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I was sooo shocked to see this e-mail. I got excited thinking it was an invite to only be let down real hard.

I thought I had a decent chance to at least get an interview. I wonder if one of my letters of recommendation or my personal statement are not good. I know that this is sad, but I am really hoping this is a mistake! My name is not even on the rejection it just says dear applicant, maybe she attached the wrong file lol prob not I know.

My stats are 3.6 sGPA, 3.6 oGPA ,with a 19/19/20 DAT.

Did anyone else get this devastating news today or was I let down all on my own?
 
wow, that's not looking good for me then, i have a slightly lower gpa, but higher dat.

where the section scores for your dat pretty balanced? i know some schools reject if one section doesn't meet their minimum cut-off
 
Motivated87 said:
I was sooo shocked to see this e-mail. I got excited thinking it was an invite to only be let down real hard.

I thought I had a decent chance to at least get an interview. I wonder if one of my letters of recommendation or my personal statement are not good. I know that this is sad, but I am really hoping this is a mistake! My name is not even on the rejection it just says dear applicant, maybe she attached the wrong file lol prob not I know.

My stats are 3.6 sGPA, 3.6 oGPA ,with a 19/19/20 DAT.

Did anyone else get this devastating news today or was I let down all on my own?
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Were you in-state?? Sorry about the rejection though. Don't put too much thought into it. My first response from schools was a rejection and I was freaking out. Thinking the same as you; were my letters bad, my personal statement, my numbers... Then I got 4 interviews with actually pretty much the same grades as you 19/19/21 3.5, 3.6. So don't worry, just move on
 
My DAT scores are balanced. I have 19 on everything except an 18 in QR and 20 in PAT.

I also had 3 interviews already but I really had U of M high on my list. I am more upset then worried because I really wanted to go there. Just upset that I was not given further consideration.

Also I am out of state. I live in Canada but I am an American citizen so I thought I would be considered as an out of state applicant.
 
Motivated87 said:
My DAT scores are balanced. I have 19 on everything except an 18 in QR and 20 in PAT.

I also had 3 interviews already but I really had U of M high on my list. I am more upset then worried because I really wanted to go there. Just upset that I was not given further consideration.

Also I am out of state. I live in Canada but I am an American citizen so I thought I would be considered as an out of state applicant.
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Well state-schools are like that. I got the same email yesterday too. When you are out of State your chances are much much lower than when you are in state.
 
Same thing, happened to me last year, I got accepted to 4 other schools... I had even better stat than you did and I was in-state also, and Michigan was my alma mater... Worst day of my last year...
 
I got the rejection letter yesterday, thought it was an interview letter too, and couldn't have been more surprised. I'm OOS, but I thought my stats were good enough for at least an interview:


My stats are 3.65 sGPA, 3.75 oGPA ,with a 22/23/21 DAT.

Maybe it was something else in my application? Does anyone know if you can call and ask someone why you were rejected?
 
hsali3 said:
I got the rejection letter yesterday, thought it was an interview letter too, and couldn't have been more surprised. I'm OOS, but I thought my stats were good enough for at least an interview:


My stats are 3.65 sGPA, 3.75 oGPA ,with a 22/23/21 DAT.

Maybe it was something else in my application? Does anyone know if you can call and ask someone why you were rejected?
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I was thinking about calling but now after hearing how there are many others like yourself with highly competitive stats that got rejected I am starting to agree with previous posts that it is an out of state issue.
Too bad I really had my hopes up with this school.
 
If I remember correctly, their in-state/out-of-state acceptance ratio is around 60/40. 40% out-of-state acceptance is pretty good for a state school...
 
Motivated87 said:
I was sooo shocked to see this e-mail. I got excited thinking it was an invite to only be let down real hard.

I thought I had a decent chance to at least get an interview. I wonder if one of my letters of recommendation or my personal statement are not good. I know that this is sad, but I am really hoping this is a mistake! My name is not even on the rejection it just says dear applicant, maybe she attached the wrong file lol prob not I know.

My stats are 3.6 sGPA, 3.6 oGPA ,with a 19/19/20 DAT.

