.

Fair fair ...

(i went to a "low tier" program myself and am doing just fine now; we have the privelege at these programs to avoid kissing the boomer asses)
 
I don't blame those guys for making a lot of money. Good for them for building successful practices- they should be rewarded for it. 0

I absolutely blame them for shutting the door on the next generation and then denying they ever did so.

Yep. This whole thing can be summed up as a bunch of people who worked hard and got rewarded for it (and good for them!) making sure they squeeze every last drop out of the field and exploit younger physicians to make sure we never have the same opportunities they did.

Props to Ralph for throwing out “science”. Astro would fund a study asking if the physicist farted during shooting of the QA how much error should be accounted for in the calculation, but could care less about (maybe even deliberately not want to look at) studying its own job market. But ASTRo and SCAROPs interest is to wear us down as much as possible to maximize their gains. Who cares if the work force is 50% too big for the need in 5 or 10 years? Ralph or any SCAROP chair can parlay that to administration by boasting how cheap they get labor, their salaries won’t be cut. And we really need to make sure physicist flatulence is accounted for in QA too, I’m thinking red journal with an invited editorial.

Field is a bear market with those getting in early squeezing everything they can from new participants because they have everything to gain and nothing to lose. I’m sure the increase in “fellowships” has been terrible for department budgets and productivity metrics 🙄
 
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The long standing Chair of Radiation Oncology at one of the most prestigious centers in the United States who lives in a 2 million penthouse with massive HOA fees in downtown Chicago "had to sell a home in Indiana"

this man trying to play the humble card, okay....
The fact that he feels the need to downplay his financial success is telling.

The way that he attempts to downplay his financial success ironically adds some credence to his claim that he doesn't understand how to use Twitter. For Twitter, a platform that solely exists to engender virtue signaling for insecure regular people and bolster the public persona of celebrities, this attempt at virtue signaling (the old, "I don't care about money, I only care about science therefore I'm better than you" routine) is especially weaksauce.

You sold a home in Indiana Ralph? Show us your tax returns and your investment holdings. Demonstrate your fealty to the science by not accumulating wealth and donating anything in excess of what you need for a modest standard of living back to the university, the same way those of the church do.

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Fair fair ...

(i went to a "low tier" program myself and am doing just fine now; we have the privelege at these programs to avoid kissing the boomer asses)
Fairly a certain a low tier chief this year gonna be >>>> a new grad at sloane or mdacc here fairly shortly
 


On a separate topic, does anyone think communication like this from an examiner is inappropriate? It's really nice of him to say, but KO was my examiner this year - he is clearly biased and is publically admitting it. We are not supposed to communicate with the examiners after the exam day, and I would hope that rule goes both ways.

The whole thing further points to the high level of subjectivity of this awful (IMO) exam.
 


On a separate topic, does anyone think communication like this from an examiner is inappropriate? It's really nice of him to say, but KO was my examiner this year - he is clearly biased and is publically admitting it. We are not supposed to communicate with the examiners after the exam day, and I would hope that rule goes both ways.

The whole thing further points to the high level of subjectivity of this awful (IMO) exam.

Wait...was KO her examiner? This seriously concerns me (both on being twitter friends with the examinee and the subjectiveness of looking good playing a role in passing)
 
The fact that he feels the need to downplay his financial success is telling.

The way that he attempts to downplay his financial success ironically adds some credence to his claim that he doesn't understand how to use Twitter. For Twitter, a platform that solely exists to engender virtue signaling for insecure regular people and bolster the public persona of celebrities, this attempt at virtue signaling (the old, "I don't care about money, I only care about science therefore I'm better than you" routine) is especially weaksauce.

You sold a home in Indiana Ralph? Show us your tax returns and your investment holdings. Demonstrate your fealty to the science by not accumulating wealth and donating anything in excess of what you need for a modest standard of living back to the university, the same way those of the church do.

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I absolutely agree. The part that bothers me about Ralph is that a good chunk of us have great basic science backgrounds. With about 25% of us having a PhD and another chunk having significant lab experience, he of all people should know how bleak a career in basic science is. I certainly saw it and am not the only one among us. When I started college years ago, the NIH payline was 20-25%. There were many talented MD/PhDs and PhDs doing some amazing work, without the grant funding barriers we have today. Over the two decades, you have seen an increase in graduate students with a decrease in payline, resulting in a glut of underemployed PhDs. Analogous to that, we saw this in pathology, and this is happening in real time in radiation oncology.

