Re-take of Steps after GMO?

[RunwayModel]

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Just wondering if I do 4 year GMO after internship and then apply for a civilian residency, would I have to re-take a Step in order to get licensed (due to that 7 year rule)? So would I have to retake Step 1 as I took it in my 3rd year of medical school and by the time I apply for an advanced position the seven years would be up, at least on Step 1? That would suck.

 

[BigNavyPedsGuy]

You'll take all 3 steps before your GMO b/c you have to be licensed. So no, you'd actually be ahead of the game in that aspect.

 

[RunwayModel]

Thanks for the reply. I understand that Step 3 is taken before GMO. However, after 4 years of GMO when I have to apply for residency, Will my scores (esp. at that time my Step 1 score being more than 7 yrs old when I apply MS3+MS4+Internship+4 yrs of GMO), would I have to retake that step in order to get LICENSED by whatever state I end up going to residency to (they all have the 7 yr rule I think)?

 

[orbitsurgMD]

Thanks for the reply. I understand that Step 3 is taken before GMO. However, after 4 years of GMO when I have to apply for residency, Will my scores (esp. at that time my Step 1 score being more than 7 yrs old when I apply MS3+MS4+Internship+4 yrs of GMO), would I have to retake that step in order to get LICENSED by whatever state I end up going to residency to (they all have the 7 yr rule I think)?

Generally, no.

USMLE scores have to be within a certain maximum number of years from licensing from first licensing, but subsequent licenses are usually obtained by endorsement from the first, not by board examination.

You will be required to obtain a valid unrestricted license following your internship year, before you start working as a GMO or other activity. Even if you train straight through, you will generally have to get a license while a second-year resident.

If you first license in one state that allows you licensing with just an internship, you will apply for license by endorsement for a license where you will do your residency or subsequent practice, assuming that isn't where you obtained your first state license. Some states have limited scope of practice licensing for residents in training. Those are not sufficient for GMO assignment.

 

[usnavdoc]

no you have it all wrong...The seven years is the amount of time needed for taking and passing all three usmle steps. That is all. Once passed they are valid forever...

 

[orbitsurgMD]

Thanks for the reply. I understand that Step 3 is taken before GMO. However, after 4 years of GMO when I have to apply for residency, Will my scores (esp. at that time my Step 1 score being more than 7 yrs old when I apply MS3+MS4+Internship+4 yrs of GMO), would I have to retake that step in order to get LICENSED by whatever state I end up going to residency to (they all have the 7 yr rule I think)?

You will take step 3 as an intern. You will apply for a license shortly after finishing your internship. There will be a minimum time lapse for you from licensing. You will have to be licensed before becoming a GMO. Once you are licensed somewhere, there is generally no problem becoming licensed in a second state. The time limits generally do not apply as long as you have a current license somewhere else.

 

[deuist]

I wondered about how GMO's function. Since some states have a long lag in ranting licenses, what happens if you finish your internship, yet are not licensed yet? What does the military do with you?

 

[usnavdoc]

I wondered about how GMO's function. Since some states have a long lag in ranting licenses, what happens if you finish your internship, yet are not licensed yet? What does the military do with you?

You will have a plan of supervision where you practice under one of your peers. IE... a fellow GMO will oversee your work. If your lack of a license adversely affects your deployability after a reasonable time period you will get an adverse fit rep.