Did anyone else get this devastating news today or was I let down all on my own?
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A little arrogant are we? From the tone of this post, I was thinking you had a 4.0 and a 23AA or something. 3.6 and 19 is no where near "surefire interview" status, nor is it good enough to feel that a rejection is a total blindside. You're an "average" applicant, and not all "average" applicants get an interview, especially if nothing else pops out about you. I don't think its an "out of state" issue at all, maybe your GPA is from a "lower level" school, or you lack any extracurriculars. Your DAT doesn't scream, "you must interview me!" either. Sounds like you're in denial about your application/credentials and just want to blame the chool. Just suck it up and enjoy your other interviews.

As for the 3.65 and 22/23 guy, HE should be shocked about not getting an interview lol.
 
ive been saying this for the past 2 years. 19 AA is just way not competitive anymore. 5 years ago maybe, but now there are just sooo many ppl getting 22's.
 
THINKOFMYFUTURE said:
ive been saying this for the past 2 years. 19 AA is just way not competitive anymore. 5 years ago maybe, but now there are just sooo many ppl getting 22's.
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Then why is 22 and 21 still 93%+ ??? I agree though, a 19 is not nearly as competitive as it used to be. But it's not going to get your application tossed out automatically. And your evidence that "so many ppl are getting 22's" is based on what, SDN and predents?? There are few schools that average a DAT 20+, therefore, they let in a good number or applicants with DAT's under 20. A lot of averages have risen into the 19.5's and up, but that still means students with 18's and 19's are being admitted.

And yes, I have a 19...😉

And Americanpierg said you shouldn't be suprised, not that a 19 was lousy. I agree it's average on the competitive scale and rejection will happen more than often. But Motivated 87, it's understandable to be upset, regardless of your scores.
 
THINKOFMYFUTURE said:
ive been saying this for the past 2 years. 19 AA is just way not competitive anymore. 5 years ago maybe, but now there are just sooo many ppl getting 22's.
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Ha, I got a 19 AA and I have 9 interviews so far...I would like to think Im competitive at this point.
 
THINKOFMYFUTURE said:
ive been saying this for the past 2 years. 19 AA is just way not competitive anymore. 5 years ago maybe, but now there are just sooo many ppl getting 22's.
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Lol that simply isn't true.
 
americanpierg said:
A little arrogant are we? From the tone of this post, I was thinking you had a 4.0 and a 23AA or something. 3.6 and 19 is no where near "surefire interview" status, nor is it good enough to feel that a rejection is a total blindside. You're an "average" applicant, and not all "average" applicants get an interview, especially if nothing else pops out about you. I don't think its an "out of state" issue at all, maybe your GPA is from a "lower level" school, or you lack any extracurriculars. Your DAT doesn't scream, "you must interview me!" either. Sounds like you're in denial about your application/credentials and just want to blame the chool. Just suck it up and enjoy your other interviews.

As for the 3.65 and 22/23 guy, HE should be shocked about not getting an interview lol.
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I never ment that I am the ideal canidate. Just figured I could atleast have been given consideration for Post-December interviews.

And if you look at predents, my scores are very similar to many of the people who are getting interviews so its not like I am wayy off on the scores scale and complaining.

Also check out their 2008 scores, AA 19, PAT 20, GPA 3.5 .... I know that this year is going to be more competitive but with averages like these it means that there were both people with marks lower then 19 and above 19 to give that average. Same with GPA. I doubt the scores could have increased that much to reject me this early in the cycle.

PS take a look at the ADEA book, averages of 19. something were more common then anything. The posters above me are also supporting this fact.
 
Sometimes it really bugs me how biased some people are, but I'm glad there are those who are more objective on these forums. The other day I was in the chat room and some guy said the average admittee has about a 3.6/21 which is absurd. In the same chat room when I said someone had killed the DAT, their first reaction was "are we talking 24s across the board"? But yes, 19s are very normal and many students with 19s do get accepted to dental schools, despite what predents.com says. Its grossly inaccurate to round off averages simply to fit ones view of what is competitive (e.g. my AA is 22 and 20s are so common nowadays, 19s just won't cut it).

I would say go by the latest stats found on the DS websites or the ADEA guide to get the best jist of what is competitive.
 
I agree with adizzle. Thats a major problem with SDN, sometimes people are so skewed because they go on predents and SDN and those stats become substituted for reality. Well in reality, I have friends who had 18 AA and 17 subsections on science sections and got accepted last cycle. If a school's average is 19.4 or whatever, that doesnt mean guaranteed interview if you are above that. Its a weird process and pretty much unpredictable.
 
