MD & DO Reinventor: to skip or not to skip a cycle

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Dear @Goro, @gyngyn, @Catalystik, @LizzyM, @Med Ed, @gonnif, and @HomeSkool:

Question 1: I am trying to decide whether to reapply this cycle or wait until my third and final shot before my MCAT score expires. WAMC? Should I skip a cycle?

Estimated stats at time of application if I apply this upcoming cycle (2018-2019):
  • cGPA: ~3.36
  • sGPA: ~3.39
  • Strong, consistent upward trend starting from when I returned to college as premed in January 2015.
  • MCAT: 519
  • State of residence: Oregon
  • Ethnicity: Caucasian
  • Undergraduate: a non-prestigious university
  • Clinical Community Service: Hospital volunteer on Family Medicine and Acute Care units, ~300 hours , ~Nov 2016-present.
  • Shadowing: ~60 hours in a decent variety of specialties, including Family Medicine.
  • Non-clinical community service: ESL teacher to Spanish-speaking day laborers and other assorted tasks to support the community and the organization. ~80 hours. November 2017-present (~6.5 months).
  • Part-time paid teaching (~5 months).
  • 100 hours of volunteering in a lab for 3 months. No results.
  • As of today, ~343 hours working on an independent study / DIY senior thesis since January 24th, 2018. Only about 80% finished. Will require several hundred more hours to finish properly.
Estimated stats at time of application if I apply this upcoming cycle (2018-2019):
  • Everything probably the same except:
  • 150+ hours of non-clinical community service combined as an ESL teacher and a neighborhood mediator for ~1.5 and ~1 year, respectively.
  • Clinical experience: >300 hours, probably including some documented experience in India.
  • More teaching, hopefully for at least 1 year.
  • At least a finished DIY thesis from my independent study course, I hope.
Schools:

Whenever I apply, to mitigate the risk of not getting in, I will apply early and broadly to DO schools, my state MD school, and MD schools that reward reinvention and do holistic review.

Question 2: Might a DIY thesis give me research credit? It is hypothesis-driven rational/theoretical (as opposed to empirical/experimental) research.

For reference, the description of level 4 research on the WARS says:

"Significant, sustained research activity, generally for at least 2 years. Applicants in this category may have a poster presentation, a middle author publication in a medium- or low-impact journal, an abstract, or a thesis. These applicants have a strong research focus and perform research above the level of the average undergraduate (emphasis added; @WedgeDawg 2017)."

Question 3: What else should I do to improve my application if I skip a cycle? What might increase my chances enough to make it worth it? Should I go back to school again as a post-bacc (I'd rather go write, work, and volunteer in India for a few months, but I would consider biting the bullet…again).

I'm very grateful for your help. Thank you.
 
Continue adding nonclinical service to others. Maybe take two-three more science classes to maintain upward trend.
I think it's worth applying this cycle.

I recommend:
ORHS
U Tx Rio Grande (yup; play up the service as an ESL teacher)
Cal U MD
Nova MD
Netter
Drexel
EVMS
Wake
Jefferson
Gtown
GWU
NYMC
Albany
Loyola
SLU
Tulane
Hofstra
U Miami
Case
Dartmouth
Mayo
Tufts
Pitt
Duke OR Vandy OR UCSF OR Columbia OR BU
Any DO school. Start list with both Westerns. PacNW, Touro-CA, TUNCOM, AZCOM, BCOM. You know which ones I don't like.
 
Your app looks very solid and I'm surprised you didn't find success with your last cycle. Assuming your numbers were the same, what do you think went wrong the last time around?
 
Continue adding nonclinical service to others. Maybe take two-three more science classes to maintain upward trend.
I think it's worth applying this cycle.

I recommend:
ORHS
U Tx Rio Grande (yup; play up the service as an ESL teacher)
Cal U MD
Nova MD
Netter
Drexel
EVMS
Wake
Jefferson
Gtown
GWU
NYMC
Albany
Loyola
SLU
Tulane
Hofstra
U Miami
Case
Dartmouth
Mayo
Tufts
Pitt
Duke OR Vandy OR UCSF OR Columbia OR BU
Any DO school. Start list with both Westerns. PacNW, Touro-CA, TUNCOM, AZCOM, BCOM. You know which ones I don't like.

