Research Required in Pediatrics?

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I was wondering if research was expected and/or required for medical students when they are applying for residencies? I am starting medical school this fall and I am very interested in pediatrics, but I really have no interest thus far in doing research. I was asked about not having any research background in several of my medical school interviews, and I even think it might have gotten me a few waitlists/rejections from some of the top schools I interviewed at. However, I still got into my top choice school in my home town of Buffalo, and several others. So my question is, will the same thing happen when I interview for a residency if I don't get some research under my belt? I'm not really one to do things just so they'll look good on my resume, but I should I anyways? Thanks for your advice. 🙂

P.S. I'd also like to do my peds. residency in my hometown as well, at Womens and Children's Hospital of Buffalo hopefully (if this makes any difference)
 
I was wondering if research was expected and/or required for medical students when they are applying for residencies? I am starting medical school this fall and I am very interested in pediatrics, but I really have no interest thus far in doing research. I was asked about not having any research background in several of my medical school interviews, and I even think it might have gotten me a few waitlists/rejections from some of the top schools I interviewed at. However, I still got into my top choice school in my home town of Buffalo, and several others. So my question is, will the same thing happen when I interview for a residency if I don't get some research under my belt? I'm not really one to do things just so they'll look good on my resume, but I should I anyways? Thanks for your advice. 🙂

P.S. I'd also like to do my peds. residency in my hometown as well, at Womens and Children's Hospital of Buffalo hopefully (if this makes any difference)

Research is certainly not required for pediatrics (or any specialty for that matter). What it does is enhance your application package. It's nice to have more "enhancements", especially for more competitive residencies. Publications are good, but it can be hard to get something done while in med school and there's a fair amount of luck involved. It's good that you're thinking about it though. You never know if you will change your specialty choice -- I was hard core ortho until I switched in 4th year (because I wanted to, not because I had to). People asked me about my research when I interviewed, even though it was in ortho and we didn't publish anything.

One last thing, if you do stick to peds, you should consider Rochester's program, it's only 50 miles away and, in my opinion, much better.

Ed
 
Research is certainly not required for pediatrics (or any specialty for that matter). What it does is enhance your application package. It's nice to have more "enhancements", especially for more competitive residencies. Publications are good, but it can be hard to get something done while in med school and there's a fair amount of luck involved. It's good that you're thinking about it though. You never know if you will change your specialty choice -- I was hard core ortho until I switched in 4th year (because I wanted to, not because I had to). People asked me about my research when I interviewed, even though it was in ortho and we didn't publish anything.

One last thing, if you do stick to peds, you should consider Rochester's program, it's only 50 miles away and, in my opinion, much better.

Ed


My advisor in medical school told me to try and get as many "feathers in your cap" as possible.

What he meant by that is that there are a ton of things that residencies like...grades, aoa, extra-curricular activities, leadership activities, research, letters of recommendation, dean's letter, volunteer work, board scores, interview. the more of these you have or are good at, the better you will do.

so, if your grades and board scores suck, you werent involved in any activities, and you have average letters of rec, then research becomes much more impressive. on the other hand, great board scores and grades with great letters of rec, lots of volunteer work, and aoa status, then research is no longer as impressive since you already have so many great things on your cv.

so to remain competitive, without doing any research, just make up with it by pursuing other interests. one caveat, if you end up wanting to do residency at a top highly research-driven peds program (i.e, boston or chop) then research becomes very important regardless of how good you are. but for most residency programs, research is just one more thing in a long list of things they look for in candidates.

and keep in mind, research is a requirement for almost every fellowship program and many peds residencies incorporate a residency research project into the curriculum. so early exposure in medical school may be beneficial. and research in pediatrics (or any field) isn't only basic science research on a bench in a lab. there is public health research, ethics, clinical research, and other things that are more tangible and you may enjoy. so keep an open mind, as you may come across an interesting question that you want answered, opening your eyes to an interesting research project that may not be as tedious and time consuming as you imagine. if you change your mind, always talk to the peds attendings at your school, as they are always looking for eager med students to help out with their projects.
 
