random epiphany. In need of advice

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Are you so serious? I have been there, nothing rural about it in my book.

Ok I said somewhat 🙂. But it isn't in Harlem, it's in Nassau County where I grew up. Old Westbury to be exact. I don't consider it rural honestly, but for someone not having been to NY, NY it could be somewhat unexpected. There's not much to do there and it's really expensive, but the LIRR can take you to the city easily.
 
OP - stop trolling, spend a year to shadow more DOs, MDs, and podiatrists to compare and feel the difference in actual practice. It seems like you need that extra shadowing. Besides, volunteer at some major hospitals, and learn who they call "physician" if you wanna be one. Dentists also do surgery but they're not called physicians. There's nothing wrong being or not being called as physician. It's a name given to the professional.

Best of luck.
 
OP - stop trolling, spend a year to shadow more DOs, MDs, and podiatrists to compare and feel the difference in actual practice. It seems like you need that extra shadowing. Besides, volunteer at some major hospitals, and learn who they call "physician" if you wanna be one. Dentists also do surgery but they're not called physicians. There's nothing wrong being or not being called as physician. It's a name given to the professional.

Best of luck.

Stop trolling, spend a year shadowing?

:laugh:
 
Take the DPM and run. You've obviously not put a lot of thought into medicine, but have invested quite a bit into podiatry. You aren't guaranteed any acceptances, even with good stats ( yours are ok).
 
Take the DPM and run. You've obviously not put a lot of thought into medicine, but have invested quite a bit into podiatry. You aren't guaranteed any acceptances, even with good stats ( yours are ok).

I disagree. If there is even a small chance he would rather do something else like derm, ent, or nuro, he at least has a chance to match at DO school

I have never heard of a pod matching in ENT. I have heard (lol heard) of DOs matching in ent.
 
I disagree. If there is even a small chance he would rather do something else like derm, ent, or nuro, he at least has a chance to match at DO school

I have never heard of a pod matching in ENT. I have heard (lol heard) of DOs matching in ent.

Idk, I think OP has shown in his most recent posts that he is considering DO mainly because he has the stats to get in. Not really because he wants to be a non-DPM.
 
Idk, I think OP has shown in his most recent posts that he is considering DO mainly because he has the stats to get in. Not really because he wants to be a non-DPM.

Bingo.
 
Thanks for all your help. I contacted some D.O.s and we will see how that goes. I am kind of leaning towards staying with podiatry. I get to practice earlier, have less debt, and stay in socal. I am interested in surgery after shadowing in the O.R. and I feel as though with D.O. school I am going to have to excel in order to consider doing surgery. my uncle who is an internal medicine M.D. also just tells me to do podiatry he thinks it is a good cash business and all the podiatrist he knows are very happy. I know when you go to school you aren't going to live there or practice there but many of the D.O. schools are in really rural areas and I find that kind of depressing LOL (lived in socal my entire life). I interviewed at DMU so I have an idea of the area most D.O. schools are at. It would be great if I got into western for their D.O. program, but that would be more of a long shot in comparison to WCU, ACOM, etc.

my end goal is to be able to help people and have a comfy life.

Just want to point out that not even close to all of the DO schools are in rural areas. A few are, yes. But many are in large cities: Indianapolis, Chicago, Atlanta, Kansas City, Manhattan, and Tulsa to name a few.

My 2 cents on this thread: if you don't want to do feet for the rest of your life, apply DO. You have good stats for some of the DO schools. If you apply early, you'll get interviews. Tuition is comparable to what you said you'll be paying for podiatry school, so loans shouldn't be too much more than that (just live very frugally during med school so you don't have to take out too much in loans, get a roommate, etc). I highly recommend applying DO if you're not 100% sure about treating feet for the rest of your life. If you want to do podiatry, then great! However, I don't think you would have started this thread if you didn't have doubts. Don't do podiatry because you thought you couldn't get in to med school... because you can.
Good luck to you.
 
I heard of a story of a MD ortho who specializes in foot and hand surgery and a DPM who work for the same group. The ortho doc salary is 450k+ and the DPM is 180k+. I know the ortho doc specialize on hand surgery also and has more training but does that justify that huge disparity in salary? To the OP , I think it might be safer to go to DO and explore your options from there.
 
