Realistic Expectations

fuzzywuz

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    Hi all,

    I'm in a situation right now and would like some advice.

    I'm sitting here going through a number of threads on this forum and browsing through profiles on Mdapplicants. There are two main thoughts going though my mind. Confusion and hopelessness.

    Everyone here has high GPAs, stellar ECs, great MCAT scores, exceptional LORs. Would this population (SNDers) be considered "typical"? Or is this forum the home to the cream of the crop in the applicant pool? I feel like with my stats, I will NOT stand a chance. With this, I'm quite discouraged.

    Secondly, I'm going to a college (cut-throat Ivy League) which constantly boast the fact that students with a GPA of 3.4+ and MCAT of 30+ stand a good chance of being admitted (~75-80%). Here are my stats-

    Rising Senior (NY State Residence)
    Cum GPA- 3.45
    MCAT- Will take next summer
    BCPM- 3.39
    IF only BCP- 3.30

    Good ECs (mostly off-campus, no clubs), research, plenty of internship, shadowing, and volunteer, working as counselor to people with mental disabilities, will get good LORs.

    As you can see, my stats are only borderline. Comparing my profile to others here, I don't think I'm in good shape... With this, I've decided to take a year off and apply after I get my senior year grades in. I hope to pull to a cumulative GPA of 3.51. My goal is to get at least a 30 on my MCATs.


    What should my realistic expectations be? I've always gave myself the benefit of the doubt and tried to look at the brighter side of things. Now reality is setting in... Any suggestions or advice at this point in time to make myself more competitive?

    Thanks for reading this!
     

    jochi1543

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      Actually, Ivy League students tend to do better with similar GPAs than folks from less well-known institutions. So your 3.45 is arguably worth as much as someone else's 3.55.

      Take your MCAT and apply if it's 30 or more, my friend.
       

