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Guys, come on. Let’s give credit where credit is due. They totally fixed the job market problem in the 90s. They did it by making residency a year longer. Boom, job market fixed! Expect similarly brilliant ”solutions” this time around.
Make residency another year longer! We'll just call it fellowship instead.
And yeah of course residents are contacting practices as PGY-2 and cold calling up a storm. All the advice they get is to "network". Networking doesn't create more jobs, just more competition in stress for what remains out there.
A lot of programs also closed. Also they were just facing an overexpansion, not a problem with demand/utilization.Make residency another year longer! We'll just call it fellowship instead.
And yeah of course residents are contacting practices as PGY-2 and cold calling up a storm. All the advice they get is to "network". Networking doesn't create more jobs, just more competition in stress for what remains out there.
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And yeah of course residents are contacting practices as PGY-2 and cold calling up a storm. All the advice they get is to "network". Networking doesn't create more jobs, just more competition in stress for what remains out there.
Debate on the objective truth of oversupply aside, we've basically created an extension of the "application arms race" seen when medical students apply to residency. In a fixed system (# of residency spots available) there is a natural "competition creep" as students learn from previous generations how to game their CV and then shotgun apply EVERYWHERE.
Congratulations, academic chairs - you've brought this system to jobs! Now we have a huge number of historically very competitive and savvy students-turned-residents who are only given the advice to "network". What is networking?
- talking up places as soon as you start residency (cold calls, emails)
- leveraging social media to your cause
- hitting up the alumni network and current attendings
- sending your CV to HUNDREDS of people
And so on. Cool!
Hunger games. This will inevitably become ugly.
Hunger games. This will inevitably become ugly.
Totally agree. Again, oversupply and unemployment aside, this will counterintuitively cost departments/practices time and money. They will all court the most attractive applicants first, spending time and money interviewing them and inviting them for site visits. When the first wave commits to the places they're actually interested in, departments/practices will have to repeat the process - over and over.
District 13, here we come!
I cannot get over how sh***y this field is
Are you kidding me?
Students stay away!
so young and already so savvy... How are we encouraging this slithering sycophantic behavior in young people? Toot the party horn and you'll move up. Wanna throw up.
i love you so much!!! (wanna hate you cuz you said what I wanted to say, and so much better)The young woke socialist rad onc twttier bully-mob occupying the junior faculty academic positions in the oversaturated urban hellscapes has never made me more happy to be practicing in middle of nowhere (an underserved area even! Remember when that was important?). Lack of biryanis is a small price to pay to be as far removed from this noxious cloud of doxx-proof smugness and virtue-signalling as possible.
These people are so "brave." Writing about racial justice in rad onc in relation to a killing of an unarmed black man committing petty crime by a known terrible cop, a very rare event by statistics, and certainly something that has absolutely nothing to do with rad onc. Regardless, it's obviously our most important issue and it's shameful than anyone would try to discuss any other issues. We're an evidence based field after all. Evidence suggests we have a massive problem of racism and violence against minorities in radiation oncology. Well done. So brave! What exactly was it you were fearing would happen to you by speaking out on the obviously-and-universally-agreed-on-by-literally-everyone reprehensible George Floyd killing and supporting the BLM political movement? Your evil white racist overlords in academia would have fired you (the only people in America who thought the killing was justified apparently)? So brave. Really, well done.
Just when you think they can't take the virtue signalling to any higher of a vomit-inducing level...
Can't wait to get through boards and never attend an ASTRO meeting ever again.
This is an amazing post via ROHub from Daniel Flynn:
I wish he would weigh in on the current crisis. Would carry a lot of weightThis is an amazing post via ROHub from Daniel Flynn:
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Flynn... Davis... Hussey... if they had a say/were alive, they wouldn't put up with this silly obvious oversupply s*&t. My worry is Flynn is hearkening to, and believes is still extant, a relative age of reason. That age is gone with the wind. People will not do the right thing anymore for a nameless fellow human unless they're about to lose an eye or a leg or a dollar.
I really would prefer we not go down the road of leveraging Twitter for jobs...but I guess she opened the box.
*sigh*
How I foresee myself coming across in new world order:I really would prefer we not go down the road of leveraging Twitter for jobs...but I guess she opened the box.
*sigh*
"Why should you offer me a rad onc job? Because I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me! Just check my twitter and IG feed."
Meanwhile, the above.
Gents, and certain ladies too, many of us are done for.
I don't know if I can't compete or my CTZ will be over-stimulated if I try to compete. Kinda like that girl in 'Knives Out.'
How I foresee myself coming across in new world order:
"Why should you offer me a rad onc job? Because I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me! Just check my twitter and IG feed."
Meanwhile, the above.
Gents, and certain ladies too, many of us are done for.
I don't know if I can't compete or my CTZ will be over-stimulated if I try to compete. Kinda like that girl in 'Knives Out.'
Guess I'm gonna have to pull the trigger on my YouTube channel with 2 minute contouring tips (GTV, not cheekbones) sponsored by BANG Energy Drinks
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Imagine a future where your IG and TWITTER wasnt up to par, you didn’t at the right people, not enough hashtags, didn’t show enough leg or abs, you didn’t butter up the right people, your marketing was just weak and should have hired a consultant. NO JOB FOR YOU. Some very intetesting times are ahead.
