Relatively Inexpensive Safety Schools

[futuredent22]

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IMPORTANT SIDE NOTE: Never trust the info on Predents.com. Do your own research. They claim their info comes from the ADEA book, but a lot is false, and had me researching schools that were far more expensive than the site claimed. Example: Nova is predent is listed at $158,000 for 4 years. Howevere, check the school's site and you'll see tuition for 09-10 is over 45,000/year.

 

[Waitlisted2009]

You have so much to learn

Also to help a little. Buffalo

 

[EndangeredPasta]

Not trying to be harsh, but I really don't think you will have any "safety" schools. Your stats are really not that amazing and the whole process of getting accepted is somewhat luck as well as having the right combination of every aspect of the application.

I guess the only "safety" school would maybe be your state school if you have one.

P.S The data on Predents also may be a little outdated.

 

[futuredent22]

You have so much to learn

Also to help a little. Buffalo

Indeed, which is why I seek the help of people on here. As for going to Buffalo, I cannot think of a worse place to live, purely because I begin to get cold at around 50 degrees.

But I certainly appreciate the post.

 

[katpaws]

haha thanks, i needed a good laugh today!

PS - if there is "obviously a long list of schools that aren't overly hard to get accepted to", why don't you just pick the cheapest "safety school" from that list and apply there??

 

[doc toothache]

Since you didn't like the information, why not make your own list with the particular parameters you have set for yourself.

 

[Istr8nthem]

Indeed, which is why I seek the help of people on here. As for going to Buffalo, I cannot think of a worse place to live, purely because I begin to get cold at around 50 degrees.

But I certainly appreciate the post.

If you are cold at 50 then you may as well throw out all "safety schools" in Boston, NYC, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota..... I have even heard it gets chilly in Washington DC, Nebraska, Oklahoma, North Carolina, West Virginia, Illinois, Indiana. Then cross off schools like Nova, whose price-tag you don't like and you are left with, well, Texas schools, UF, UCLA, and very few others. Best of luck to you with your search. If you really want to be a dentist, you need to be prepared and willing to go anywhere that will give you the degree. Unfortunately, now-a-days you cannot be picky!

 

[somethinpositiv]

If you are cold at 50 then you may as well throw out all "safety schools" in Boston, NYC, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota..... I have even heard it gets chilly in Washington DC, Nebraska, Oklahoma, North Carolina, West Virginia, Illinois, Indiana. Then cross off schools like Nova, whose price-tag you don't like and you are left with, well, Texas schools, UF, UCLA, and very few others. Best of luck to you with your search. If you really want to be a dentist, you need to be prepared and willing to go anywhere that will give you the degree. Unfortunately, now-a-days you cannot be picky!

There is not a single relatively inexpensive safety school in any of the schools or cities you listed Istr8nthem. In fact, there is no such thing as a "relatively inexpensive safety school", because if they were inexpensive, they would be coveted and everyone would want to go there, and they wouldn't be safety schools any longer.

Someone mentioned Buffalo, which is the closest thing to an inexpensive safety school, but Buffalo is no cakewalk to get into. If you have a really high GPA (3.8+) as well as a really high DAT (21+), Penn can be an inexpensive safety school since you'll probably get a 100K Dean's Scholarship, without it Penn is one of the most expensive schools.

 

[Istr8nthem]

There is not a single relatively inexpensive safety school in any of the schools or cities you listed Istr8nthem. In fact, there is no such thing as a "relatively inexpensive safety school", because if they were inexpensive, they would be coveted and everyone would want to go there, and they wouldn't be safety schools any longer.

Someone mentioned Buffalo, which is the closest thing to an inexpensive safety school, but Buffalo is no cakewalk to get into. If you have a really high GPA (3.8+) as well as a really high DAT (21+), Penn can be an inexpensive safety school since you'll probably get a 100K Dean's Scholarship, without it Penn is one of the most expensive schools.

