Reapplicant with no interviews - Feeling depressed :/

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I know people are saying that things are slow this semester, but I just don't get it.

I shadowed more, I was elected president of my colleges community service club, and I got a perfect 4.0 this last semester, but I've still heard absolutely nothing from any schools aside from invitations to complete secondary applications.

I know they say persistence is key to getting into dental school, but thinking of another year of meaningless biology and chemistry classes is absolutely crushing me right now.
 
Didn't you get into UNE last year? What schools did you apply to?
 
its great youre doing more stuff but for most applicants and adcoms, numbers speak louder than words. If youre stats were average or below average and you didn't retake your DAT or markedly improve your gpa, that might be why.
 
Why did you decide not to go to UNE last year? I just interviewed there and thought it was a decent school
 
Ok so moving on from last year...I know people who turned down an acceptance and got an interview in the cycle after. So you have a shot.

Plus it is early yet, and I'm sure there are plenty of post-dec (and some pre-dec) interviews still to come.
 
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Sorry for the late response! Stats aren't great with a 3.6 overall and 3.4 science (with an upward trend), and a 21 AA on the DAT.

As for why I didn't go with UNE, the school just really didn't impress me, and the tuition was almost double with cost of living for the more local schools. The facilities are obviously state of the art and brand new, but when we were asking our student tour guide how intense the workload was, she said that since the classes changed to pass/fail that you could get away with sleeping during the classes if you wanted (trying to make it sound like a positive aspect of the school). So that made me worry about what kind of education I'd be getting initially.

Looking back, I think I should have just stuck with UNE rather than face the uncertainty this cycle. But I decided to gamble since I was on the alternate list for my state school, and the guy from our admissions committee said there was nothing wrong with my application, it was just that I was a little vague in my descriptions of my extracurricular positions and when they're shaving it down they look for any way to rank the interviewees for the final seats.

So between paying double the tuition and living in portland, vs my state school telling me there was a good chance next year, I guess I was thinking "Hey, one year waiting to save $230k and stay local isn't so bad". But depending on how this cycle goes, it might be so bad.

Also in my interview with my state school (and many others from what I've heard), the hypothetical came up of "If you were rejected from the next entering class and accepted somewhere else, what would you do?". And everyone always says they would reject the other school's offer and reapply the next cycle. Should I try and keep my decision from last cycle more secretive, or would that be seen as a positive for my state school?
 
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Well, judging by what you've said, it sounds like you have a legitimate shot at your state school this year. Hope you get in!
 
Honestly, you shouldn't believe these schools when they say oh you were vague about this ec or about that
what a bunch of liars!
They will lie to get your money! That's the truth!

When they rejected you, don't believe their lies when they say try next year!

They rejected you for two reasons:

Either your stats
or at the interview, they didn't LIKE you.

Other than that... Ec! Really! Do you think any school would reject a good applicant based on his EC being Vague, what that even means?


Numbers talk!
Personality talks!
Community work matters!

EC is nothing but additional fluff.


With that being said. Since you improved your gpa, I guess you have a chance, but don't lose hope.

and don't listen to SDNErs who tells you to reject an invitation to save money!
 
Faefly said:
Honestly, you shouldn't believe these schools when they say oh you were vague about this ec or about that
what a bunch of liars!
They will lie to get your money! That's the truth!

When they rejected you, don't believe their lies when they say try next year!

They rejected you for two reasons:

Either your stats
or at the interview, they didn't LIKE you.

Other than that... Ec! Really! Do you think any school would reject a good applicant based on his EC being Vague, what that even means?


Numbers talk!
Personality talks!
Community work matters!

EC is nothing but additional fluff.


With that being said. Since you improved your gpa, I guess you have a chance, but don't lose hope.

and don't listen to SDNErs who tells you to reject an invitation to save money!
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According to OP, OP chose to gamble to save money the following cycle. OP chose to not attend the school because OP wasn't impressed by the school.
 
ThirdTimesTheCharm said:
According to OP, OP chose to gamble to save money the following cycle. OP chose to not attend the school because OP wasn't impressed by the school.
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I read what he wrote. I also read multiple threads where people were conflicted and some people told them to reject and apply next year to their state schools, so I wrote that final comment. So, even if he didn't ask last year about this matter, he might have been swayed by what he read on other people posts who had similar conditions.
 
Following. I really hope it works out for you in the end. You did what you thought was best at the time. You shouldn't be upset about that at all! Best of luck. I can't wait to hear good things. Hang in there, OP 🙂
 
I’ve heard from multiple advisors that schools really don’t like it when someone turns down admissions to wait for something better. In their eyes you had the opportunity to be a dentist and passed it up. i know it’s tough to make the financial commitment, but that’s kinda the way it goes. Best of luck to you
 
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Faefly said:
Honestly, you shouldn't believe these schools when they say oh you were vague about this ec or about that
what a bunch of liars!
They will lie to get your money! That's the truth!

When they rejected you, don't believe their lies when they say try next year!

They rejected you for two reasons:

Either your stats
or at the interview, they didn't LIKE you.

