Regarding Speciality Salaries and Work Hours

[Marquis_Phoenix]

From this source: http://residency.wustl.edu/medadmin...62353a93c5c35cb186256f850071bd86?OpenDocument

Anesthesiology

Training
1 transitional/preliminary year
3 years of residency
Categorical and Advanced positions available
These are minimum requirements. Some programs may have longer residencies.

Fellowships
Subspecialty Length
Critical Care Medicine
Pain Management
Pediatric Anesthesiology 1-2 years
1 year
1 year

Lifestyle
Mean Salary $244,700
Median Salary $250,000
Average hours worked per week: 58.7
Source (if not listed above): Physician Socioeconomic Statistics. c. 2003 Edition, American Medical Association

Neurosurgery

Training
6 years of residency
Includes general surgery internship year.
Categorical and advanced positions available
These are minimum requirements. Some programs may have longer residencies.

Fellowships
Subspecialty Length
Cerebrovascular Surgery
Epilepsy Surgery
Interventional Neuroradiology
Neuro-trauma
Neurooncology
Neurosurgical Critical Care
Pediatric Neurological Surgery
Peripheral Nerve Surgery
Skull-base Surgery
Spine Surgery
Stereotactic and Functional Neurosurgery N/A
N/A
N/A
N/A
N/A
N/A
2 years
N/A
N/A
N/A
N/A

Lifestyle
Mean Salary $275,200
Median Salary $230,000
Average hours worked per week: 59.6
Source: Physician Marketplace Statistics 1997/1998 c. 1998 by American Medical Association and Socioeconomic Characteristics of Medical Practice 1997 c. 1997 by American Medical Association.
Source (if not listed above): Physician Socioeconomic Statistics. c. 2003 Edition, American Medical Association

So comparing the cushy lifestyle versus that nicknamed the "jealous mistress," I'm confused as to why this is the case. Work hours are virtually identical. So perhaps somebody could enlighten me as to what I'm missing? (Obviously something IS missing)

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[OncoCaP]

From this source: http://residency.wustl.edu/medadmin...62353a93c5c35cb186256f850071bd86?OpenDocument

Anesthesiology
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Average hours worked per week: 58.7
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Neurosurgery
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Average hours worked per week: 59.6
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So comparing the cushy lifestyle versus that nicknamed the "jealous mistress," I'm confused as to why this is the case. Work hours are virtually identical. So perhaps somebody could enlighten me as to what I'm missing? (Obviously something IS missing)

Maybe it's because anesthesiologists usually get to schedule their hours a bit more and they often work an early shift. Neurosurgeons tend to work a more irregular schedule (on-call). However, there are variations within each specialty, of course. Neurosurgeons who do mostly back surgeries might have it easier, for example, than the head trauma folks.

 

[J ROD]

Also, Anesthesiologist usually get a fair amount of vacation time as compared to surgical fields and they do not have to round.

 

[Pinkertinkle]

What's dermatology?

 

[OncoCaP]

What's dermatology?

Training
1 transitional/preliminary year
3 years of residency
Categorical and advanced positions available
These are minimum requirements. Some programs may have longer residencies.

Fellowships Subspecialty Length
Dermatopathology 1 year

Lifestyle Mean Salary $219,500
Median Salary $180,000
Average hours worked per week: 42

Source (if not listed above): Physician Socioeconomic Statistics. c. 2003 Edition, American Medical Association

 

[RxnMan]

...Mean Salary $275,200
Median Salary $230,000
Average hours worked per week: 59.6
Source: Physician Marketplace Statistics 1997/1998 c. 1998 by American Medical Association and Socioeconomic Characteristics of Medical Practice 1997 c. 1997 by American Medical Association.
Source (if not listed above): Physician Socioeconomic Statistics. c. 2003 Edition, American Medical Association

So comparing the cushy lifestyle versus that nicknamed the "jealous mistress," I'm confused as to why this is the case. Work hours are virtually identical. So perhaps somebody could enlighten me as to what I'm missing? (Obviously something IS missing)

Supply of each speciality? The demand of the particular area of the country for a given speciality?

 

[fireball]

what about optho...?

as far as neuro vs anest.
In the OR neuro big boss and anesth the boss when neuro is not around....
With anest.. you definitely have the lifestyle and salary but you ultimately lack some of the prestige and patient control no matter how much they preach about being in charge of the doctor...And the CRNAs are causing some problems over there in their camp....some want to be recognized as equlal ect.....

I guess optho have to be concerned with optometry to some extent....

 

[NCF145]

From this source: http://residency.wustl.edu/medadmin...62353a93c5c35cb186256f850071bd86?OpenDocument

Anesthesiology

Training
1 transitional/preliminary year
3 years of residency
Categorical and Advanced positions available
These are minimum requirements. Some programs may have longer residencies.

Fellowships
Subspecialty Length
Critical Care Medicine
Pain Management
Pediatric Anesthesiology 1-2 years
1 year
1 year

Lifestyle
Mean Salary $244,700
Median Salary $250,000
Average hours worked per week: 58.7
Source (if not listed above): Physician Socioeconomic Statistics. c. 2003 Edition, American Medical Association

Neurosurgery

Training
6 years of residency
Includes general surgery internship year.
Categorical and advanced positions available
These are minimum requirements. Some programs may have longer residencies.

Fellowships
Subspecialty Length
Cerebrovascular Surgery
Epilepsy Surgery
Interventional Neuroradiology
Neuro-trauma
Neurooncology
Neurosurgical Critical Care
Pediatric Neurological Surgery
Peripheral Nerve Surgery
Skull-base Surgery
Spine Surgery
Stereotactic and Functional Neurosurgery N/A
N/A
N/A
N/A
N/A
N/A
2 years
N/A
N/A
N/A
N/A

Lifestyle
Mean Salary $275,200
Median Salary $230,000
Average hours worked per week: 59.6
Source: Physician Marketplace Statistics 1997/1998 c. 1998 by American Medical Association and Socioeconomic Characteristics of Medical Practice 1997 c. 1997 by American Medical Association.
Source (if not listed above): Physician Socioeconomic Statistics. c. 2003 Edition, American Medical Association

So comparing the cushy lifestyle versus that nicknamed the "jealous mistress," I'm confused as to why this is the case. Work hours are virtually identical. So perhaps somebody could enlighten me as to what I'm missing? (Obviously something IS missing)

Your numbers for Neuro are way off. According to the American Medical Group Association, the median salary for neurosurgeons is $391,250.

Anesthesiology is $278,964 (with pain management at 280,130 and critical care at 215,462).

Opthamology: $240,265 (retinal surgery 334,933 and refractive surgery 344,644).

Originally Posted by RxnMan
Supply of each speciality? The demand of the particular area of the country for a given speciality?

For Neuro* here are the stats:
80.9% in private practice and 14.9% in academics.
29.3% experience difficulty in obtaining their preferred employment position. 227 applicants competed for 143 positions in the 2002 match.
Average USMLE was 230.

For Anesth.* the stats are:
75% in private practice and 19% in academics
13.8% experienced difficulty in obtaining their preferred employment position.
1588 applicants competed for 1169 positions in the 2002 match.

*stats from the AMA