I heard of a story of a MD ortho who specializes in foot and hand surgery and a DPM who work for the same group. The ortho doc salary is 450k+ and the DPM is 180k+. I know the ortho doc specialize on hand surgery also and has more training but does that justify that huge disparity in salary? To the OP , I think it might be safer to go to DO and explore your options from there.

Yes. Ortho and DPM don't do the same thing.

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The more I read of Bumblebee's posts the more I question how the hell he got accepted. Hopefully his terrible advice/ideas on SDN won't translate into terrible advice/ideas as a physician.

Pretty srs. :diebanana:

You and I are on the same page. For sure.

I feel like his interview must have been similar to the scene in Old School when Will Ferrell blacked out with a stroke of genius during the debate.
 
The more I read of Bumblebee's posts the more I question how the hell he got accepted. Hopefully his terrible advice/ideas on SDN won't translate into terrible advice/ideas as a physician.

Pretty srs. :diebanana:

Oh, really? How terrible an idea could be to advise someone to shadow DOs, MDs, and podiatrists a year more, instead of asking/commenting here on SDN about their differences?

OP - stop trolling, spend a year to shadow more DOs, MDs, and podiatrists to compare and feel the difference in actual practice. It seems like you need that extra shadowing. Besides, volunteer at some major hospitals, and learn who they call "physician" if you wanna be one. Dentists also do surgery but they're not called physicians. There's nothing wrong being or not being called as physician. It's a name given to the professional.

Best of luck.
 
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The more I read of Bumblebee's posts the more I question how the hell he got accepted. Hopefully his terrible advice/ideas on SDN won't translate into terrible advice/ideas as a physician.

Pretty srs. :diebanana:

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You and I are on the same page. For sure.

I feel like his interview must have been similar to the scene in Old School when Will Ferrell blacked out with a stroke of genius during the debate.
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Oh, really? How terrible an idea could be to advise someone to shadow DOs, MDs, and podiatrists a year more, instead of asking/commenting here on SDN about their differences?

The most hilarious part is that he is serious about this.

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You and I are on the same page. For sure.

I feel like his interview must have been similar to the scene in Old School when Will Ferrell blacked out with a stroke of genius during the debate.

Wat? I don't know what you're talking about.

Actually, I was interviewed at and accepted by many of the US-DO medical schools very early in this application cycle. I turned down many interviews, too. I had a perfect application season.
 
Wat? I don't know what you're talking about.

Actually, I was interviewed at and accepted by many of the US-DO medical schools very early in this application cycle. I turned down many interviews, too. I had a perfect application season.

🙄

All hail DrBumblebee
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Wat? I don't know what you're talking about.

Actually, I was interviewed at and accepted by many of the US-DO medical schools very early in this application cycle. I turned down many interviews, too. I had a perfect application season.

I was just having a little bit of fun. Youtube the Old School scene.
 
Wat? I don't know what you're talking about.

Actually, I was interviewed at and accepted by many of the US-DO medical schools very early in this application cycle. I turned down many interviews, too. I had a perfect application season.

I want to meet this bumblebee guy. What school did you get into?

Turn down any non-US osteopathic schools? 😉
 
I heard of a story of a MD ortho who specializes in foot and hand surgery and a DPM who work for the same group. The ortho doc salary is 450k+ and the DPM is 180k+. I know the ortho doc specialize on hand surgery also and has more training but does that justify that huge disparity in salary? To the OP , I think it might be safer to go to DO and explore your options from there.

Understand that this is also why you will likely see much less reimbursement for ortho in the future. Eventually orthos will say "let the DPM do it" and be largely out of feet. And as a student as DMU I see a lot of pods and their training is primarily adequate as it is to take over much of what orthos do regarding feet. Add another two years to their residency and pods will be able to easily pass up their ortho counterparts.

This is another conversation for another day but don't go DO if you think you can just specialize in ortho feet and do the same thing.
 
I want to meet this bumblebee guy. What school did you get into?

Turn down any non-US osteopathic schools? 😉

It's a previlege to meet with me. I'm in Florida, anyone can show you the directions. I might look a little bit tougher than what you might expect from the nickname, though. 😎

I haven't decided which school to attend to, yet. However, I might select either WesternU/COMP or GA-PCOM. Latter appeals logistically, less issues related with relocation and whatnot.