Other than that... Ec! Really! Do you think any school would reject a good applicant based on his EC being Vague, what that even means?


Numbers talk!
Personality talks!
Community work matters!

EC is nothing but additional fluff.


With that being said. Since you improved your gpa, I guess you have a chance, but don't lose hope.

and don't listen to SDNErs who tells you to reject an invitation to save money!
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You haven't even taken the DAT yet, so how can you claim to know the real reason they rejected him? To make a claim that admissions committees simply lie to get your money is absurd, especially when many re-applicants are in fact successful their second time applying after working with, you guessed it, admissions committees to improve their applications.

To the OP: this cycle has been nothing short of unusual in terms of what to expect from schools. Talking closely to a bunch of people, it's been a shot in the dark where you do/don't receive interviews from. I sincerely hope everything works out for you in the end.
 
Life of Pablo said:
You haven't even taken the DAT yet, so how can you claim to know the real reason they rejected him? To make a claim that admissions committees simply lie to get your money is absurd, especially when many re-applicants are in fact successful their second time applying after working with, you guessed it, admissions committees to improve their applications.

To the OP: this cycle has been nothing short of unusual in terms of what to expect from schools. Talking closely to a bunch of people, it's been a shot in the dark where you do/don't receive interviews from. I sincerely hope everything works out for you in the end.
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This is a free forum. I can say my opinion and you can say it too, no need for personal attacks.

Yes, schools lie , and they want our money or else they make tuition free for everybody. Do I have proof for what I said, no I don't but you don't have proof for what you said the other day as well, you posted something that crushed some people hopes without any proof.

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Life of Pablo said:
As you interview later and later (even if it is Pre-December), admissions committees fill up their class and it becomes more difficult to get in. If you think about it, it makes sense. Why would admissions committees wait until November, sometimes 3-4 months after the first interviews, to go over everyone's app and decide? They wouldn't be able to accurately remember each candidate as well.
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You know hundreds read the topics on SDN, and I believe you said that schools are choosing people as we speak, so people need to get the earliest interviews possible or else their chances are slimmer each day. This was your opinion based on what some school told you, you shared it and you didn't think twice about it, but it is not necessarily true.

So, yeah!

Talk about double standards.
 
The cost of a dental education is CRAZY these days - so you should be both excited and inspired about where you are going to go to dental school. If you were unimpressed by UNE - why go there? I know its a gamble, but i think you have a good gpa and stats. Its still early in the cycle, and you have valid reasons for trying again. Believe in yourself and keep your chin up, because the application process is stressful enough!
 
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Faefly said:
This is a free forum. I can say my opinion and you can say it too, no need for personal attacks.

Yes, schools lie , and they want our money or else they make tuition free for everybody. Do I have proof for what I said, no I don't but you don't have proof for what you said the other day as well, you posted something that crushed some people hopes without any proof.

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You know hundreds read the topics on SDN, and I believe you said that schools are choosing people as we speak, so people need to get the earliest interviews possible or else their chances are slimmer each day. This was your opinion based on what some school told you, you shared it and you didn't think twice about it, but it is not necessarily true.

So, yeah!

Talk about double standards.
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?????

Okay so just because dental school is not free doesn’t mean they’ll lie to get your money. Like literally they need to have tuition to keep the school running, especially private schools. Secondly, it is basically a fact at this point that the earlier you apply, the better chances you have of getting an interview. So yes, as the days go by your chances are slimmer each day.
 
Faefly said:
This is a free forum. I can say my opinion and you can say it too, no need for personal attacks.

Yes, schools lie , and they want our money or else they make tuition free for everybody. Do I have proof for what I said, no I don't but you don't have proof for what you said the other day as well, you posted something that crushed some people hopes without any proof.

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You know hundreds read the topics on SDN, and I believe you said that schools are choosing people as we speak, so people need to get the earliest interviews possible or else their chances are slimmer each day. This was your opinion based on what some school told you, you shared it and you didn't think twice about it, but it is not necessarily true.

So, yeah!

Talk about double standards.
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It's not double standards. I'm sharing information passed to me from admissions committees themselves to help others on these forums out. My proof in what I said can be backed by people like @Zen0321 who were at my interviews where they told us that. Also, some D1's have told me the same thing. Again, if you're going to make comments about the integrity of admissions committees, be able to back those claims up instead of calling them all "a bunch of liars!"
 
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Life of Pablo said:
You haven't even taken the DAT yet, so how can you claim to know the real reason they rejected him? To make a claim that admissions committees simply lie to get your money is absurd, especially when many re-applicants are in fact successful their second time applying after working with, you guessed it, admissions committees to improve their applications.

To the OP: this cycle has been nothing short of unusual in terms of what to expect from schools. Talking closely to a bunch of people, it's been a shot in the dark where you do/don't receive interviews from. I sincerely hope everything works out for you in the end.
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You haven't even been accepted yet so take a slice of humble pie and sit the hell down. Seem like such a little twerp
 
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Faefly said:
This is a free forum. I can say my opinion and you can say it too, no need for personal attacks.

