Required Residencies by 2020

[VCU2011]

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Hey everyone. We just had a lecture in our pharmacy in the health system class about the fact that pharmacy organizations are pushing to make a mandatory residency requirement for all graduating pharm D's who are going into a setting that will have "direct contact with patients". I guess people are pushing for the year 2020 for this to be fully in effect. I was wondering what everyones thoughts are on this. We split the class into pros and cons and we had to argue respectively. Now that the argument is over i wanted to see what the rest of the world thought outside of the confines of my 130 person class.

 

[Epic]

I would rather see residency requirement for hospital and/or health systems pharmacist but not for the retail pharmacist. If your goal is to become a retail pharmacist, then residency requirement is unreasonable.

 

[genesis09]

We were talking about this in one my classes also. Last year, there were enough residency position for about 11% of last year's graduating class. It took many years for the PharmD only requirement to take hold. I don't think making a residency required will be helpful for all. Also, current laws do not allow pharmacy residents unlike medical to defer loan payments. Pharmacy residents used to be allowed to, but the law changed according to the UIC residency coordinator. They can only defer for financial reasons.

 

[Trancelucent1]

Pharmacy residents used to be allowed to, but the law changed according to the UIC residency coordinator. They can only defer for financial reasons.

This might depend on the type of loan you have. I have Grad Plus loans and according to the website if you're in a residency/internship program you can defer. I've also spoken with a few residents who are deferring right now. Private loans might be different though. I plan on deferring mine while doing a residency but will probably still make some payments.

 

[PharmaSynergy]

pharmacy organizations are pushing to make a mandatory residency requirement for all graduating pharm D's who are going into a setting that will have "direct contact with patients". I guess people are pushing for the year 2020 for this to be fully in effect. I was wondering what everyones thoughts are on this.

There was pretty good discussion on this thread too:

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=439710

🙂

 

[firefighter9015]

Another option for the loan issue, is choosing a repayment plan that us based on your current income (I think they call it Graduated Payment Plan). I know my private loans have that option, so if I can't defer that is probably what I will do.
I think that residencies should be required if you are looking to be a health-system pharmacist. I know there is community residencies out there, but am not to sure of what they consist of, I have always had my eyes on health system pharmacy

 

[rxlynn]

Hey everyone. We just had a lecture in our pharmacy in the health system class about the fact that pharmacy organizations are pushing to make a mandatory residency requirement for all graduating pharm D's who are going into a setting that will have "direct contact with patients". I guess people are pushing for the year 2020 for this to be fully in effect. I was wondering what everyones thoughts are on this. We split the class into pros and cons and we had to argue respectively. Now that the argument is over i wanted to see what the rest of the world thought outside of the confines of my 130 person class.

I am opposed to mandatory residency, for a variety of reasons that I think I posted in the other thread. However, if we are going in this direction I wish the organizations could at least use a little less condescending language. By "direct contact with patients" do we mean hospital positions only? (in which case, I would like them to explain to me how community pharmacy isn't direct patient contact) Do we mean all pharmacists except those who might be working in government/organizations/managed care where they really don't see any patients on a routine basis?

 

[njac]

Even though I want to do (at least one) residency I'm opposed to this. How many people are in our classes and are planning on going straight to Wags/WalMart/CVS/etc. I frankly don't want to compete with those people for residency slots that I truly want, and have known that I want, since 1st year.

 

[genesis09]

If required, I can imagine a bunch of so-called residency offered through the chain pharmacies. Residencies for some is a good idea, but for all, I'm not sold.
That issue with direct patient care has become an issue with the newest accreditation requirements. They, ACPE, require 300 IPPE hours with direct patient care, and previously, the requirement was something like 50. My school is up for reaccreditation this year, and they've told us that new requirement is such a headache. They've had to redo a lot of the curriculum to make it. They had to take away an elective rotation to make it.

 

[janeno]

Has anyone heard what happened to this resolution? Someone told me that it did not pass. Does anyone have resources on that?