      jochi1543

      President, Gunner Central
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        You searched for applicants:
        Whose applications are complete
        MCAT score greater than 30
        Overall GPA less than 3.50
        Applied MD and accepted at any medical school
        </B>
        The following profiles matched your search:
        07742 Anonymous, 34 MCAT, 0.00 GPA, applied 2007
        01220 Allegheny College, 37 MCAT, 3.35 GPA, applied 2004
        01936 Amherst College, 38 MCAT, 3.47 GPA, applied 2005
        03653 Arizona State University - West, 31 MCAT, 3.20 GPA, applied 2005
        01781 Assumption College, 30 MCAT, 3.45 GPA, applied 2004
        05881 Augustana College, 35 MCAT, 3.30 GPA, applied 2007
        00765 Austin College, 31 MCAT, 3.30 GPA, applied 2000
        03219 Austin Peay State University, 34 MCAT, 3.10 GPA, applied 2005
        01455 Barnard College, 34 MCAT, 3.41 GPA, applied 2004
        00375 Baylor University, 32 MCAT, 3.34 GPA, applied 2003
        01888 Birmingham Southern College, 31 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2001
        00299 Boston College, 31 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2003
        05464 Boston College, 30 MCAT, 3.34 GPA, applied 2006
        00787 Boston University, 33 MCAT, 2.92 GPA, applied 2004
        01611 Boston University, 39 MCAT, 2.85 GPA, applied 2004
        06298 Boston University, 33 MCAT, 3.10 GPA, applied 2006
        03384 Bowdoin College, 33 MCAT, 3.27 GPA, applied 2002
        04178 Bowdoin College, 32 MCAT, 3.20 GPA, applied 2006
        00827 Brandeis University, 32 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2003
        00644 Brandeis University, 31 MCAT, 3.42 GPA, applied 2003
        00736 Brandeis University, 33 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2003
        07707 Brandeis University, 32 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2003
        00791 Brigham Young University, 33 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2003
        00011 Brown University, 33 MCAT, 3.46 GPA, applied 2003
        04552 brown university, 40 MCAT, 3.31 GPA, applied 2006
        00665 BYU, 31 MCAT, 3.49 GPA, applied 2003
        06105 BYU, 30 MCAT, 3.46 GPA, applied 2007
        03430 Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, 30 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2006
        01577 Cal State San Bernardino, 33 MCAT, 2.74 GPA, applied 2004
        00549 California Institute of Technology, 33 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2003
        01235 California State University, Fresno, 31 MCAT, 3.45 GPA, applied 2004
        00646 Caltech, 38 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2002
        01967 Calvin College, 33 MCAT, 3.45 GPA, applied 2004
        07640 Anonymous, 33 MCAT, 3.47 GPA, applied 2007
        07633 Carleton College, 35 MCAT, 3.10 GPA, applied 2007
        01299 Carleton College, 30 MCAT, 3.36 GPA, applied 2004
        03710 Carleton College, 37 MCAT, 3.10 GPA, applied 2006
        03736 Carnegie Mellon University, 36 MCAT, 3.00 GPA, applied 2005
        03806 Carnegie Mellon University, 36 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2005
        01720 Carnegie Mellon University, 33 MCAT, 2.92 GPA, applied 2004
        02112 Carnegie Mellon University, 40 MCAT, 2.92 GPA, applied 2005
        00041 Case Western Reserve University, 30 MCAT, 3.43 GPA, applied 2002
        02914 Case Western Reserve University, 32 MCAT, 3.46 GPA, applied 2005
        04449 Clemson University - Chemistry, 33 MCAT, 3.00 GPA, applied 2006
        03263 Colby College, 35 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2005
        01413 Colgate University, 37 MCAT, 3.45 GPA, applied 2004
        05965 Colgate University, 33 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2007
        01240 Colgate University, 32 MCAT, 3.07 GPA, applied 2004
        02341 Colgate University, 34 MCAT, 3.05 GPA, applied 2005
        06123 College of the Holy Cross, 30 MCAT, 3.49 GPA, applied 2006
        02373 College of William & Mary, 30 MCAT, 3.43 GPA, applied 2005
        01140 College of William and Mary, 35 MCAT, 3.18 GPA, applied 2004
        02074 College of William and Mary, 33 MCAT, 3.30 GPA, applied 2004
        05664 Colorado College, 36 MCAT, 3.45 GPA, applied 2005
        04652 Colorado School of Mines, 36 MCAT, 2.80 GPA, applied 2006
        01359 Colorado State University, 34 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2004
        00287 Columbia, 30 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2003
        07875 Columbia University, 32 MCAT, 3.38 GPA, applied 2007
        00184 Columbia University, 36 MCAT, 2.90 GPA, applied 2003
        01198 Columbia University, 33 MCAT, 3.39 GPA, applied 2004
        01917 Columbia University, 32 MCAT, 3.46 GPA, applied 2004
        02414 Columbia University, 35 MCAT, 3.30 GPA, applied 2005
        01266 Columbia University, 34 MCAT, 3.37 GPA, applied 2004