We need our current leadership to go, including Ralph, all of whom have been fueled by greed and destroyed this amazing field.
 
I absolutely agree. The part that bothers me about Ralph is that a good chunk of us have great basic science backgrounds. With about 25% of us having a PhD and another chunk having significant lab experience, he of all people should know how bleak a career in basic science is. I certainly saw it and am not the only one among us. When I started college years ago, the NIH payline was 20-25%. There were many talented MD/PhDs and PhDs doing some amazing work, without the grant funding barriers we have today. Over the two decades, you have seen an increase in graduate students with a decrease in payline, resulting in a glut of underemployed PhDs. Analogous to that, we saw this in pathology, and this is happening in real time in radiation oncology.

We need our current leadership to go, including Ralph, all of whom have been fueled by greed and destroyed this amazing field.
If you are medical scientist and things don’t work out in basic science, don’t you want a specialty that will offer backup clinical employment (radonc should be your last choice)
 
If you are medical scientist and things don’t work out in basic science, don’t you want a specialty that will offer backup clinical employment (radonc should be your last choice)
This all day. I wished I knew this years ago when I was a naive medical student who was told that with hard work and an alacrity for basic sciences (like so many of us!) that I would get the perfect physician-scientist job. I got the ball rolling in getting into this field, right before the Chirag Shah's editorial was published. If I had a time machine, I would go back and tell my young self to do something else.
 
Wait...was KO her examiner? This seriously concerns me (both on being twitter friends with the examinee and the subjectiveness of looking good playing a role in passing)

He was AN examiner. I don't know if he specifically examined her but even so, it's a bad look. He was in the room where examinees were discussed and obviously has a bias. This is why the post-examination communication rules exist.
 
I’m telling ya...the new generation of leaders are gold

also someone tell Evansville to stop positing on ASTRO...enough spam damn it
 
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Someone needs to take grandpa's computer away... It goes to show that while you may be successful in one aspect in the world, that you are a complete idiot in the rest of it. Ralph, do us a favor and retire.


I am so disappointed in Ralph and how he represents us on a public platform. He is emblematic of the generation of people in leadership positions who brought us to absolute rock bottom.

Fortunately, catfish look for food on the bottom, so maybe this is what we deserve.
 
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Someone needs to take grandpa's computer away... It goes to show that while you may be successful in one aspect in the world, that you are a complete idiot in the rest of it. Ralph, do us a favor and retire.

How successful has Ralph been REALLY. What hath Rad Onc wrought from Ralph. Not much I say. I mean he hasn't hurt it. But for all his yelling and fist-shaking-at-sky about rad onc needing to... evolve I guess?... what has he done. He got be a chair. And have his name published in eleventy billion patient-inconsequential papers. And make a profit on a house sale in Indiana. Yippee.
 
Imagine what poor Uchicago faculty and residents are thinking right now. They all want this senile old man to shut his trap and delete his twitter account but because he's the chair, they cannot say anything. Remember, ralph got into rad onc when it was just as easy to match into FM. It's showing right now.
 
Imagine what poor Uchicago faculty and residents are thinking right now. They all want this senile old man to shut his trap and delete his twitter account but because he's the chair, they cannot say anything. Remember, ralph got into rad onc when it was just as easy to match into FM. It's showing right now.
He's got 2 houses to choose from in Lincoln park to retire to, assuming he didn't sell them for $5m+ like he planned to a few years ago


Edit:. Looks like one sold for $4.4m in 2018. Imagine how many pediatrician faculty salaries at UC that could pay for
 
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He's got 2 houses to choose from in Lincoln park to retire to, assuming he didn't sell them for $5m+ like he planned to a few years ago


Edit:. Looks like one sold for $4.4m in 2018. Imagine how many pediatrician faculty salaries at UC that could pay for

what a punk. Crying about money when he is rich AF

Deserves to be humiliated and exposed
 
Oligomet article for everyone.
MCQs coming in the next OLA...lol...

 
i think you should out that in public (twitter). or someone should
Hypocrite boomer gonna hypocrite boomer.