I guess it's true you can't read sarcasm through type.... my bad. My entire post was a sarcastic way of saying just what you said, hence the quotations around "safety schools"!!! The OP is looking for the impossible.... I do have to say that if you are in state, Texas schools and UCLA are not expensive by comparison.

 

[Stephie3]

there are no safety schools in dentistry, only crying from the stress of waiting to hear if you got in SOMEWHERE or not 😀

 

[ArmyDDS2013]

1) no safety schools
2) no cheap schools...even UCSF for california residents will run you 250-300k

 

[Cleric7x9]

Indeed, which is why I seek the help of people on here. As for going to Buffalo, I cannot think of a worse place to live, purely because I begin to get cold at around 50 degrees.

But I certainly appreciate the post.

in order to better answer your question, let me make sure i understand what you want.

you want to know a cheap dental school that is in a really nice area and is really easy to get into? i would imagine you want a school that is all of those things and also has great board pass rates, produces lots of specialists, and will gently cup your testicles during D1.

come on man, there is no such thing as a cheap, safety school.

 

[War Eagle]

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IMPORTANT SIDE NOTE: Never trust the info on Predents.com. Do your own research. They claim their info comes from the ADEA book, but a lot is false, and had me researching schools that were far more expensive than the site claimed. Example: Nova is predent is listed at $158,000 for 4 years. Howevere, check the school's site and you'll see tuition for 09-10 is over 45,000/year.

Before you start ripping on Predents.com, realize that the stats that PDizzle entered were from the ADEA book of a couple years ago. He is a busy dental student and doesn't have hours to re-enter everything every year. Tuition at all schools continues to increase and that probably accounts for the difference. Also, the data in the most recent ADEA book is from the class that is finishing D1, so some of that info has already changed from what schools report on their websites. But you are right to not trust everyone's GPA and DAT scores.

 

[enfuego]

You want a safety school (which doesn't exist) that is inexpensive (lol) and in a warm weather area? Good luck with that. The only school that might be inexpensive (relatively) is your state school, but even some state schools are really expensive for their residents.

Regarding the weather, you really limit yourself by only considering schools in very warm areas. You'll get over the cold. When I lived in the South, I honestly could not stand anything below 75 degrees. I moved up North a couple years ago, and now I can't stand anything above 65 and I definitely prefer winter over summer. If New England is too cold (understandable - winter gets to be a pain in the ass after a few months), at least consider schools in the mid-Atlantic.

 

[somethinpositiv]

IMPORTANT SIDE NOTE: Never trust the info on Predents.com. Do your own research. They claim their info comes from the ADEA book, but a lot is false

WTF man?? PDizzle has done more for us than you, I, or anyone else here ever will by making PreDents.com. It's got ridiculously valuable information if you're smart and know how to look for it. "Never trust" and "a lot is false" are strong words, and that's really not fair to PDizzle. Between PreDents.com info and Doc Toothache's charts, I knew exactly what schools to apply to, and my trust in this info paid off in garnering interviews and acceptances.

Some of the numbers are out-of-date, but some of the ADEA numbers are off too - the only way to find the exact totals are to either go to the dental schools website and add it up yourself, or learn it from the financial aid presentation at your interviews.

 

[webdog54]

WTF man?? PDizzle has done more for us than you, I, or anyone else here ever will by making PreDents.com. It's got ridiculously valuable information if you're smart and know how to look for it. "Never trust" and "a lot is false" are strong words, and that's really not fair to PDizzle. Between PreDents.com info and Doc Toothache's charts, I knew exactly what schools to apply to, and my trust in this info paid off in garnering interviews and acceptances.

Some of the numbers are out-of-date, but some of the ADEA numbers are off too - the only way to find the exact totals are to either go to the dental schools website and add it up yourself, or learn it from the financial aid presentation at your interviews.