Yes, schools lie , and they want our money or else they make tuition free for everybody. Do I have proof for what I said, no I don't but you don't have proof for what you said the other day as well, you posted something that crushed some people hopes without any proof.

.


You know hundreds read the topics on SDN, and I believe you said that schools are choosing people as we speak, so people need to get the earliest interviews possible or else their chances are slimmer each day. This was your opinion based on what some school told you, you shared it and you didn't think twice about it, but it is not necessarily true.

So, yeah!

Talk about double standards.
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You sound like squidward when he was salty about not being able to win a stuffed animal from the skill crane smh smh 🙄
 
Faefly said:
This is a free forum. I can say my opinion and you can say it too, no need for personal attacks.

Yes, schools lie , and they want our money or else they make tuition free for everybody. Do I have proof for what I said, no I don't but you don't have proof for what you said the other day as well, you posted something that crushed some people hopes without any proof.
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Well then, i guess the assistant dean of a dental school lied to our faces @Life of Pablo.

Also if you dont have any proof then why are you saying outright that they lie? please educate yourself before posting because, quote on quote: hundreds read the topics on SDN.

This was your opinion based on you not being factual... you shared it and you didn't think twice about it.
So, yeah!

Talk about double standards.
 
As expected, two people arguing.

But one person decided to bring his friends to fight for him, how typical.

Anyway.

Guys, you have your opinion and I have mine.

I am not backing up, you are not backing up!

I have to go study! Enjoy your wait and make fun as much as you like.
 
I am sorry too Op.
Best of luck.
 
Faefly said:
Honestly, you shouldn't believe these schools when they say oh you were vague about this ec or about that
what a bunch of liars!
They will lie to get your money! That's the truth!

When they rejected you, don't believe their lies when they say try next year!

They rejected you for two reasons:

Either your stats
or at the interview, they didn't LIKE you.

Other than that... Ec! Really! Do you think any school would reject a good applicant based on his EC being Vague, what that even means?


Numbers talk!
Personality talks!
Community work matters!

EC is nothing but additional fluff.


With that being said. Since you improved your gpa, I guess you have a chance, but don't lose hope.

and don't listen to SDNErs who tells you to reject an invitation to save money!
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With the interview coming up soon, is there any consensus on how I talk about rejecting the other school?

This really is the school I rejected UNE for, and I've stated multiple times in interviews that if I didn't make the cut and was accepted somewhere else that I would reject their offer and reapply at my state school. Would this help my chances by showing how much I want to attend their school specifically? For any other schools I interview at I'm obviously not going to bring it up, but I'm a little tempted for this interview.

Or it could be a horrible idea.
 
Veovis said:
I've stated multiple times in interviews that if I didn't make the cut and was accepted somewhere else that I would reject their offer and reapply at my state school. Would this help my chances by showing how much I want to attend their school specifically?
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I wouldn't do this, personally. It can send the message that you are less interested in the profession than is desirable for an applicant (after all, you would be turning down the opportunity to become a dentist simply because you weren't accepted at a specific institution). It would also raise the question of why you are applying to other schools in the first place if you're just going to turn those acceptances down.
 
Illumident said:
I would follow up with interest if you are waitlisted at your state school, but I wouldn't bring up your decision during the interview without being prompted, for reasons mentioned above.

You may be asked about your re-applicant status and why you turned down UNE when you chose to apply there last cycle (and other schools this cycle).
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That does make a lot of sense. I'll stay away from the topic during the interviews and just see where it goes!
 
I have read lots of unhelpful responds in this thread and apologize if its not helping your situation.
Try to keep a positive attitude and realize you cant change the past i am sure you will see at the end of the day that things work out in one way or another.
 
DentalHopeful16679 said:
I have read lots of unhelpful responds in this thread and apologize if its not helping your situation.
Try to keep a positive attitude and realize you cant change the past i am sure you will see at the end of the day that things work out in one way or another.
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Nah it's actually all been pretty helpful! I mean, I just made this thread just to vent about how worried I was not hearing back from schools, but I'm feeling better this month ha
 
Hey guys, just as an update I only had one interview pre-dec for my state school, and I just got the call saying I was accepted!

Rejecting my first acceptance and choosing to wait a year ended up saving me $200,000 and I get to stay in-state, but if anyone reads this thread in the future I can't say that I recommend taking the risk. That being said, I'm so freaking happy.
 
Damn dude that was risky but congrats!
 
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Veovis said:
Hey guys, just as an update I only had one interview pre-dec for my state school, and I just got the call saying I was accepted!

Rejecting my first acceptance and choosing to wait a year ended up saving me $200,000 and I get to stay in-state, but if anyone reads this thread in the future I can't say that I recommend taking the risk. That being said, I'm so freaking happy.
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What school?
 
Veovis said:
Hey guys, just as an update I only had one interview pre-dec for my state school, and I just got the call saying I was accepted!

Rejecting my first acceptance and choosing to wait a year ended up saving me $200,000 and I get to stay in-state, but if anyone reads this thread in the future I can't say that I recommend taking the risk. That being said, I'm so freaking happy.
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Congrats! You deserve and and made a great decision 🙂
 
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