Rank the Texas Medical Schools

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I have looked into this online, but all I have found is a single thread on SDN back in 2005! For anybody with some knowledge on this topic, what are your thoughts on the relative rankings of all the medical schools in Texas (including Baylor)?
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DirkN said:
I have looked into this online, but all I have found is a single thread on SDN back in 2005! For anybody with some knowledge on this topic, what are your thoughts on the relative rankings of all the medical schools in Texas (including Baylor)?
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IMO (EDIT)
  1. Baylor College of Medicine
  2. University of Texas Southwestern Medical School at Dallas
  3. University of Texas Medical School at Houston
  4. University of Texas Medical Branch Galveston
  5. University of Texas Medical School at San Antonio
  6. Texas Tech University Health Sciences Center School of Medicine
  7. Texas A&M Health Science Center College of Medicine
  8. Texas Tech University Health Sciences Center Paul L. Foster School of Medicine
 
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I second the Buff OP's rankings outside of maybe swapping SA and Galveston.
IMO there are 3 tiers.
Baylor
SW/Houston/SA/Galveston
El Paso/Lubbock/A&M
Then within these tiers it comes down to preference on location.
 
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The Buff OP said:
IMO
  1. Baylor College of Medicine
  2. University of Texas Southwestern Medical School at Dallas
  3. University of Texas Medical School at Houston
  4. University of Texas Medical School at San Antonio
  5. University of Texas Medical Branch Galveston
  6. Texas Tech University Health Sciences Center Paul L. Foster School of Medicine
  7. Texas A&M Health Science Center College of Medicine
  8. Texas Tech University Health Sciences Center School of Medicine
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Agree with the first three but UTMB has been around forever and has tons of specialties . I would put it fourth and UTSA fifth. The last three are probably all really similar, but I get the feeling Lubbock is slightly better than A&M and El Paso. It's too close to call though.
 
Why do you guys rank Texas Tech El Paso over Lubbock? Isn't the school pretty new and used to be a part of lubbock?
 
 
DermViser said:
I'm surprised you ranked UT-San Antonio above UT-Galveston and the El-Paso school (relatively new) above Texas A&M and Texas Tech. I also think 8 medical schools is ridiculous. This isn't New York.
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LMAOOO New York only has four state schools!! Then 4 privates with impossibly high standards, 3 normal middle tiers, and 2 bottom tiers that screen out mid-high stats. And 2 (or 3? Does Touro Middletown count?) DO schools. It's tough for us New Yorkers.
 
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Serous Demilune said:
LMAOOO New York only has four state schools!! Then 4 privates with impossibly high standards, 3 normal middle tiers, and 2 bottom tiers that screen out mid-high stats. And 2 (or 3? Does Touro Middletown count?) DO schools. It's tough for us New Yorkers.
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at least it's not California
 
Serous Demilune said:
Agree with the first three but UTMB has been around forever and has tons of specialties . I would put it fourth and UTSA fifth. The last three are probably all really similar, but I get the feeling Lubbock is slightly better than A&M and El Paso. It's too close to call though.
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Yeah, I should of put UTMB 4th and Lubbock before A&M and El Paso. I kinda rushed the list.
 
I should've established residency in Texas. The number of medical schools you guys have is awesome. There are very few things I hate about California, but our lack of medical schools is one of them...
 
They're also making a new school in Austin that affiliatiated with the University of Texas. I think it opens in 2016.
 
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Serous Demilune said:
LMAOOO New York only has four state schools!! Then 4 privates with impossibly high standards, 3 normal middle tiers, and 2 bottom tiers that screen out mid-high stats. And 2 (or 3? Does Touro Middletown count?) DO schools. It's tough for us New Yorkers.
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Actually 13 MD schools alone. That is a ridiculous number even for New York.
 
blackkrim said:
I should've established residency in Texas. The number of medical schools you guys have is awesome. There are very few things I hate about California, but our lack of medical schools is one of them...
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You're kidding right? You have 9 med schools in California.
 
DermViser said:
You're kidding right? You have 9 med schools in California.
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Not nearly enough for our premed population. Texas has 8 (soon 9) with 60% of our state's population.