I got the same letter and I was very sad too. Especially because I have only received rejections so far and not even 1 single interview.

stats sgpa 3.0, overall 3.4, DAT: AA 21, TS 21, PAT 20 🙁
 
I didn't apply to Michigan and do not know too much about it. It's a public school though right?? If so, that is unfortunate for in-state students that they have such a high OOS quota...

Someone fill me in😕
 
FutureDent020 said:
I didn't apply to Michigan and do not know too much about it. It's a public school though right?? If so, that is unfortunate for in-state students that they have such a high OOS quota...

Someone fill me in😕
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It's pretty weird. Detroit Mercy is a private institution, but it favors Michigan residents a lot more than UMich does.
 
got an interview with a 20 aa/21ts/20pat 3.9 gpa.. dunno why you got rejected 🙁 sorry man
 
americanpierg said:
A little arrogant are we? From the tone of this post, I was thinking you had a 4.0 and a 23AA or something. 3.6 and 19 is no where near "surefire interview" status, nor is it good enough to feel that a rejection is a total blindside. You're an "average" applicant, and not all "average" applicants get an interview, especially if nothing else pops out about you. I don't think its an "out of state" issue at all, maybe your GPA is from a "lower level" school, or you lack any extracurriculars. Your DAT doesn't scream, "you must interview me!" either. Sounds like you're in denial about your application/credentials and just want to blame the chool. Just suck it up and enjoy your other interviews.

As for the 3.65 and 22/23 guy, HE should be shocked about not getting an interview lol.
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Sounds little harsh but I agree.
And I'd say the number is not everything to dental school admission.
You might think 3.6gpa with 19AA is little above average and it is true nationally but that does not guarantee interview spot or anything.
Think about this, for the class of 2013, we had 2100 applicants & about 180 people(less than 10%) were invited for interview.
Your stat is definitely competative but I don't think 3.6gpa with 19AA is not near top 10% and if ADCOM strictly follows the numbers & you should get a rejection right away.
But I know few of my classmate got in with 18AA & others got rejected with 22 and 21AA.
Each school look for different aspects from different applicant that fits into the school & this is my conclusion.
Your application just has to fit into certain schools requirments...
Sorry about the rejection but good luck w/ other interviews.
 
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Michigan really takes the entire application into consideration- numbers aren't everything. The admissions advisor said that they want somebody that not only has great stats, but has also volunteered, showed leadership, displayed interest in the field, or anything else that would set them apart. They'd rather have students with decent stats and a ton of dental/volunteer/research experience than somebody with a perfect GPA/DAT score and nothing else. Your stats look good, so it could be something else in your application that was lacking.
 
FutureDent020 said:
That's really weird.. If I was a Michigan resident I would not be happy.
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Mercy also has a 6/7 year program that takes in around 10 students a year straight from that... so those stats are a little skewed.


To the OP... UofM loves research, so if you didn't have any research, that was probably a huge factor as well.
 
I just wanted to let people know that I called Michigan today. I found out that there was a mistake in my profile.

I retook my DAT in July and my scores were not downloaded. As a result, they considered my application with my old dat scores only. It's weird because I reported my July DAT scores on my application and for some reason they did not even bother to compare.

My application has been put back under review. I hope to hear from them soon. Its too bad that I was not given good consideration for any pre-December interviews. But my advice for everyone is to call if you are really unsure of why you got rejected from somewhere. The admissions office really does not care about you, so don't let them come between your dreams on their mistake. U of M is one of my top choices and I really hope to hear from them for an interview. I know my stats are not the greatest but I do think they are good enough to be given consideration for post-dec interview.
 
Motivated87 said:
My application has been put back under review.
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Great Work!!! You have no idea how many people I have spoken have had similar problems. Scores being wrong when they get to the interview, never received this or that, mistakes on this or that. Its really sad it happens and most of the time you never know. A lot of schools never really send a rejection until May, or you call and ask them if they have everything and they do but its not what they should have they have the wrong scores or GPA or whatever. Horrible that it happens.

Amazing you got it sorted out though, I wish you luck.
 
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