Thank you so much. I am pleasantly surprised by multiple aspects of your reply. I need a little time to process this. Thank you.
 
Your app looks very solid and I'm surprised you didn't find success with your last cycle. Assuming your numbers were the same, what do you think went wrong the last time around?

Many reasons, most notably deficiencies in shadowing and non-clinical community service and essays that were not sensitive to the culture of medicine.
 
Dear @Goro, @gyngyn, @Catalystik, @LizzyM, @Med Ed, @gonnif, and @HomeSkool:

Question 1: I am trying to decide whether to reapply this cycle or wait until my third and final shot before my MCAT score expires. WAMC? Should I skip a cycle?

Estimated stats at time of application if I apply this upcoming cycle (2018-2019):
  • cGPA: ~3.36
  • sGPA: ~3.39
  • Strong, consistent upward trend starting from when I returned to college as premed in January 2015.
  • MCAT: 519
  • State of residence: Oregon
  • Ethnicity: Caucasian
  • Undergraduate: a non-prestigious university
  • Clinical Community Service: Hospital volunteer on Family Medicine and Acute Care units, ~300 hours , ~Nov 2016-present.
  • Shadowing: ~60 hours in a decent variety of specialties, including Family Medicine.
  • Non-clinical community service: ESL teacher to Spanish-speaking day laborers and other assorted tasks to support the community and the organization. ~80 hours. November 2017-present (~6.5 months).
  • Part-time paid teaching (~5 months).
  • 100 hours of volunteering in a lab for 3 months. No results.
  • As of today, ~343 hours working on an independent study / DIY senior thesis since January 24th, 2018. Only about 80% finished. Will require several hundred more hours to finish properly.
Estimated stats at time of application if I apply this upcoming cycle (2018-2019):
  • Everything probably the same except:
  • 150+ hours of non-clinical community service combined as an ESL teacher and a neighborhood mediator for ~1.5 and ~1 year, respectively.
  • Clinical experience: >300 hours, probably including some documented experience in India.
  • More teaching, hopefully for at least 1 year.
  • At least a finished DIY thesis from my independent study course, I hope.
Schools:

Whenever I apply, to mitigate the risk of not getting in, I will apply early and broadly to DO schools, my state MD school, and MD schools that reward reinvention and do holistic review.

Question 2: Might a DIY thesis give me research credit? It is hypothesis-driven rational/theoretical (as opposed to empirical/experimental) research.

For reference, the description of level 4 research on the WARS says:

"Significant, sustained research activity, generally for at least 2 years. Applicants in this category may have a poster presentation, a middle author publication in a medium- or low-impact journal, an abstract, or a thesis. These applicants have a strong research focus and perform research above the level of the average undergraduate (emphasis added; @WedgeDawg 2017)."

Question 3: What else should I do to improve my application if I skip a cycle? What might increase my chances enough to make it worth it? Should I go back to school again as a post-bacc (I'd rather go write, work, and volunteer in India for a few months, but I would consider biting the bullet…again).

I'm very grateful for your help. Thank you.

Have you received interview invites? If so, have you sought feedback?
 
Have you received interview invites? If so, have you sought feedback?

No, none. However, I have sought and am grateful to have received feedback that I believe has made me relatively more prepared for interviews than I would be otherwise. Any recommendations for improvement?
 
Continue adding nonclinical service to others. Maybe take two-three more science classes to maintain upward trend.
I think it's worth applying this cycle.

I recommend:
ORHS
U Tx Rio Grande (yup; play up the service as an ESL teacher)
Cal U MD
Nova MD
Netter
Drexel
EVMS
Wake
Jefferson
Gtown
GWU
NYMC
Albany
Loyola
SLU
Tulane
Hofstra
U Miami
Case
Dartmouth
Mayo
Tufts
Pitt
Duke OR Vandy OR UCSF OR Columbia OR BU
Any DO school. Start list with both Westerns. PacNW, Touro-CA, TUNCOM, AZCOM, BCOM. You know which ones I don't like.

Dear Dr. Goro,

I will apply to this school list whether I decide to apply this cycle or the next. I will also plan on taking 3 more science courses, and I will continue to serve people. I'm still processing the rest. Thank you again. :bow:
 
Have you received interview invites? If so, have you sought feedback?

Dear Dr. Med Ed,

I will practice and seek feedback on my interview skills in additional, standard ways. Thank you.
 
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