Also keep in mind that our schools include Stanford, UCSF, UCSD, and UCLA, all of which are among the best in the country and incredibly difficult to get into even for well qualified applicants. Another of those 9 is Loma Linda, which is a religiously-oriented private school and has a code of conduct that most applicants won't wish to follow.

This is why you always see a flood of Californians in medical school across the country.
 
blackkrim said:
Not nearly enough for our premed population. Texas has 8 (soon 9) with 60% of our state's population.

Also keep in mind that our schools include Stanford, UCSF, UCSD, and UCLA, all of which are among the best in the country and incredibly difficult to get into even for well qualified applicants. Another of those 9 is Loma Linda, which is a religiously-oriented private school and has a code of conduct that most applicants won't wish to follow.

This is why you always see a flood of Californians in medical school across the country.
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Just bc you're premed doesn't mean you deserve to go to med school. It's the policy of your state schools that for some reason don't look toward state applicants even though they pay taxes.
 
Would it be considered sketchy to go to one of these really new UT system schools? On one hand, they're new, so no firm ranking or alumni. On the other hand, the other UT system schools are at least decent and UT Austin is a public ivy...
 
helpabrotherout said:
Would it be considered sketchy to go to one of these really new UT system schools? On one hand, they're new, so no firm ranking or alumni. On the other hand, the other UT system schools are at least decent and UT Austin is a public ivy...
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The UT Rio Grande one sounds sketchy.
 
DermViser said:
Just bc you're premed doesn't mean you deserve to go to med school. It's the policy of your state schools that for some reason don't look toward state applicants even though they pay taxes.
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I'm aware of that, dude. Nonetheless, the fact that an exorbitant number of Californians end up accepted to private (and occasionally public) schools in other states indicates that there are many qualified applicants who are forced out of state by the crunch in medical education here. The state schools do this largely because of budget cuts and the increased revenue from out-of-state tuition. It's happening even at the undergraduate level.
 
DermViser said:
WTF?!!? Where?
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Southern tip of Texas in Brownsville, as close to Mexico as El Paso it looks like. Their Ask a Question stated that you will be able to apply for the 2015 cycle.
 
As a lifelong Texan and emigrant for medical school (also interviewed everywhere in Texas, so these rankings are based on what I thought of the schools):
1. University of Michigan 😛 (good amount of us Texans here)
2. Baylor College of Medicine
3. UT Houston
4. UT Southwestern
5. UT San Antonio
6. Texas Tech - Lubbock
7. Texas A&M
8. UTMB
9. Texas Tech - El Paso

UT Southwestern at Austin is being built and may end up being a pretty solid school, just based on the fact that Austin will attract a lot of solid faculty and generate a pretty competitive applicant pool. Also, the association with UTSW won't hurt.
 
CrimsonKing said:
As a lifelong Texan and emigrant for medical school (also interviewed everywhere in Texas, so these rankings are based on what I thought of the schools):
1. University of Michigan 😛 (good amount of us Texans here)
2. Baylor College of Medicine
3. UT Houston
4. UT Southwestern
5. UT San Antonio
6. Texas Tech - Lubbock
7. Texas A&M
8. UTMB
9. Texas Tech - El Paso

UT Southwestern at Austin is being built and may end up being a pretty solid school, just based on the fact that Austin will attract a lot of solid faculty and generate a pretty competitive applicant pool. Also, the association with UTSW won't hurt.
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I believe by then it would no longer be affiliated with UT Southwestern - http://www.utexas.edu/dell-medical-school
 
DirkN said:
I have looked into this online, but all I have found is a single thread on SDN back in 2005! For anybody with some knowledge on this topic, what are your thoughts on the relative rankings of all the medical schools in Texas (including Baylor)?
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Lowest total COA (top) to highest COA (bottom).
 