        01246 Columbia University, 33 MCAT, 3.42 GPA, applied 2004
        06239 Columbia University, 35 MCAT, 3.18 GPA, applied 2006
        05346 Anonymous, 32 MCAT, 3.41 GPA, applied 2006
        03570 Cornell University, 37 MCAT, 2.96 GPA, applied 2006
        05017 Cornell University, 36 MCAT, 3.49 GPA, applied 2003
        05196 Cornell University, 37 MCAT, 3.30 GPA, applied 2006
        05443 Cornell University, 33 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2006
        00427 Cornell University, 33 MCAT, 3.31 GPA, applied 2003
        03027 Cornell University, 30 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2004
        03171 Cornell University, 30 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2005
        05436 Cornell University, 32 MCAT, 3.34 GPA, applied 2006
        03305 Cornell University, 34 MCAT, 3.43 GPA, applied 2005
        05598 Cornell University, 37 MCAT, 3.24 GPA, applied 2007
        01035 CSU - Fresno, 30 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2004
        02160 CSU Chico, 36 MCAT, 3.44 GPA, applied 2005
        00426 Dartmouth College, 43 MCAT, 3.25 GPA, applied 2003
        00585 Dartmouth College, 32 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2003
        00465 Dartmouth College, 31 MCAT, 3.36 GPA, applied 2003
        01896 Dartmouth College, 30 MCAT, 3.30 GPA, applied 2004
        00212 Dartmouth College, 31 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2003
        00866 Dartmouth College, 39 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2003
        02638 Dartmouth College, 32 MCAT, 3.39 GPA, applied 2005
        02847 Dartmouth College, 34 MCAT, 3.37 GPA, applied 2005
        05983 Anonymous, 32 MCAT, 3.37 GPA, applied 2007
        03608 Dartmouth College, 34 MCAT, 2.90 GPA, applied 2005
        05124 Dartmouth College, 30 MCAT, 3.45 GPA, applied 2006
        00315 Davidson, 30 MCAT, 3.20 GPA, applied 2003
        01719 Davidson College, 31 MCAT, 3.23 GPA, applied 2004
        03440 Davidson College, 32 MCAT, 3.45 GPA, applied 2005
        07726 Davidson College, 32 MCAT, 2.85 GPA, applied 2007
        01137 Davidson College, 32 MCAT, 3.47 GPA, applied 2003
        03210 Davidson College, 31 MCAT, 3.20 GPA, applied 2005
        01268 Davidson College, 32 MCAT, 3.47 GPA, applied 2002
        00653 DePauw University, 30 MCAT, 3.30 GPA, applied 2000
        02233 Dickinson College, 30 MCAT, 3.45 GPA, applied 2005
        03021 Drake University, 35 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2005
        04073 Drexel University, 37 MCAT, 2.79 GPA, applied 2006
        01872 Duke University, 32 MCAT, 3.30 GPA, applied 2004
        00596 Duke University, 34 MCAT, 3.47 GPA, applied 2003
        00660 Duke University, 34 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2003
        04575 Duke University, 30 MCAT, 3.46 GPA, applied 2006
        00348 Duke University, 36 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2003
        01907 Duke University, 35 MCAT, 3.32 GPA, applied 2004
        00823 Duke University, 35 MCAT, 3.42 GPA, applied 2003
        01396 Duke University, 42 MCAT, 3.34 GPA, applied 2004
        03892 Duke University, 33 MCAT, 3.20 GPA, applied 2004
        04981 Duke University, 30 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2006
        06742 Duke University, 35 MCAT, 3.42 GPA, applied 2007
        01850 Eastern Oregon University, 33 MCAT, 3.47 GPA, applied 2004
        01959 Emory, 30 MCAT, 3.15 GPA, applied 2004
        02655 Emory University, 32 MCAT, 3.30 GPA, applied 2005
        01441 Emory University, 36 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2004
        01616 Emory University, 33 MCAT, 3.46 GPA, applied 2004
        05693 Emory University, 32 MCAT, 3.47 GPA, applied 2006
        07334 Emory University, 33 MCAT, 3.20 GPA, applied 2007
        00029 Florida Atlantic University, 33 MCAT, 3.28 GPA, applied 2003
        03161 Florida State University, 33 MCAT, 3.09 GPA, applied 2005
        05220 Furman University, 35 MCAT, 3.16 GPA, applied 2006
        00934 George Washington University, 33 MCAT, 3.44 GPA, applied 2004
        01300 Georgetown, 32 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2004
        00180 Georgetown, 32 MCAT, 3.20 GPA, applied 2004
        04944 Georgetown University, 38 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2006
        02009 Georgia Institute of Technology, 31 MCAT, 3.14 GPA, applied 2004
        06103 Georgia Southern University, 32 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2006
        04001 Goucher College, 33 MCAT, 3.14 GPA, applied 2006
        04623 Grand Valley State University, 38 MCAT, 3.30 GPA, applied 2006
        01196 Grinnell College, 41 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2004
        01571 Gustavus Adolphus College, 32 MCAT, 3.30 GPA, applied 2004
        04249 Hamilton College, 32 MCAT, 3.39 GPA, applied 2006
        00326 Harvard, 34 MCAT, 3.45 GPA, applied 2003
        04760 Harvard, 35 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2006
