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The following are ERAS data as of 11/9 for diagnostic radiology.

NUMBER OF APPLICANTS
Grad TypeERAS 2016ERAS 2017ERAS 2018ERAS 2019ERAS 2020ERAS 2021
DO151218238265274276
IMG557601552462478496
MD9361,0731,1881,1141,0361,116
Overall1,6441,8921,9781,8411,7881,888

NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED PER APPLICANT
Grad TypeERAS 2016ERAS 2017ERAS 2018ERAS 2019ERAS 2020ERAS 2021
DO48.6252.2362.9867.0369.7769.52
IMG52.8652.2549.7162.6360.0367.28
MD44.4647.0948.1753.3355.9856.65
Overall47.6949.3250.3857.6459.1761.32

NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS RECEIVED PER PROGRAM
Grad TypeERAS 2016ERAS 2017ERAS 2018ERAS 2019ERAS 2020ERAS 2021
DO41.7163.2682.8194.98103.34103.16
IMG167.30174.46151.59154.74155.10178.47
MD236.44280.72316.19317.70313.47338.06
Overall445.44518.43550.59567.42571.91619.14

The following are corresponding NRMP data for diagnostic radiology.
20162017201820192020
Total positions11681090109911171146
US MD Senior applicants (who preferred this specialty + not preferred)734+74=808706+210=916767+238=1005721+206=927712+161=873
Other applicants (who preferred this specialty + not preferred)486+108=594495+128=623522+132=654509+127=636407+98=505
Total applicants14021539165915631378
Positions filled by US MD Seniors754740760738710
Positions filled by other applicants360328329361401
Positions filled total11141068108910991111
Percent positions filled95.498.099.198.496.9
Percent positions filled by US MD seniors64.667.969.866.161.9
Positions per US senior applicant (PPUSA)1.451.191.091.201.31
Positions per US senior applicant who preferred this specialty (PPUSAWPTS)1.591.541.431.551.61
Percent of US MD Senior applicants to this specialty who matched to this specialty93.380.875.679.681.3
Match rate of US MD Seniors by preferred specialty98.088.995.5
Match rate of US DO Seniors by preferred specialty89.981.091.8
Match rate of US IMGs by preferred specialty64.452.368.3
Match rate of non-US IMGs by preferred specialty57.143.963.2

My bottom line guess based on the data is that this year will have a US MD Senior match rate in the low to mid 90s, the position fill rate will be in the high 90s, and the percentage of positions filled by US MD seniors will be in the mid to high 60s. Essentially, there have been minor fluctuations over the past 5 years. No worrisome trends, aside from the fact that applicants of all kinds continue to submit increasing numbers of applications. ERAS is getting fat for no reason other than hype about competitiveness and the need to one-up the competition in the absence of an application cap.
 
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It's remarkable that DR maintains its level of competitiveness despite having 10 seats for every 6 US Seniors. I can't think of any other specialty with this pattern. For reference, specialties with a similar ratio include Peds, Psych, and PM&R.

...why? Where's the pressure coming from that pushes the median board score into the 240s, for example? Why is rads such an outlier in this regard?
 

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It's remarkable that DR maintains its level of competitiveness despite having 10 seats for every 6 US Seniors. I can't think of any other specialty with this pattern. For reference, specialties with a similar ratio include Peds, Psych, and PM&R.

...why? Where's the pressure coming from that pushes the median board score into the 240s, for example? Why is rads such an outlier in this regard?

Am I reading this wrong? 1146 total positions, 1116 US MD applicants. Sounds like that's pretty close to 1 seat for every US senior. Where you are getting 10 seats for every 6 US seniors from?
 
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Am I reading this wrong? 1146 total positions, 1116 US MD applicants. Sounds like that's pretty close to 1 seat for every US senior. Where you are getting 10 seats for every 6 US seniors from?
Most recent charting outcomes has 712 US seniors preferring rads who applied for 1146 spots
 

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It's correct, he adds together the 712 preferring rads with the other 161 using it as a backup

Sorry, I'm just a little confused still. 712 + 161 = 873, which is still far below the 1116 US MD applicants stated above.
 

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Sorry, I'm just a little confused still. 712 + 161 = 873, which is still far below the 1116 US MD applicants stated above.
Must be a couple hundred people who had planned to rank DR programs as backups but ended up leaving them off their ranklist? The numbers I'd look at are the number submitting a ranklist with DR at the top, so the 712 number
 

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Must be a couple hundred people who had planned to rank DR programs as backups but ended up leaving them off their ranklist? The numbers I'd look at are the number submitting a ranklist with DR at the top, so the 712 number
Ophtho and uro applicants who end up matching their preferred specialty?
 

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Must be a couple hundred people who had planned to rank DR programs as backups but ended up leaving them off their ranklist? The numbers I'd look at are the number submitting a ranklist with DR at the top, so the 712 number
There are multiple possible reasons to account for the difference between the ERAS number of MD applicants to DR (1036 in 2020) and the NRMP number of US MD Senior applicants who ranked DR (873 in 2020, including those who had DR as only choice, first choice, and not first choice).

First, the ERAS number includes MD grads: MDs who have already graduated previously and are no longer enrolled in medical school. Per NRMP in 2020, there were 37 such MD Grads who ranked a PGY-2 DR program.

Second, the ERAS number may include
  • noncompetitive applicants: applied but did not receive any DR interviews
  • late deciders and backup appliers:
    • applied but withdrew or turned down interviews in favor of another specialty
    • applied and interviewed but did not rank any DR programs in favor of another specialty
    • applied and interviewed but matched to urology or ophthalmology and then had to withdraw from the NRMP
I for one have always been surprised at the size of the discrepancy as well as the number of people ERAS says cross-apply to different specialties. In ERAS 2019, out of 1628 MD or DO DR applicants, this was the number that also applied to other specialties:
  • internal medicine categorical: 350 (21%)
  • anesthesiology: 234
  • family medicine: 155
  • radiation oncology: 153
  • dermatology: 144
  • neurology: 114
  • general surgery categorical: 113
  • orthopedics: 111
  • emergency medicine: 100
  • physical medicine/rehab: 97
  • pathology: 64
  • psychiatry: 56
  • obgyn: 34
  • otolaryngology: 18
  • preventive medicine: 18
  • nuclear medicine: 10 (out of 11 nucs applicants)
I imagine the rate of cross-specialty application is lower for US MDs but these numbers are just crazy high to begin with, including more than one-third of non-IMG rad onc applicants also applying to radiology. https://www.aamc.org/media/8346/download
 
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