I haven't applied to any non-US osteopathic medical school, at all. I'm not interested in any of that kind, either. So, I don't know what you're talking about.

How is your NYIT application going?
 
It's a previlege to meet with me. I'm in Florida, anyone can show you the directions. I might look a little bit tougher than what you might expect from the nickname, though. 😎

I haven't decided which school to attend to, yet. However, I might select either WesternU/COMP or GA-PCOM. Latter appeals logistically, less issues related with relocation and whatnot.

I haven't applied to any non-US osteopathic medical school, at all. I'm not interested in any of that kind, either. So, I don't know what you're talking about.

How is your NYIT application going?

Passed up the ii because I had to pay for another school already. My comment about non-US DO schools was a joke because there is no such thing.
 
It's a previlege to meet with me. I'm in Florida, anyone can show you the directions. I might look a little bit tougher than what you might expect from the nickname, though. 😎

I haven't decided which school to attend to, yet. However, I might select either WesternU/COMP or GA-PCOM. Latter appeals logistically, less issues related with relocation and whatnot.

I haven't applied to any non-US osteopathic medical school, at all. I'm not interested in any of that kind, either. So, I don't know what you're talking about.

How is your NYIT application going?

If you don't mind me asking Dr BumbleBee, why not LECOM-B and NSU?
 
Passed up the ii because I had to pay for another school already. My comment about non-US DO schools was a joke because there is no such thing.

I thought that they're worried non-US osteopathic schools. They could only perform chiropractic manipulations and that sort of thing. I think I remember hearing them about them in Australia
 
If you don't mind me asking Dr BumbleBee, why not LECOM-B and NSU?

LECOM-B: Basically because I decided that PBL isn't suitable for me. Besides, I didn't like the dressing and attendance policies of the school, which seemed to me too rigid to follow. Thus, I didn't even apply for LECOM-B. However, I'll tell you that Sarasota is a very nice, small town, which is close to many great beaches around with white sands just in a short driving distance. City residents are mostly retired people, and their relatives visiting them. It's not an over crowded city, and there's a lot of affordable housing options. Lakewood Ranch, which is where the schools is located, is at a great neighborhood, and has an easy access to the freeway. There's a small, yet very functional international airport, like 15 miles away from the school, too. So, travelling in/out of the city isn't difficult, at all. I used to live in Sarasota for a while, and I loved the city. However, LECOM-B wasn't the medical school that I imagined myself attending to.

NSU: Ft. Lauder is too expensive. Period. Housing is very expensive for a student, who is married with a kid. There isn't great schools for the kid to attend, either. Besides, Nova lets its campus be shared by all of its undergrads, as well as its medical and health schools' students. It seemed too crowded for me. It's a personal choice, though. So, I decided to turn down their interview invite, although I was excited to get one.

Comparing both, I think I'd choose NSU, though.
 
LECOM-B: Basically because I decided that PBL isn't suitable for me. Besides, I didn't like the dressing and attendance policies of the school, which seemed to me too rigid to follow. Thus, I didn't even apply for LECOM-B. However, I'll tell you that Sarasota is a very nice, small town, which is close to many great beaches around with white sands just in a short driving distance. City residents are mostly retired people, and their relatives visiting them. It's not an over crowded city, and there's a lot of affordable housing options. Lakewood Ranch, which is where the schools is located, is at a great neighborhood, and has an easy access to the freeway. There's a small, yet very functional international airport, like 15 miles away from the school, too. So, travelling in/out of the city isn't difficult, at all. I used to live in Sarasota for a while, and I loved the city. However, LECOM-B wasn't the medical school that I imagined myself attending to.

NSU: Ft. Lauder is too expensive. Period. Housing is very expensive for a student, who is married with a kid. There isn't great schools for the kid to attend, either. Besides, Nova lets its campus be shared by all of its undergrads, as well as its medical and health schools' students. It seemed too crowded for me. It's a personal choice, though. So, I decided to turn down their interview invite, although I was excited to get one.

Comparing both, I think I'd choose NSU, though.

👍 Good info to have, though I'm not married with a kid.
 
Passed up the ii because I had to pay for another school already. My comment about non-US DO schools was a joke because there is no such thing.

You are mis-informed. You can receive an Osteopathic degree in Britain and Australia. They do manipulation only much like chiro and the degree doesn't transfer to the US
 
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