Research in Private Practice ?

[NewYorkDoctors]

i know the title is somewhat of a misnomer or an oxymoron at worst .

Any experience out there for private practice docs , perhaps a director of a practice who is already making top dollar , who yearns to publish and write (admittedly smaller scale stuff like case series or review articles) and doesn’t want the administrative hassles of a full time faculty job ?

How would IRBs work ?

Any input would be appreciated

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[nycheartdoc]

i know the title is somewhat of a misnomer or an oxymoron at worst .

Any experience out there for private practice docs , perhaps a director of a practice who is already making top dollar , who yearns to publish and write (admittedly smaller scale stuff like case series or review articles) and doesn’t want the administrative hassles of a full time faculty job ?

How would IRBs work ?

Any input would be appreciated

There are private IRB that you can hire. But they are costly. It would be cheaper to partner with someone who is in academia and use the IRB within the institution.

But truthfully, there are so many papers being published nowadays: what you publish will likely make minimal impact to anyone except your own ego. Instead of researching for papers, researching to create a startup is more rewarding intellectually and financially.

If you publish a review article in, novelty of your article wears off after 2 weeks. Great, you found that "XYZ factors are positively correlate with disease A": nobody cares because it does not really matter.

Instead of defending your novel ideas in front of a bunch of academic reviewers who spend more time writing grants than deal with real life issues, package your ideas and try to make it impactful in the marketplace instead. Reagents are widely available. For example, NYU-Langone rents out BioLab space where you can set up your biotech project. You can do your own gene knockout project quickly, but of course you are not supposed to inject those plasmid into yourself like this guy did (). If your idea is worthwhile, your startup can actually make you money. This is far more pleasing than to justify to academic reviewers who are mostly padding each other on the back.

As to the funding: assuming you are a successful doctor, you can easily outspend the poor PhDs who are having trouble with shrinking NIH grants. Make sure you invest your earning wisely (e.g. rental properties) that yield income that can fund your research. The initial loss from your startup is tax-deductible. Put your college-bound children in your startup so that they can claim credit for the works: it will significantly boost their chance for HYPSM entrance.

 

[beastaran1]

There are private IRB that you can hire. But they are costly. It would be cheaper to partner with someone who is in academia and use the IRB within the institution.

But truthfully, there are so many papers being published nowadays: what you publish will likely make minimal impact to anyone except your own ego. Instead of researching for papers, researching to create a startup is more rewarding intellectually and financially.

If you publish a review article in, novelty of your article wears off after 2 weeks. Great, you found that "XYZ factors are positively correlate with disease A": nobody cares because it does not really matter.

Instead of defending your novel ideas in front of a bunch of academic reviewers who spend more time writing grants than deal with real life issues, package your ideas and try to make it impactful in the marketplace instead. Reagents are widely available. For example, NYU-Langone rents out BioLab space where you can set up your biotech project. You can do your own gene knockout project quickly, but of course you are not supposed to inject those plasmid into yourself like this guy did (). If your idea is worthwhile, your startup can actually make you money. This is far more pleasing than to justify to academic reviewers who are mostly padding each other on the back.

As to the funding: assuming you are a successful doctor, you can easily outspend the poor PhDs who are having trouble with shrinking NIH grants. Make sure you invest your earning wisely (e.g. rental properties) that yield income that can fund your research. The initial loss from your startup is tax-deductible. Put your college-bound children in your startup so that they can claim credit for the works: it will significantly boost their chance for HYPSM entrance.

lurking MS1 but that is such a well thoughout plan lmao

 

[Instatewaiter]

i know the title is somewhat of a misnomer or an oxymoron at worst .

Any experience out there for private practice docs , perhaps a director of a practice who is already making top dollar , who yearns to publish and write (admittedly smaller scale stuff like case series or review articles) and doesn’t want the administrative hassles of a full time faculty job ?

How would IRBs work ?

Any input would be appreciated

I'm part of a non-academic, hospital owned practice that does a reasonable amount of clinical trials.

One of our docs has a paper about to be published in JACC.those practices are out there but are usually exceptionally selective in who they hire and where they come from.

 

[Elixir6]

There are private IRB that you can hire. But they are costly. It would be cheaper to partner with someone who is in academia and use the IRB within the institution.

But truthfully, there are so many papers being published nowadays: what you publish will likely make minimal impact to anyone except your own ego. Instead of researching for papers, researching to create a startup is more rewarding intellectually and financially.

If you publish a review article in, novelty of your article wears off after 2 weeks. Great, you found that "XYZ factors are positively correlate with disease A": nobody cares because it does not really matter.

Instead of defending your novel ideas in front of a bunch of academic reviewers who spend more time writing grants than deal with real life issues, package your ideas and try to make it impactful in the marketplace instead. Reagents are widely available. For example, NYU-Langone rents out BioLab space where you can set up your biotech project. You can do your own gene knockout project quickly, but of course you are not supposed to inject those plasmid into yourself like this guy did (). If your idea is worthwhile, your startup can actually make you money. This is far more pleasing than to justify to academic reviewers who are mostly padding each other on the back.

As to the funding: assuming you are a successful doctor, you can easily outspend the poor PhDs who are having trouble with shrinking NIH grants. Make sure you invest your earning wisely (e.g. rental properties) that yield income that can fund your research. The initial loss from your startup is tax-deductible. Put your college-bound children in your startup so that they can claim credit for the works: it will significantly boost their chance for HYPSM entrance.

Ha ha. This is an absolute joke. Sorry to come off as a real jerk, but that is absolute niavete. What could you possibly get done in a lab like that? Because you have an MD and can order a nurse to wipe someone's a$$ or hang Zosyn, doesn't mean you have an idea what you are talking about with regards to research it biotech.

I'm glad though that you recognize a case series is probably just a largely useless endeavor for a faculty member, but your understanding of real academic research is poor (I say real because it's true that many academic physicians just diddle in minor research). What those people do is hard and is "real life" when it comes to research.

I agree though if you were actually an expert in a specific area (which the vast majority of private practice folks are not), you could be an advisor to a biotech/device company. If you want to found one like the poster suggests it's not going to be possible like s/he suggests by using your income to get ahead of PhDs. You'll need a team and real investors. No one is going to hand over 20 mil start up capital to a physician pippetting in the rented space at NYU with no research track record or business record. What knockouts the poster is even referring to is beyond me.

The poster before me has an idea that actually makes sense, which is to be a partner site for a clinical trial which could be intellectually stimulating depending on your level of involvement.

 

[nycheartdoc]

Ha ha. This is an absolute joke. Sorry to come off as a real jerk, but that is absolute niavete. What could you possibly get done in a lab like that? Because you have an MD and can order a nurse to wipe someone's a$$ or hang Zosyn, doesn't mean you have an idea what you are talking about with regards to research it biotech.

I have published research papers in both high impact basic and clinical journals as first authors, have you?

 

[Elixir6]

I have published research papers in both high impact basic and clinical journals as first authors, have you?

Yes. Many