TooMuchResearch said:
Lowest total COA (top) to highest COA (bottom).
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You know the difference between the lowest and highest COAs in Texas is not big enough to even factor in to the decision process?

accueil said:
I also think that the new Dell Med School at UT Austin will end up being the #1 public MD school in TX in 15 years.
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Wouldn't surprise me a bit. Texans love Austin.
 
blackkrim said:
I'm aware of that, dude. Nonetheless, the fact that an exorbitant number of Californians end up accepted to private (and occasionally public) schools in other states indicates that there are many qualified applicants who are forced out of state by the crunch in medical education here. The state schools do this largely because of budget cuts and the increased revenue from out-of-state tuition. It's happening even at the undergraduate level.
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It's because people from Cali don't need an incentive to come back home after medical school. If you're pissed about it, I'd start some movement on the legislative front, but this is your state messing with you and you and other voters have the option to fix it.
 
accueil said:
I also think that the new Dell Med School at UT Austin will end up being the #1 public MD school in TX in 15 years.
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but... Baylor.
aka houston med center
aka largest med center in the world
aka lots of level 1 trauma centers
aka lots of specialty opportunities
aka lots of rubbing elbows
aka lots of research
aka lots of funding
aka better than round rock, texas
 
Catman21 said:
but... Baylor.
aka houston med center
aka largest med center in the world
aka lots of level 1 trauma centers
aka lots of specialty opportunities
aka lots of rubbing elbows
aka lots of research
aka lots of funding
aka better than round rock, texas
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That's why I said public MD. I think Dell will surpass UTSW almost assuredly but Baylor maybe yes maybe no. Dell will have a level 1 trauma center (Austin isn't comparable to Houston though). As for research, Dell will be the only medical school in the region and will be building on the base of UT's excellent basic science research already happening. Between UT Houston, Baylor, and Cornell (from Methodist), faculty--aka drivers of research aka bringing in the $$--are split between three medical schools. And the med school will be on the UT campus in downtown Austin (not in Round Rock). I obvi don't know how it will play out, but I think great things will be coming out of Dell.
 
ridethecliche said:
It's because people from Cali don't need an incentive to come back home after medical school. If you're pissed about it, I'd start some movement on the legislative front, but this is your state messing with you and you and other voters have the option to fix it.
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Oh, I complete agree. The state is slowly getting its act together with the opening and future expansion of UC Riverside and the likely future opening of UC Merced. I hope that Californians will continue to press for better medical education options in this state, following the example of Texas.
 
blackkrim said:
Oh, I complete agree. The state is slowly getting its act together with the opening and future expansion of UC Riverside and the likely future opening of UC Merced. I hope that Californians will continue to press for better medical education options in this state, following the example of Texas.
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UC Merced has been moved to the (far) back burner, sadly...
 
accueil said:
That's why I said public MD. I think Dell will surpass UTSW almost assuredly but Baylor maybe yes maybe no. Dell will have a level 1 trauma center (Austin isn't comparable to Houston though). As for research, Dell will be the only medical school in the region and will be building on the base of UT's excellent basic science research already happening. Between UT Houston, Baylor, and Cornell (from Methodist), faculty--aka drivers of research aka bringing in the $$--are split between three medical schools. And the med school will be on the UT campus in downtown Austin (not in Round Rock). I obvi don't know how it will play out, but I think great things will be coming out of Dell.
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The one concern I have for the UT Austin medical campus is the volume of patients that UMC Brackenridge is capable of handling (~244 beds, and the new hospital won't be much larger) compared to many of the hospitals in the TMC, or Parkland in Dallas, all of which have at least double/triple the number of beds and several thousand more admissions in a given year. Although I'm guessing the Austin campus will the have the financial weight to put together a quality educational experience, I do wonder if students will be exposed to the same level of pathology compared to their compatriots in Houston or Dallas (or even SA).

That being said, Austin is one of the fastest growing cities in the country, and that point may be moot in a decade. It would definitely be amazing to find a faculty position at a school with the potential of Dell.
 
Just out of curiosity, why are y'all ranking Texas Tech Paul L. Foster in El Paso so low? I recently interviewed there and was really impressed by the curriculum and facilities.
 
deeproots said:
Just out of curiosity, why are y'all ranking Texas Tech Paul L. Foster in El Paso so low? I recently interviewed there and was really impressed by the curriculum and facilities.
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I think they're basing it off the median MCAT+GPA of accepted students and it's also a new school.
 
deeproots said:
Just out of curiosity, why are y'all ranking Texas Tech Paul L. Foster in El Paso so low? I recently interviewed there and was really impressed by the curriculum and facilities.
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Afford said:
I think they're basing it off the median MCAT+GPA of accepted students and it's also a new school.
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It's a relatively new school, but much more importantly - it's IN EL PASO.
 
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