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I didn't necessarily like her initial post, but gotta give it to her. That is funny LMAO
I skipped How To Be a Funny Doctor class in med school. Dammit!I didn't necessarily like her initial post, but gotta give it to her. That is funny LMAO
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Was required viewing in our med school! I was more a The Doctor kinda guy. Kids interested in rad onc: check out the (relatively negative) portrayal of rad onc in this movie! URM rad onc, and FMG, however. (Spoiler alert: XRT fails for his LC.. and in fact for every major character in the movie... and he has to have surgical salvage. But his soul is salvaged in the process!)
This is an amazing post via ROHub from Daniel Flynn:
Saw that this morning and felt the same, however it would be nice to see his opinion and thoughts about NOW. All of the material and data, while relevant, is from the 1990s. Clearly it's worse now but without extrapolation, it's kind of "cool story bro."
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Seriously, if someone can't figure out how to match rad onc in the current #spots >>> #applicants environment aren't we all better off in the long run just letting them match into IM or something else?
I would love to ask one of these ACRO gaslighters that given the current grim prognosis for the specialty due to the lack of real leadership, declining utilization, increasing grad numbers and hypofraction would you recommend going into rad onc to one of your own family members? lol
I would love to ask one of these ACRO gaslighters that given the current grim prognosis for the specialty due to the lack of real leadership, declining utilization, increasing grad numbers and hypofraction would you recommend going into rad onc to one of your own family members? lol
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Wow - even Ralph thinks ASTRO/"the leadership" is out of touch now. Well, we can disagree on what makes them out of touch...but as long as we all realize it together now...
Paul Harari’s son apparently matched in Im.Seriously, if someone can't figure out how to match rad onc in the current #spots >>> #applicants environment aren't we all better off in the long run just letting them match into IM or something else?
I would love to ask one of these ACRO gaslighters that given the current grim prognosis for the specialty due to the lack of real leadership, declining utilization, increasing grad numbers and hypofraction would you recommend going into rad onc to one of your own family members? lol
Edit: this may be innacurate.
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Wow - even Ralph thinks ASTRO/"the leadership" is out of touch now. Well, we can disagree on what makes them out of touch...but as long as we all realize it together now...
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Ralph has finally drank the SDN kool-aid! "out of touch" "canary in the coal mine"
SDN did it first!
Paul Harari’s son apparently matched in Im.
Another big name's son matched interventional radiology.
Another big name's son matched interventional radiology.
My old department chair's son (not Harari or what I would consider a "big" name) matched into IM.
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Paul Harari’s son apparently matched in Im.
I believe he is in radonc per the med student spreadsheet
Ralph could fund every resident this year to go to Astro with his salary and still have enough to be paid like a pediatrician... Sounds like a win win to meWow - even Ralph thinks ASTRO/"the leadership" is out of touch now. Well, we can disagree on what makes them out of touch...but as long as we all realize it together now...
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Love this idea.Ralph could fund every resident this year to go to Astro with his salary and still have enough to be paid like a pediatrician... Sounds like a win win to me
Paul Harari’s son apparently matched in Im.
Edit: this may be innacurate.
i think he matched at Wisconsin rad onc
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No, but I do love me some lemmiwinks.Anyone watch this?
this type of thing has already played a prominent role in the residency matchWe're now in the era where social media presence will be used as a tool to separate applicants for attending jobs from one another. What a sad, sad day we've reached.
Can Steve Hahn come back to academics? Some people say...
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Now THIS is the Twitter war I think we all want to see
I've looked everywhere for this high quality, pure FDA tobacco but its always sold out at my corner store. Maybe Ralph's right that they're selling too much of the stuff.
Puff Barr sound about right.I've looked everywhere for this high quality, pure FDA tobacco but its always sold out at my corner store. Maybe Ralph's right that they're selling too much of the stuff.
Now THIS is the Twitter war I think we all want to see
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Nice job lemmiwinks! Appreciate you and MROGA on Twitter
Btw sue Evans response confirmed my theory. She is gaslighter in Chief at Yale lmao
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Hopefully those urorads folks have a backup plan....
Hopefully those urorads folks have a backup plan....
Treat nodes on everybody?
Treat nodes on everybody?
ASTRO choosing wisely again making all of the best decisions for patients /s
Choose wisely on fractionation sure, but when can we see some group start a:
"Choosing Wisely: Practice Location (or why your bill is 10X the cost of the center down the road despite the same therapy)"
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Can’t wait for this gem to hit the guidelines
ASTRO choosing wisely again making all of the best decisions for patients /s
Choose wisely on fractionation sure, but when can we see some group start a:
"Choosing Wisely: Practice Location (or why your bill is 10X the cost of the center down the road despite the same therapy)"
ASTRO is one step away from announcing academics are better than everyone else and thus we get to charge more see my NCDB/SEER study! I think that "one step" will be taking away these reimbursements and then they may be tempted to come out and just flat out say "C'mon, ya'll know academics are better. You need to pay extra for our expertise when giving radiation for low risk prostate cancer."
I hope I am dead wrong, but I've seen reluctance of main centers to refer even to their own satellites, let alone another hospital.