        00188 Harvard, 33 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 1999
        01328 Harvard, 33 MCAT, 3.38 GPA, applied 2004
        02024 Harvard, 35 MCAT, 3.18 GPA, applied 2004
        04028 Harvard, 41 MCAT, 3.24 GPA, applied 2006
        03508 Harvard College, 38 MCAT, 3.49 GPA, applied 2005
        01654 Harvard University, 31 MCAT, 3.25 GPA, applied 2004
        01992 Harvard University, 39 MCAT, 2.95 GPA, applied 2005
        07960 Harvard University, 44 MCAT, 3.20 GPA, applied 2007
        00462 Harvard University, 40 MCAT, 3.35 GPA, applied 2003
        06497 Holy Cross, 30 MCAT, 3.31 GPA, applied 2007
        00141 Holy Cross, 35 MCAT, 3.19 GPA, applied 2003
        08151 Houston Baptist University, 31 MCAT, 3.34 GPA, applied 2007
        04339 Hunter College, 32 MCAT, 3.10 GPA, applied 2006
        01731 Illinois Wesleyan University, 33 MCAT, 3.30 GPA, applied 2004
        00232 Indiana University - Bloomington, 33 MCAT, 3.19 GPA, applied 2003
        00418 James Madison University, 40 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2003
        00615 Johns Hopkins, 30 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2001
        05342 Johns Hopkins University, 31 MCAT, 3.20 GPA, applied 2006
        07717 Anonymous, 35 MCAT, 0.00 GPA, applied 2007
        00451 Johns Hopkins University, 37 MCAT, 3.21 GPA, applied 2003
        00922 Johns Hopkins University, 35 MCAT, 3.10 GPA, applied 2004
        01313 Johns Hopkins University, 34 MCAT, 3.20 GPA, applied 2004
        03612 Johns Hopkins University, 34 MCAT, 3.10 GPA, applied 2004
        00754 Johns Hopkins University, 32 MCAT, 3.20 GPA, applied 2003
        02063 Johns Hopkins University, 31 MCAT, 3.46 GPA, applied 2005
        02356 Johns Hopkins University, 37 MCAT, 3.43 GPA, applied 2005
        02337 Johns Hopkins University, 33 MCAT, 3.25 GPA, applied 2005
        03119 Johns Hopkins University, 30 MCAT, 3.20 GPA, applied 2005
        01162 Johns Hopkins University, 33 MCAT, 3.43 GPA, applied 2004
        00770 Kansas State University, 32 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2000
        03571 Kent State University, 30 MCAT, 3.20 GPA, applied 2005
        03965 Lamar University, 31 MCAT, 3.33 GPA, applied 2006
        00266 Lehigh University, 33 MCAT, 3.19 GPA, applied 2003
        02406 LeMoyne College, 30 MCAT, 3.45 GPA, applied 2003
        00492 loyola, 31 MCAT, 2.80 GPA, applied 2003
        03047 Macalester College, 32 MCAT, 3.20 GPA, applied 2005
        01932 Massachusetts Institute of Technology, 35 MCAT, 3.48 GPA, applied 2004
        02952 McMaster University, 37 MCAT, 3.46 GPA, applied 2005
        06953 Mercer University, 34 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2007
        03145 Middlebury College, 33 MCAT, 3.35 GPA, applied 2005
        01188 Milligan College, 32 MCAT, 3.17 GPA, applied 2004
        00115 MIT, 37 MCAT, 2.78 GPA, applied 2002
        01964 MIT, 32 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2004
        05328 MIT, 32 MCAT, 3.23 GPA, applied 2006
        02497 MIT, 32 MCAT, 3.20 GPA, applied 2005
        07232 MIT, 32 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2007
        01713 MIT, 37 MCAT, 3.39 GPA, applied 2004
        02745 MIT, 35 MCAT, 3.15 GPA, applied 2005
        01619 NC State University, 33 MCAT, 3.02 GPA, applied 2004
        04169 New York University, 34 MCAT, 3.34 GPA, applied 2006
        06108 New York University, 36 MCAT, 3.45 GPA, applied 2005
        01798 New York University, 30 MCAT, 3.44 GPA, applied 2004
        04903 New York University, 34 MCAT, 3.08 GPA, applied 2006
        05589 New York University, 30 MCAT, 3.30 GPA, applied 2006
        00145 Northwestern University, 33 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2003
        02927 Northwestern University, 32 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2005
        00170 Northwestern University, 31 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2003
        00267 Northwestern University, 32 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2003
        00458 Northwestern University, 36 MCAT, 3.26 GPA, applied 2003
        01554 Northwestern University, 32 MCAT, 3.47 GPA, applied 2004
        05204 Northwestern University, 30 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2005
        00603 Northwestern University, 30 MCAT, 3.36 GPA, applied 2003
        00902 Northwestern University, 39 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2003
        00711 Notre Dame, 34 MCAT, 3.10 GPA, applied 2000
        06732 NU, 34 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2007
        03217 Oberlin College, 38 MCAT, 3.10 GPA, applied 2005
        00612 Oberlin College, 33 MCAT, 3.10 GPA, applied 2003
        01260 Oberlin College, 34 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2004
        02974 Oberlin Conservatory, 32 MCAT, 3.29 GPA, applied 2005
        01733 Occidental College, 31 MCAT, 3.49 GPA, applied 2004
         