I was wondering if research was expected and/or required for medical students when they are applying for residencies? I am starting medical school this fall and I am very interested in pediatrics, but I really have no interest thus far in doing research. I was asked about not having any research background in several of my medical school interviews, and I even think it might have gotten me a few waitlists/rejections from some of the top schools I interviewed at. However, I still got into my top choice school in my home town of Buffalo, and several others. So my question is, will the same thing happen when I interview for a residency if I don't get some research under my belt? I'm not really one to do things just so they'll look good on my resume, but I should I anyways? Thanks for your advice. 🙂

I've never done a single minute of research in my life so far. I have no interest in it, and have thus not pursued it. I've done fine, got into medical school, #1 residency choice. It matters what your specific goals are, but just know that a peds residency can be obtained without any research. 🙂
 
research in pediatrics (or any field) isn't only basic science research on a bench in a lab. there is public health research, ethics, clinical research, and other things that are more tangible and you may enjoy. so keep an open mind, as you may come across an interesting question that you want answered, opening your eyes to an interesting research project that may not be as tedious and time consuming as you imagine.

I want to add a strong emphasis to this point. Sometimes medical students, fresh from remembering time spent cleaning beakers in a lab in college to enhance their med school application, want to stay clear of any research and come to treat the word as a real negative.

But, in pediatrics especially, there is a lot of research that can answer the real questions you have. Ever wonder how often an obese kid who gets a full endocrine work-up actually has an endocrine disorder? Ask an endocrinologist if you can review the last 100 out-patient visits they've had of new patients with the referral diagnosis of "obesity" and find out! Etc, etc. The key is to think about the questions that matter to you OR to learn about the questions that are being asked by faculty at your center and see if they interest you.

Research is about providing evidence, often lacking in pediatrics, for the things we do for children. Mostly you don't have to do it to get where you are going as a pediatrician, but consider being open to trying it. Even if what you mostly learn is how to REVIEW/READ the current literature (statistical flaws, etc), it might be worth it.
 
I want to add a strong emphasis to this point. Sometimes medical students, fresh from remembering time spent cleaning beakers in a lab in college to enhance their med school application, want to stay clear of any research and come to treat the word as a real negative.

But, in pediatrics especially, there is a lot of research that can answer the real questions you have. Ever wonder how often an obese kid who gets a full endocrine work-up actually has an endocrine disorder? Ask an endocrinologist if you can review the last 100 out-patient visits they've had of new patients with the referral diagnosis of "obesity" and find out! Etc, etc. The key is to think about the questions that matter to you OR to learn about the questions that are being asked by faculty at your center and see if they interest you.

Research is about providing evidence, often lacking in pediatrics, for the things we do for children. Mostly you don't have to do it to get where you are going as a pediatrician, but consider being open to trying it. Even if what you mostly learn is how to REVIEW/READ the current literature (statistical flaws, etc), it might be worth it.

Research does take on a whole new meaning after doing clinical work as you can see how the research can be used. Anyone who has done a powerpoint has a good probablity of having looked up a recent article review or original paper on the topic and sees how articles about what is current or postulated is really where I think a lot of attendings get their knowledge, so it appears more and more relveant. I think why attendings like people who do research is because attendings are major "consumers" of research papers in terms of treating their patients and what they hear about at conferences. Even an attending who has been practicing for 35 years at a community hospital and you tell him/her that you second-authored a paper on a new treatment strategy for childhood diabetes in say Pediatrics, will be impressed as you are a "producer" of new knowledge, and you learn how to evaluate clinical problems in a new light when you have done research. I have seen a resident who never did research before, went to the NIH to work on a rare disease, and said that it was a totally enjoyable experience and opened his eyes to research and helped him developed analytical skills. So, I think if you do research at a name brand institution, i.e. Harvard, NIH, or probably any major Children's Hospital you will have a good time as you will be working with pediatric researchers that are really interested in what they are working on, . . . less at other smaller places where they are just fretting over grants and don't get students involved.
 
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