Get called out on Twitter, either call the other person names and refuse to engage or else gaslight and remind everyone that the real problem is the greedy selfish new grads who have the audacity to dare think they should collect anywhere close to even half of the professional fees that are billed for their services. Who are these new punks with 400k in student loan debt that turn their nose up at 300k salaries when the minimum wage in America is.... the minimum wage is.... the minimum wage is.... (out of touch boomer furiously googles what minimum wage is...)

For real why is this dude famous?

Maybe check out his Wikipedia page! LK got cyber bullied. PW saves the field from incompetent rad oncs who forgot esoterica of signaling pathways, and RW had to sell an extra home to put food on the table after a career extolling the virtues of poverty and dedication to the science above all.

PASS.THE.TORCH.
 
Hypocrite boomer gonna hypocrite boomer.

Get called out on Twitter, either call the other person names and refuse to engage or else gaslight and remind everyone that the real problem is the greedy selfish new grads who have the audacity to dare think they should collect anywhere close to even half of the professional fees that are billed for their services. Who are these new punks with 400k in student loan debt that turn their nose up at 300k salaries when the minimum wage in America is.... the minimum wage is.... the minimum wage is.... (out of touch boomer furiously googles what minimum wage is...)



Maybe check out his Wikipedia page! LK got cyber bullied. PW saves the field from incompetent rad oncs who forgot esoterica of signaling pathways, and RW had to sell an extra home to put food on the table after a career extolling the virtues of poverty and dedication to the science above all.

PASS.THE.TORCH.

Probably sold it to set up trust fund for a grandkid...

he def has more than enough for himself
 
Maybe check out his Wikipedia page!

I was like, "You gotta be kiddin' me."

Dr W's Wikipedia page seems to have been first entered in 2013. It was authored and heavily edited by an anonymous user with IP address of 71.201.16.96...

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This geolocates to a location in Avondale, likely a private address (Comcast Internet) although IP geolocation is not reliably too precise...

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None of this data would conflict with the theory that Ralph created his own Wikipedia page. The language is pretty stilted and a little too "advertise-y" for the usual objective Wikipedia entry. I smell a little bit of a rat but of course can't be 100% sure.
 
I was like, "You gotta be kiddin' me."

Dr W's Wikipedia page seems to have been first entered in 2013. It was authored and heavily edited by an anonymous user with IP address of 71.201.16.96...

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This geolocates to a location in Avondale, likely a private address (Comcast Internet) although IP geolocation is not reliably too precise...

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None of this data would conflict with the theory that Ralph created his own Wikipedia page. The language is pretty stilted and a little too "advertise-y" for the usual objective Wikipedia entry. I smell a little bit of a rat but of course can't be 100% sure.
With more digging, "someone" (user now deleted) PAID?? to get Ralph's Wikipedia page??

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I think someone should really call him out on Twitter for paying for his own Wikipedia page. That's pretty pathetic.
 
I think someone should really call him out on Twitter for paying for his own Wikipedia page. That's pretty pathetic.

Someone may have done it on his behalf. I've seen this in academics before. The department pays someone or asks residents to add wikipedia entries for their faculty. It's cheap/free advertising. I've gotten spam e-mails from people offering this service. Apparently there's some amount of art in crafting the entry so it sticks in Wikipedia and doesn't just get deleted by the moderators.
 
Someone may have done it on his behalf. I've seen this in academics before. The department pays someone or asks residents to add wikipedia entries for their faculty. It's cheap/free advertising. I've gotten spam e-mails from people offering this service. Apparently there's some amount of art in crafting the entry so it sticks in Wikipedia and doesn't just get deleted by the moderators.
Yeah I doubt Ralph is savvy enough to do this himself. It is more likely UChicago or a different entity that did it.

Does Ralph get honoraria from industry? Does he have upcoming speaking engagements? Given the timestamps, I would expect him to have some industry-sponsored event in the next 6 months and they want to make sure something shows up on Wikipedia when potential clients Google him.

This is pure speculation on my part but...money drives everything, especially people like Ralph "methinks thou dost protest too much" Weichselbaum.
 
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