Ranking Help

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I am having difficulty ranking the following programs: MIR, Yale, UPMC and NYU.
Location is not a problem to me. I really appreciate your help.

 

[MadRadLad]

MIR > NYU > UPMC > Yale

 

[RadGod1]

MIR > NYU > UPMC > Yale

Agree.


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[deleted564680]

MIR > NYU > UPMC > Yale

If going on pure strength of the programs its probably MIR > NYU = UPMC >> Yale

 

[GadRads]

UPMC looked like a work-horse program. I think NYU will allow more time for research. I never interviewed at MIR/Yale.

 

[mskrad9]

MIR> NYU> UPMC> Yale

 

[Rrraadd]

What does everyone place Yale so low? It's 21-25 any given year, is top 10 NIH funded in Radiology, and is a super nonmalignant program. Just wondering. Here, I guess it's fair to put MIR and NYU ahead of Yale, but Yale >= UPMC

 

[Fab5Hill33]

What relevance does NIH funding have on residency training? Did students who went to med schools with lots of NIH grant money do more research than students who went to schools with less NIH funds? And, if so, has that affected their career to date?

 

[radnonymous]

.

 

[Cognovi]

What relevance does NIH funding have on residency training? Did students who went to med schools with lots of NIH grant money do more research than students who went to schools with less NIH funds? And, if so, has that affected their career to date?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27706280 (PDF: http://www.rimed.org/rimedicaljournal/2016/10/2016-10-48-cont-havnaer.pdf)
"Higher ranked schools [per National Institutes of Health funding and U.S. News & World Report rankings] provided more opportunities for student research by providing internally funded one-year research, requiring research, and offering student research days."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3631320/
1998–2004 national cohort of U.S. medical graduates: Adjusted odds ratio for full-time faculty appointment given matriculation to research-intensive medical school (top 40 by NIH funding): 1.18 (95% CI 1.13 – 1.23), which is statistically significant after adjusting for factors including research paper authorship during medical school, ≥1 years of research during residency.

 

[jorts42]

What relevance does NIH funding have on residency training? Did students who went to med schools with lots of NIH grant money do more research than students who went to schools with less NIH funds? And, if so, has that affected their career to date?

it definitely does. applicants from these schools have a leg up on us mortals who come from underfunded state schools where there are only a handful of research projects that tons of students are fighting for. we also still struggle to get those top flight interviews in rads even with >250 AOA because of research

source: my classmates and predecessors who applied to rads

 

[Fab5Hill33]

1) I'd say it depends on your research goals. I published about a dozen projects during my residency. NONE were NIH funded. If you are interested in academia and want to get involved in NIH funded research, that's one thing. But if you want to boost your CV for the purposes of fellowship or job application, I'd say the amount of NIH funding is irrelevant.

2) Are you using NIH Radiology funding rankings? If not, general NIH funding to any given institution doesn't reflect the radiology research that is going on there, and so would not be relevant IMHO.

it definitely does. applicants from these schools have a leg up on us mortals who come from underfunded state schools where there are only a handful of research projects that tons of students are fighting for. we also still struggle to get those top flight interviews in rads even with >250 AOA because of research

source: my classmates and predecessors who applied to rads

 

[jorts42]

1) I'd say it depends on your research goals. I published about a dozen projects during my residency. NONE were NIH funded. If you are interested in academia and want to get involved in NIH funded research, that's one thing. But if you want to boost your CV for the purposes of fellowship or job application, I'd say the amount of NIH funding is irrelevant.

2) Are you using NIH Radiology funding rankings? If not, general NIH funding to any given institution doesn't reflect the radiology research that is going on there, and so would not be relevant IMHO.

1) I meant during medical school for getting into residency

2) Yes I was using radiology funding