I agree 110%. Their information and insight have definately helped me, and I have no doubt that hundreds of others could agree with us. Don't be hating on certain facts that aren't up-to-date to today, that's not their responsibility and the fact that they give us their time is respectable enough. They have laid out enough help for prospective dentists as it is, and it is our job to use their resources to our advantage.

 

[PDizzle]

Thanks to all that stood up for me and my website.

I do apologize that that the ADEA info is out of date. I plan on making it kinda of a wiki-like thing so people can update it when the new book comes out.

To be honest, I thought that part of the website wasn't the, "jist" of what I was going for. We all know what happened "last year" from the ADEA book that you should all have anyway. I wanted to capture what was happening during the actual cycle that all predents freak out about.

Your humble servant,....Dizz

 

[PSU SHC 414]

Not trying to be harsh, but I really don't think you will have any "safety" schools. Your stats are really not that amazing and the whole process of getting accepted is somewhat luck as well as having the right combination of every aspect of the application.

I guess the only "safety" school would maybe be your state school if you have one.

P.S The data on Predents also may be a little outdated.

Definitely agree with this post... numbers aren't everything in this game, so don't start getting cocky. I'm pretty sure there were a few people in this last cycle who had 25+ AAs, and didn't get accepted to every school they applied to.

Ditto War Eagles' post about PreDents... well said.

 

[achilles2]

Definitely agree with this post... numbers aren't everything in this game, so don't start getting cocky. I'm pretty sure there were a few people in this last cycle who had 25+ AAs, and didn't get accepted to every school they applied to.

Ditto War Eagles' post about PreDents... well said.

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I was one of those people lol

Nothing is promised in this game

 

[purplepanda]

Thanks to all that stood up for me and my website.

I do apologize that that the ADEA info is out of date. I plan on making it kinda of a wiki-like thing so people can update it when the new book comes out.

To be honest, I thought that part of the website wasn't the, "jist" of what I was going for. We all know what happened "last year" from the ADEA book that you should all have anyway. I wanted to capture what was happening during the actual cycle that all predents freak out about.

Your humble servant,....Dizz

The numbers might not be exact. But the ratios are the same. NYU is still incredibly expensive in comparison to UF. Although this is a well known fact among SDN'ers..it may not be to the average dental student. I know the first time I went on predents, it really painted a picture the whole competitiveness of dental school. It's an invaluable tool. Thank you.

 

[futuredent22]

I need to apologize/clarify on multiple levels, for my original post has caused quite the stir.

First, I want to apologize to the maker of Predent. I went on your site for the first time simply to look up tuition #'s, and was dismayed to find them a bit off. I didn't mean to call you a liar in my original post, I just wanted to warn people to do their own research and not make the mistake I did. As I continue to explore your site, I realize just how valuable it is in lots of ways other than providing tuition #'s, so thank you.

As for my "safety school" question, I've somehow managed to anger people. Not necessarily those who responded here, but I've received a couple quite angry private messages. I consider myself to be a strong applicant, not just in grades but also extracurriculars, and while I realize no school is guaranteed, I was simply looking for schools that were somewhat inexpensive and also ones I should feel confident applying to. I'm sorry for angering anyone, but I also don't understand the point to getting angry at someone on an internet forum.

Interestingly, its been Predents.com that has answered by question. I have been looking at the profiles of people with grades similar to myself to see where they chose to apply to give me some ideas.

 

[DrReo]

Thanks to all that stood up for me and my website.

I do apologize that that the ADEA info is out of date. I plan on making it kinda of a wiki-like thing so people can update it when the new book comes out.

To be honest, I thought that part of the website wasn't the, "jist" of what I was going for. We all know what happened "last year" from the ADEA book that you should all have anyway. I wanted to capture what was happening during the actual cycle that all predents freak out about.

Your humble servant,....Dizz

We always got your back, 'dizzle.

If there are safety schools that exists, it's due to their outrageous cost. Some will choose the more expensive school over a cheaper state school, but this more often than not, people choose the cheap institution.