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        jochi1543

        President, Gunner Central
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        1. Pre-Medical
          00692 Ohio State University, 32 MCAT, 2.85 GPA, applied 2003
          01000 Ohio State University, 31 MCAT, 3.38 GPA, applied 2004
          01783 Ohio State University, 30 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2004
          04199 Ohio State University, 34 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2002
          05022 Oregon State University, 36 MCAT, 3.23 GPA, applied 2006
          01615 Penn State Univ, 30 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2004
          02524 Penn State University, 31 MCAT, 3.46 GPA, applied 2005
          04200 Penn State University, 34 MCAT, 3.30 GPA, applied 2006
          06245 Pittsburg State University, 30 MCAT, 2.92 GPA, applied 2006
          02267 Princeton, 37 MCAT, 3.30 GPA, applied 2005
          00026 Princeton University, 31 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2002
          00487 Princeton University, 35 MCAT, 3.30 GPA, applied 2003
          01165 Princeton University, 33 MCAT, 3.10 GPA, applied 2004
          04056 Princeton University, 37 MCAT, 3.19 GPA, applied 2006
          05606 Princeton University, 39 MCAT, 3.04 GPA, applied 2007
          00937 Princeton University, 30 MCAT, 3.00 GPA, applied 2004
          01886 Princeton University, 40 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2004
          01931 Princeton University, 33 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2004
          01043 Purdue University, 30 MCAT, 3.14 GPA, applied 2004
          05351 Queen's University, 30 MCAT, 3.30 GPA, applied 2006
          05466 Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, 38 MCAT, 3.34 GPA, applied 2007
          01540 Rice University, 32 MCAT, 3.47 GPA, applied 2004
          02624 Rice University, 31 MCAT, 3.27 GPA, applied 2005
          02530 Rutgers University, 30 MCAT, 3.47 GPA, applied 2005
          04643 Rutgers University, 40 MCAT, 3.38 GPA, applied 2006
          02884 Rutgers University - Cook College, 31 MCAT, 3.43 GPA, applied 2005
          00858 Rutgers University, New Brunswick, 31 MCAT, 3.20 GPA, applied 2003
          00826 Saint John's University, 31 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2002
          01355 Samford University, 30 MCAT, 3.34 GPA, applied 2004
          03166 San Diego State University, 32 MCAT, 3.46 GPA, applied 2005
          03383 Santa Clara University, 35 MCAT, 3.49 GPA, applied 2005
          06666 Santa Clara University, 37 MCAT, 2.90 GPA, applied 2001
          06976 Anonymous, 34 MCAT, 3.10 GPA, applied 2007
          00493 Santa Clara University, 30 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2003
          04609 Scripps College, 30 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2006
          02621 Smith College, 31 MCAT, 3.31 GPA, applied 2005
          02864 Smith College, 34 MCAT, 3.45 GPA, applied 2005
          02134 Southern IL University - Edwardsville, 36 MCAT, 3.26 GPA, applied 2005
          02446 St. Bonaventure University, 36 MCAT, 3.23 GPA, applied 2002
          00971 Stanford, 34 MCAT, 3.38 GPA, applied 2004
          06275 stanford, 33 MCAT, 3.00 GPA, applied 2008
          02115 Stanford Univeristy, 35 MCAT, 3.35 GPA, applied 2005
          00001 Stanford University, 35 MCAT, 3.19 GPA, applied 2003
          00605 Stanford University, 35 MCAT, 2.94 GPA, applied 2003
          03183 Stanford University, 31 MCAT, 3.34 GPA, applied 2005
          07792 Anonymous, 38 MCAT, 3.35 GPA, applied 2007
          00310 Stanford University, 36 MCAT, 3.23 GPA, applied 2003
          00327 Stanford University, 30 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2003
          01660 Stanford University, 34 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2004
          01526 Stanford University, 33 MCAT, 3.45 GPA, applied 2004
          01276 Stanford University, 31 MCAT, 3.20 GPA, applied 2004
          03808 Stanford University, 33 MCAT, 3.44 GPA, applied 2006
          05647 Stanford University, 31 MCAT, 3.24 GPA, applied 2006
          01552 Stanford University, 31 MCAT, 3.20 GPA, applied 2004
          05170 Stanford University, 34 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2002
          05493 Stanford University, 35 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2006
          06615 Stevens institute of Technology, 30 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2007
          00938 SUNY Albany, 35 MCAT, 2.80 GPA, applied 2003
          07340 SUNY at Stony Brook, 35 MCAT, 3.10 GPA, applied 2007
          05584 SUNY Binghamton, 30 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2006
          00752 SUNY Buffalo, 32 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2003
          07863 SUNY Geneseo, 34 MCAT, 2.89 GPA, applied 2007
          05073 SUNY Stony Brook, 38 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2006
          00846 SUNY-Binghamton, 35 MCAT, 3.45 GPA, applied 2003
          04183 SUNY-Downstate Medical Center, 30 MCAT, 3.22 GPA, applied 2006
          00909 Swarthmore, 33 MCAT, 3.45 GPA, applied 2001
          03412 Swarthmore College, 33 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2004
          05308 Swarthmore College, 33 MCAT, 3.10 GPA, applied 2007
          04190 Swarthmore College, 32 MCAT, 3.45 GPA, applied 2006
          02694 Syracuse University, 30 MCAT, 3.45 GPA, applied 2005
          00183 Texas A&M University, 38 MCAT, 3.44 GPA, applied 2003
          01475 Texas A&M University, 35 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2004
          00282 Texas A&M University, 30 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2003
          03043 The Citadel, 30 MCAT, 3.19 GPA, applied 2005
          00517 The Evergreen State College, 34 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2003
          05218 The Evergreen State College, 30 MCAT, 0.00 GPA, applied 2006
          06202 The Pennsylvania State University, 32 MCAT, 3.24 GPA, applied 2007
          01226 The University of Chicago, 30 MCAT, 3.28 GPA, applied 2004
          04284 To be disclosed at a later date, 32 MCAT, 3.26 GPA, applied 2006
          07487 Anonymous, 31 MCAT, 3.31 GPA, applied 2007
          04181 Trinity College, 32 MCAT, 3.37 GPA, applied 2004
          04541 Trinity College, 33 MCAT, 3.20 GPA, applied 2006
          01825 Tufts, 30 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2004
          00277 Tufts University, 33 MCAT, 3.44 GPA, applied 2003
          01624 Tufts University, 34 MCAT, 3.30 GPA, applied 2003
          04475 Tufts University, 34 MCAT, 3.46 GPA, applied 2006
          05571 Tufts University, 35 MCAT, 3.37 GPA, applied 2006
          01470 Tufts University, 30 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2004
          05596 Tulane, 31 MCAT, 3.45 GPA, applied 2007
          00563 Tulane University, 31 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2003
          05105 Tulane University, 32 MCAT, 3.45 GPA, applied 2006
          03636 Tulane University, 32 MCAT, 3.34 GPA, applied 2006
          03914 Tulane University, 34 MCAT, 3.29 GPA, applied 2006
          00130 Tulane University, 33 MCAT, 3.29 GPA, applied 2001
          00023 Tulane University, 32 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2003
          00154 Tulane University, 30 MCAT, 3.35 GPA, applied 2003
          00320 Tulane University, 32 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2003
          00885 U of Illinois Urbana-Champaign, 31 MCAT, 3.10 GPA, applied 1998
          00099 U of MN College of Biological Sciences, 31 MCAT, 3.30 GPA, applied 2002
          00496 U Rochester, 34 MCAT, 3.49 GPA, applied 2003
          01641 U.C. Berkeley, 37 MCAT, 3.46 GPA, applied 2004
          02765 UC Berkeley, 35 MCAT, 3.07 GPA, applied 2005
          00785 UC Berkeley, 32 MCAT, 2.86 GPA, applied 2003
          01060 UC Berkeley, 34 MCAT, 3.33 GPA, applied 2001
          05943 UC Berkeley, 30 MCAT, 3.10 GPA, applied 2006
          00859 UC Berkeley, 37 MCAT, 3.39 GPA, applied 2003
          01738 UC Berkeley, 37 MCAT, 2.49 GPA, applied 2000
          04737 UC Berkeley, 34 MCAT, 3.41 GPA, applied 2006
          02258 UC Berkeley, 36 MCAT, 2.90 GPA, applied 2005
          03313 UC Berkeley, 34 MCAT, 3.23 GPA, applied 2005
          02523 UC Berkeley, 37 MCAT, 3.10 GPA, applied 2005
          00712 UC Berkeley, 35 MCAT, 3.47 GPA, applied 2003
          01111 UC Berkeley, 40 MCAT, 3.00 GPA, applied 2004
          01442 UC Berkeley, 37 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2004
          03365 UC Davis, 37 MCAT, 3.37 GPA, applied 2006
          00639 UC Davis, 35 MCAT, 3.30 GPA, applied 2003
          03668 UC San Diego, 34 MCAT, 3.35 GPA, applied 2005
          01181 UC San Diego, 31 MCAT, 3.45 GPA, applied 2004
          00580 UC San Diego, 35 MCAT, 3.44 GPA, applied 2002
          03223 UC San Diego, 36 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2006
          00385 UC Santa Cruz, 30 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2002
           

