Research during the school year?

This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you.

Quester

Full Member
15+ Year Member
Joined
Feb 1, 2009
Messages
620
Reaction score
1
Anyone thinking of doing some research during the school year?

For those of you who have done research during the year, was it difficult to juggle school work and other EC's with it?

How early should one ask profs for research opportunities during the year? Is early August too early?

I would like to do research while getting paid, but really, what are the chances. Are there any tips on scoring paid research positions? Or should I just be thankful if any profs are willing to take me in?
 
It's not too bad working in a lab during the year...a lot of the stuff you do requires a lot of downtime so you can always do some studying while you wait for something to finish. Just manage your time well and it's very doable, even with a part time job. It's never too early to ask your profs about research openings. They'll usually let you know when to expect openings but sometimes it can be hard to tell. Show some interest in the lab work and they'll be more likely to contact you when an opening comes up.
 
I tried doing research during the year but didn't have enough time to dedicate to it. Obviously many people are capable of juggling everything, but after spending a summer doing research full-time, going into the lab a couple of days each week seemed like a waste of time by comparison.
 
Look for a lab that will:
1) Publish things with your name on it/encourage you to do presentations.
2) Allow you to do more than wash glassware.
3) Pay you.
 
Honestly, it depends all on you :]

I'm going to be a junior come fall and I started research 2nd semester my freshman year. I've worked in another lab back home since high school, but that was a bit more flexible.

It would be a wise idea to go ahead and start looking at professors who have a field that you are interested in researching and contact them. It might even be possible to set up an interview with them to have them show you around the lab, meet the other students, and discuss what both of your goals are for doing research. You don't want someone who is too lax, but you don't want someone who wants to have you in their lab just to shove publications down your throat (I've had a personal experience with that at a summer internship - no bueno). Tenure could also be weighty factor because non-tenured professors tend to push publications for grant money apart from the amount that the university gives them. You can ask whether you'll be working more closely associated with them, their grad students, or a 50/50 split.

I interviewed about ~5 professors at my institution. You get a feel for the professor and the other students you work with should give you a level of comfortability. Both of my labs (at school and home) have hard working students, but we know how to have fun too. You don't want all work and no play! One lab I visited, I loved the professor and her topic, but her grad students weren't welcoming, and none of them looked particularly happy to be there.

If you're really looking to do research to get the experience and not just make some extra cash, you will have to devote some time to your lab.
It is essentially a job. Depending on your lab, the hours you go in will be different too.


The professor I work with at my school (professor 1)wants me a minimum of 10 hours per week, at least 3 days a week, but I know for him that means at least 15 hours a week. I work with proteins. Sometimes I had to get up early to go induce proteins, and come back during lunch or after class to harvest them and do whatever. I went in some weekends too.I'm a double major, and his opinion is outside of class, I should be in the lab and that nothing but biochemistry matters lol. This professor also is not tenured, so he pushes publications and though I like the challenge, sometimes I feel he can push a bit too much.

The other professor (professor 2) I work with here at home is much more laid back, he's NSF sponsored, and quite flexible. If you need to take a day off, he's not at all bothered by it, but our lab WORKS. We're there all day, and I love it. For the summer, I'm there ~25 hours a week and I'm taking organic+lab this summer, so work ~25 hours a week + 17 hours of class. this is my computational chem lab. I go in, and at 5, we're done and we just finish our programs up the next day. He's open to being a more well rounded person with clubs and sports - not just all science. It all depends!

You do learn a lot from your lab. I love both professors dearly, but you'll have to learn to balance ECs, classes, lab, and you time. Professors are generally accommodating to class schedules and all else. They (and you) have to remember you're a student too! Freshman year, I taught elementary school strings, did research, took 17 credits, did orchestra etc etc. Balance is the key. If something is too much, you have to let it go or you'll suffer burnout. I did that. I kept what was most important/valuble to me, and let the others go. Sophomore year research was put on the back burner because I was taking an inordinate amount of credits and added in being an RA, but I'm :xf: returning in the fall which may mean a class or two less. We'll see.

Oh! Also ask IF they pay their students. My freshman year I got paid by a campus research fellowship program, not my professor. Professor #1 has just recently stopped paying his students and will only offer students undergrad credit.

All the best!
 
Wow, thanks for the responses.

cellochic, I'm surprised that you didn't burn out after freshmen year!

I've always had trouble with time management that's why I'm planning to do as much as I can so that there's not too much free time to waste.

I would love to get paid to do some research, but I'm not sure if it sounds okay if I ask if they're gonna pay in my first email.

Let's say I ask in the initial email if they're looking for any paid research assistants or volunteers, and they respond that they're only looking for volunteers. Would you guys still take the bite, or go look for other profs who would pay you?
 
i hate bench research, clinical research FTW-more time to do the research on "your time"
 
i hate bench research, clinical research FTW-more time to do the research on "your time"

This is a terrible question to ask, but what exactly is the difference between bench and clinical research?

In bench research, do you use pipette, etc like in wet lab? But in clinical research, you're sorta testing product and analyzing it?
 
This is a terrible question to ask, but what exactly is the difference between bench and clinical research?

In bench research, do you use pipette, etc like in wet lab? But in clinical research, you're sorta testing product and analyzing it?

bench-you are in lab

clinical-analysis of data (NOT done in lab but in library, etc.) for example one of my projects is analyzing outcomes of surgical clipping vs. surgical coiling of aneurysms in the brain...LOTS of lit. research
 
Look for a lab that will:
1) Publish things with your name on it/encourage you to do presentations.
2) Allow you to do more than wash glassware.
3) Pay you.
NO. Good god, NO. I agree with the latter, but the former shouldn't be your primary agenda for doing research.
 
@Quester - Let's just say for the record, I'm insane haha. My dad continually tells me I'm NOT superwoman, but I'm the type of person to want to take on everything. That's a good and bad quality 🙄 I did end up suffering burnout fall of sophomore year though which is why I took the year off from research. I went straight from freshmen year to a 2.5 month research internship with the same professor working about 50+ hours a week, then having less than a week to recuperate before RA training and school starting and taking more than plenty credits (23 to be exact - don't do it). I got some common sense though and decided to drop a few classes and got to 16 hours. Still pulled off a 3.7 for the semester 🙂

I had time management down to the minute freshman year. Personally, I don't find that healthy or sane because you can't have every minute of your life planned out! it's stressful when things don't go according to plan. Don't worry - I took a chill pill. Ambitiousness is cool, but stressing less is better Makes life much easier!

I guess long story short, lab will make you plan your time a little. Just make sure you have enough room for it and don't slack off too much in your classes or take on too much!
 
Top