          jochi1543

          President, Gunner Central
          10+ Year Member
          Apr 4, 2007
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          1. Pre-Medical
            00568 UCLA, 32 MCAT, 3.20 GPA, applied 2003
            00643 UCLA, 34 MCAT, 3.19 GPA, applied 2003
            01864 UCLA, 33 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2004
            00151 UCLA, 32 MCAT, 3.20 GPA, applied 2003
            00629 UCLA, 35 MCAT, 3.49 GPA, applied 2003
            00842 UCLA, 32 MCAT, 3.39 GPA, applied 2003
            01098 ucla, 33 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2004
            02073 UCLA, 32 MCAT, 3.46 GPA, applied 2004
            02349 UCLA, 32 MCAT, 2.90 GPA, applied 2004
            00076 UCLA, 30 MCAT, 3.42 GPA, applied 2002
            01635 ucla, 30 MCAT, 3.36 GPA, applied 2003
            01712 UCLA, 32 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2004
            04099 UCLA, 35 MCAT, 3.47 GPA, applied 2006
            05428 ucla, 31 MCAT, 3.38 GPA, applied 2006
            05583 UCLA, 32 MCAT, 3.36 GPA, applied 2006
            00144 UCLA, 36 MCAT, 3.49 GPA, applied 2002
            00274 UCLA, 33 MCAT, 3.49 GPA, applied 2003
            00515 UCLA, 30 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2003
            03213 UCLA, 32 MCAT, 3.49 GPA, applied 2005
            03557 UCLA, 30 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2005
            04378 UCLA, 30 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2006
            05316 UCLA, 33 MCAT, 3.37 GPA, applied 2006
            01387 UCSB, 33 MCAT, 3.23 GPA, applied 2004
            00571 UCSD, 31 MCAT, 3.30 GPA, applied 2003
            04075 UCSD, 31 MCAT, 3.45 GPA, applied 2006
            00662 UCSD, 30 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2003
            04519 UCSD, 36 MCAT, 3.41 GPA, applied 2006
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            06897 University of MN-TC, 32 MCAT, 3.49 GPA, applied 2007
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            04208 University of Oklahoma, 36 MCAT, 3.23 GPA, applied 2006
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            01813 university of pittsburgh, 37 MCAT, 3.00 GPA, applied 2001
            04157 University of Richmond, 30 MCAT, 2.85 GPA, applied 2006
            05349 University of Saint Thomas, TX, 30 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2006
            01499 University of South Florida, 33 MCAT, 3.17 GPA, applied 2004
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            00168 University of St. Thomas, 32 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2002
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            02058 University of Texas-Austin, 32 MCAT, 3.10 GPA, applied 2005
            00202 University of Toronto, 34 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2003
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            00089 University of Utah, 33 MCAT, 3.41 GPA, applied 2001
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            01776 University of Washington, 33 MCAT, 3.30 GPA, applied 2004
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            00829 University of Wisconsin Madison, 35 MCAT, 3.35 GPA, applied 2002
            07514 University of Wisconsin- Madison, 32 MCAT, 3.16 GPA, applied 2007
            03435 University of Wisconsin-La Crosse, 30 MCAT, 3.34 GPA, applied 2005
            00090 University of Wisconsin-Madison, 33 MCAT, 3.50 GPA, applied 2003
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            02753 Wellesley College, 33 MCAT, 3.45 GPA, applied 2005
            05512 Anonymous, 30 MCAT, 3.26 GPA, applied 2007
            01861 Wheaton College (IL), 32 MCAT, 3.48 GPA, applied 2004
            01867 Wheaton College (IL), 32 MCAT, 3.41 GPA, applied 2005
            05164 Wheaton College (MA), 32 MCAT, 3.30 GPA, applied 2006
            03817 Willamette University, 37 MCAT, 3.40 GPA, applied 2006
            00447 Williams College, 37 MCAT, 3.43 GPA, applied 2003
            04228 Williams College, 33 MCAT, 3.47 GPA, applied 2006
            00789 Williams College, 33 MCAT, 3.17 GPA, applied 2003
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            01020 Yale College, 36 MCAT, 3.25 GPA, applied 2004
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              Hi all,

              I'm in a situation right now and would like some advice.

              I'm sitting here going through a number of threads on this forum and browsing through profiles on Mdapplicants. There are two main thoughts going though my mind. Confusion and hopelessness.

              Everyone here has high GPAs, stellar ECs, great MCAT scores, exceptional LORs. Would this population (SNDers) be considered "typical"? Or is this forum the home to the cream of the crop in the applicant pool? I feel like with my stats, I will NOT stand a chance. With this, I'm quite discouraged.

              Secondly, I'm going to a college (cut-throat Ivy League) which constantly boast the fact that students with a GPA of 3.4+ and MCAT of 30+ stand a good chance of being admitted (~75-80%). Here are my stats-

              Rising Senior (NY State Residence)
              Cum GPA- 3.45
              MCAT- Will take next summer
              BCPM- 3.39
              IF only BCP- 3.30

              Good ECs (mostly off-campus, no clubs), research, plenty of internship, shadowing, and volunteer, working as counselor to people with mental disabilities, will get good LORs.

              As you can see, my stats are only borderline. Comparing my profile to others here, I don't think I'm in good shape... With this, I've decided to take a year off and apply after I get my senior year grades in. I hope to pull to a cumulative GPA of 3.51. My goal is to get at least a 30 on my MCATs.


              What should my realistic expectations be? I've always gave myself the benefit of the doubt and tried to look at the brighter side of things. Now reality is setting in... Any suggestions or advice at this point in time to make myself more competitive?

              Thanks for reading this!

              As long as your numbers are good enough to get you past the cutoffs so you get interviews, don't worry about it. With some of the horror stories I've heard of how ridiculous people act at interviews, just be normal and polite at the interviews and you'll be fine.
               
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                Less than a 3.5 will keep you from getting outright acceptances at good schools. Getting more than a 35 will get you interviews. People really can't give you advice until you take your MCAT, but you still have a shot at this point.
                 

                ryandote

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                  ahhh..... the "IF only GPA."


                  My IF only sophomore-thru-senior-just-counting-biology-and-economics GPA was 4.0 - Harvard, baby Harvard.


                  Now for something constructive- Smoke the MCAT and you'll be fine. Definitely apply if you score 32. Probably apply if you score 29-31. Think about it with a 27-28. Retake if a 26. Give up if you score 25 or below.
                   

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                    SDN posters are considerably above average even when they're being honest. I believe the average to get into a medical school right now is a 3.5 and a 30 MCAT, and that's not from an Ivy League either. Do well on the MCAT and you'll be fine.


                    Completely agree with this piece of advice. Also keep in mind that people here / students at your school will tend to really care about "name-brand" medical schools. Whereas doctors, patients, and other health care workers don't give a ***t where you went to school. As long as you stick with US allopathic schools, the difference when it comes to matching is very marginal.

                    My BCPM gpa is .3 lower than you, and cumulative is .1 lower than you. I had a 32 MCAT and got into medical school, so you really shouldn't have anything to worry about. As an NY resident, I believe you have many options. I'm not quite sure how a lot of NY schools look at NY residents.
                     

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                      I've also heard that grades for specific classes mean more. For instance...if you have A's in your Organic Chem class, that's probably more important than making a C in a (for instance) genetics course. Also, if you are a well-rounded student, I don't think your GPA will kill you.

                      I think at this point, study really hard and make sure you do well on your MCAT. Like others have said...a 3.45 GPA from an Ivy League school isn't bad at all. From what I understand, they like it when students challenge themselves (Ivy League school...also a bonus if you have a tough major?) and are well rounded (great ECs) versus an introvert with a 4.0 and a high MCAT.

                      Good luck with everything!
                       
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                        I've also heard that grades for specific classes mean more. For instance...if you have A's in your Organic Chem class, that's probably more important than making a C in a (for instance) genetics course. Also, if you are a well-rounded student, I don't think your GPA will kill you.

                        I think at this point, study really hard and make sure you do well on your MCAT. Like others have said...a 3.45 GPA from an Ivy League school isn't bad at all. From what I understand, they like it when students challenge themselves (Ivy League school...also a bonus if you have a tough major?) and are well rounded (great ECs) versus an introvert with a 4.0 and a high MCAT.

                        Good luck with everything!

                        Medical schools also know about Ivy League grade inflation. I'm not sure if it's safe to assume that, across the board, you can add a tenth of a point to your GPA if you went to an Ivy League school. That aside though, your GPA is decent regardless of where you went to school and I think you should apply.
                         

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                          Medical schools also know about Ivy League grade inflation. I'm not sure if it's safe to assume that, across the board, you can add a tenth of a point to your GPA if you went to an Ivy League school. That aside though, your GPA is decent regardless of where you went to school and I think you should apply.


                          I'm not so sure about grade inflation at the Ivies (except Harvard). I go to Cornell, and you know what they say about it. Its the easiest one to get into, the hardest one to get out of.

                          There was an article in the school newspaper pointing out that more classes are getting a median of A- or better... regardless, I feel like Cornell is one of the more cut-throat Ivies.
                           

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                            I'm not so sure about grade inflation at the Ivies (except Harvard). I go to Cornell, and you know what they say about it. Its the easiest one to get into, the hardest one to get out of.

                            There was an article in the school newspaper pointing out that more classes are getting a median of A- or better... regardless, I feel like Cornell is one of the more cut-throat Ivies.

                            No offense, but I don't buy the "easiest Ivy to get into, toughest to get out of" myth. I think Cornellians are some of the biggest whiners. Cornell provides top notch education in the sciences, as good as any other Ivy, but its caliber of students is slightly below that of Harvard, Yale, etc. Hence, Cornell isn't actually harder than Harvard, just that its students have a bit more trouble handling the curriculum and expectations which is on par with better schools (leading to a slightly lower graduation rate than other Ivies). Yes, Cornell passes out fewer A's. But its students (your competition) is not as smart as those at Harvard. It is my opinion, therefore, that Cornell is as hard as any other Ivy, no more, no less.

                            Cornell's stats are online: last year, 72% of applicants with 3.4-3.6 GPA and 30-34 MCAT got in. That is a realistic target zone for you and provides you with an excellent shot at med school. Obviously, 35+ MCAT would be even better but it's tough to bank on getting an MCAT that high. Good luck!
                             

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                              Secondly, I'm going to a college (cut-throat Ivy League) which constantly boast the fact that students with a GPA of 3.4+ and MCAT of 30+ stand a good chance of being admitted (~75-80%).

                              Actually, you underestimate this statistic. Last year, among applicants from Cornell in this range, the acceptance rate of 91% and 92% the year before.
                               

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                                I think you perceive Cornellians as whiny because of their hardcore and extremely competitive nature. While it is true that competition exist everywhere, I feel the competitive atmosphere at Cornell is at a whole different level.
                                 

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                                  No offense, but I don't buy the "easiest Ivy to get into, toughest to get out of" myth. I think Cornellians are some of the biggest whiners. Cornell provides top notch education in the sciences, as good as any other Ivy, but its caliber of students is slightly below that of Harvard, Yale, etc. Hence, Cornell isn't actually harder than Harvard, just that its students have a bit more trouble handling the curriculum and expectations which is on par with better schools (leading to a slightly lower graduation rate than other Ivies). Yes, Cornell passes out fewer A's. But its students (your competition) is not as smart as those at Harvard. It is my opinion, therefore, that Cornell is as hard as any other Ivy, no more, no less.

                                  Cornell's stats are online: last year, 72% of applicants with 3.4-3.6 GPA and 30-34 MCAT got in. That is a realistic target zone for you and provides you with an excellent shot at med school. Obviously, 35+ MCAT would be even better but it's tough to bank on getting an MCAT that high. Good luck!

                                  Your right that Cornell's education is in no way inferior to that of Harvard's. But there is a difference.


                                  BTW, the 91% and 64% figure is only true if you score a 35+ on the MCAT. MCAT scores of 30-34 is at 72% and 88%.. (Again with a 3.4-3.6)

                                  I don't think Cornell gives out fewer A's because the student aren't as capable as Harvard kids. If you put a Harvard kid in Cornell, its not a sure thing they'll ace all of the classes at Cornell. It's just that there are different standards between the schools.

                                  BigRedPremed, what year are you? And have you applied? I hope you don't take my comments as insulting. It's nice to have a debate sometimes and I really enjoy hearing the opinions of another Cornellian.
                                   

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                                    There was an article in the school newspaper pointing out that more classes are getting a median of A- or better... regardless, I feel like Cornell is one of the more cut-throat Ivies.

                                    A median of an A- seems very high to me. That means that 50% of the class is getting an A- and up, right? I think that's a very skewed curve, but I can't say whether or not it's due to grade inflation.
                                     

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                                      You searched for applicants:
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                                      The following profiles matched your search:
                                      07742 Anonymous, 34 MCAT, 0.00 GPA, applied 2007
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                                      I don't think the massive dump of text from mdapplicants.com was necessary. A link would have sufficed! :thumbdown:rolleyes:
                                       

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                                        Everyone here has high GPAs, stellar ECs, great MCAT scores, exceptional LORs. Would this population (SNDers) be considered "typical"? Or is this forum the home to the cream of the crop in the applicant pool? I feel like with my stats, I will NOT stand a chance. [...]

                                        Good ECs (mostly off-campus, no clubs), research, plenty of internship, shadowing, and volunteer, working as counselor to people with mental disabilities, will get good LORs. [...]

                                        As you can see, my stats are only borderline. Comparing my profile to others here, I don't think I'm in good shape... With this, I've decided to take a year off and apply after I get my senior year grades in. I hope to pull to a cumulative GPA of 3.51. My goal is to get at least a 30 on my MCATs.

                                        Dude, your numerical stats may be borderline, but you seem to have some amazing EC's, which is much more important than numerical stats past the initial screening. As long as you get a good MCAT score, you'll make it past that screening at most schools.

                                        Also, as others have mentioned, SDN hardly represents the population as a whole. Just looking at the MCAT scores from my test (May 11th), there were only two people (I believe) that reported scores of less than 30. Most people get less than 30 when they take it (average is something like 24). You're looking at a small, very good sample of applicants.
                                         

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                                          No offense, but I don't buy the "easiest Ivy to get into, toughest to get out of" myth.

                                          I grew up in western NY state and took a bunch of field trips to Cornell in grade school/high school. The reputation back then was that it was a hyper-competitive school that was really easy to get out of - usually repeated near the gorge with lots of meaningful glances and head-tilts, wink-wink-nudge-nudge, if you know what I mean.

                                          Yes, Cornell passes out fewer A's. But its students (your competition) is not as smart as those at Harvard. It is my opinion, therefore, that Cornell is as hard as any other Ivy, no more, no less.

                                          Proving your own point?

                                          (No offense. I was a Big Green CS major back in the day, and we wasn't known for our English skills either.)

                                          Fuzzy, good luck on the MCATs.
                                           

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                                            A median of an A- seems very high to me. That means that 50% of the class is getting an A- and up, right? I think that's a very skewed curve, but I can't say whether or not it's due to grade inflation.

                                            Not too sure about the proportion of courses that have medians of A- or better.

                                            But those premed sciences classes tend to curve very low to weed people out. Orgo is curved to a B-, not to sure about other schools though..
                                             

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                                              I don't think its fair to say Cornell kids are dumber than Harvard kids, though I do agree that they probably did not distinguish themselves to quite the same extent as the Harvard kids in high school.

                                              That being said, I have taken classes at both institutions, and the courses at Cornell require more critical thinking and are graded harder, no doubt about it. Harvard students are incredibly smart, don't get me wrong, but Cornell courses grade harder...and from everything I have heard, adcoms are well aware of Cornell's reputation for being difficult. I also have to say I took an upper level science class at another non-ivy school that is pretty well regarded and I was SHOCKED by how much easier it was to well in the course...I breezed through with an A...and I don't think I am smarter than the kids in the class, I think the tests were just easy memorization and did not require critical thinking...

                                              My boyfriend went to another ivy and his transcript actually lists the median grade in each of his science courses, and they were much higher than the median grades at Cornell...the median grade for Gen Chem was a B+ or something, many of his upper level science courses were curved to a A-....
                                               

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                                                Your right that Cornell's education is in no way inferior to that of Harvard's. But there is a difference.


                                                BTW, the 91% and 64% figure is only true if you score a 35+ on the MCAT. MCAT scores of 30-34 is at 72% and 88%.. (Again with a 3.4-3.6)

                                                I don't think Cornell gives out fewer A's because the student aren't as capable as Harvard kids. If you put a Harvard kid in Cornell, its not a sure thing they'll ace all of the classes at Cornell. It's just that there are different standards between the schools.

                                                BigRedPremed, what year are you? And have you applied? I hope you don't take my comments as insulting. It's nice to have a debate sometimes and I really enjoy hearing the opinions of another Cornellian.

                                                I graduated a few weeks ago. I'm not sure why you'd think that your comments are insulting. If anything, they make my GPA look more impressive :laugh:

                                                But, seriously, while Cornell's classes are challenging, I don't think they quite live up to the notoriety. From my experience, Cornell students love to use the excuse that it's supposedly grade-deflated. Instead, of trying to better their GPA, they buy into this "I'm at Cornell, I'm supposed to get a low GPA" mentality.

                                                I graduated as a bio major so I've taken enough science classes to know that only a few (perhaps orgo, intro bio, and genetics) are truly challenging.
                                                 

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                                                  I grew up in western NY state and took a bunch of field trips to Cornell in grade school/high school. The reputation back then was that it was a hyper-competitive school that was really easy to get out of - usually repeated near the gorge with lots of meaningful glances and head-tilts, wink-wink-nudge-nudge, if you know what I mean.



                                                  Proving your own point?

                                                  (No offense. I was a Big Green CS major back in the day, and we wasn't known for our English skills either.)

                                                  Fuzzy, good luck on the MCATs.

                                                  haha I did make a couple of booboos in my first two posts. I actually take pride in my writing. It's probably the major reason that my AO GPA is 4.0 after taking a boatload of humanities courses, including 3 English courses.

                                                  The suicide thing is another myth, one that augments its reputation as an academically-intense school. Cornell's suicide rate is actually slightly below the national average. But, of course, Cornell's suicides are made all the more dramatic by all the gorge-jumping.
                                                   
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