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[Pharma1811]

resolved, thank you

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[Mr.Smile12]

Please use the template: What Are My Chances? WAMC Medical
More description on clinical hours and activities. You mention you just graduated with a PharmD, so are most of those clinical experience hours from your PharmD education? And what is your grad GPA?

 

[LeaveNoTrace]

Any upward trend? You look fine for DO and some MD, although would greatly benefit from a postbacc. If you really want to go double or nothing, do an SMP, but you could be OK with a DIY postbacc as well.

 

[LeaveNoTrace]

Generally, 30+ credits are recommended. I'm not sure 20 would be enough to show that you're a stronger student. Did you work full time as an undergrad? If you did, include that; with that and 30 credits of 3.7+ in a DIY postbacc, you stand a chance at MD schools. If you are lucky you might get cut a bit of slack on your GPAs that way.

 

[LeaveNoTrace]

As you are now, you have a chance at MD schools. Your MCAT does somewhat compensate for your GPA but your GPA is fairly low, there's only so far that compensation can go. Your chances would be much better with the postbacc.

 

[LeaveNoTrace]

Hmm. That approach would not be as good as having all 30 done and waiting a year, but it is definitely better than nothing. You might update schools during the cycle. Your chances are best now at low-tier and state MD schools. Maybe someone like @Goro could offer better advice here.

 

[Mr.Smile12]

So here's the question: when you say you are a recent PharmD grad, how recent? The big question is going to be why switch from pharmacy to medicine? Why are you willing to go into more educational debt to become a physician, knowing the financial payoff being a physician isn't better than being a pharmacist?

 

[Mr.Smile12]

Wanted to PM you regarding this as to preserve some minor info within the context of anonymity. Is there any way to do so and is that alright? Can't find any buttons...

You can use the Confidential Consult section.

 

[Mr.Smile12]

Tried it and couldn't figure my way around it.. Looks like I need to resubmit my whole thread I think, so I just let it go.

Regarding your question, I graduated within this past year, so rather recent.

Regarding why med school, to keep it short and concise: I like having full patient ownership and making executive decisions. I do not like being part of an auxiliary support staff. It is what I have realized upon my many hours of working within the healthcare team and getting to understand everyones roles. That's not to say they aren't worth anything, it's just not part of who I am and what I want. Regarding the additional economic debt, I thankfully do not have any further loans to pay off as I paid all of my grad school loans off as I was working through school on top of what I had saved up prior to school starting. It helped that I went to an in state school that was somewhat cheap tuition (110k).

Honestly If I can even GET to the point of an admissions committee questioning me about the switch, I'll be over the moon as I have no doubts about my interview capabilities. My concern of course, is grades..

We'll have to figure that out re: CC.

That's at least one reason why your graduate GPA is important. In all likelihood it's not a 3.8 but I don't know because pharmacy school is hard. Regardless that transcript needs to be verified so screeners can see you completed pharmacy school.

So that brings me to another question: have you talked to medical schools about your situation? You need to know how willing they have been to someone of similar background and how that student (those students) navigated through the process. It's not impossible, but I've fielded similar questions during file deliberations from faculty, and I'm just giving you what is a common reaction.

 

[Mr.Smile12]

No I have not. I have 2 in state schools that are essentially my dream schools but do not know how to even go forth about talking to them about this. All I have is admissions phone numbers/emails from them and It feels entirely impersonal to just cold call/email them regarding this nor am I even sure that its a normal thing to do.

What would you suggest? Call them and explain my situation? (to the extent that I explained n my original post?) Email? Thank you!

Post in CC under Ask Your Question: https://forums.studentdoctor.net/forums/ask-your-question-here.1175/

I think you can email the admissions offices (no one's answering phones), and it's normal. My office fielded inquiries all the time, and I instructed my secretaries to tell anyone making phone inquiries to just email.

 

[Goro]

Thanks for the answer! And not much of an upward trend unfortunately. How many credits of a DIY post bacc? I have looked into this and have the opportunity to take about 20 credits worth of 4000 level classes (immuno, histology, advanced pathophys) but unsure if it's enough. If this is something highly recommended, I can fit it into this upcoming cycle as the classes are all spring/summer and end late august

Read my post on reinvention for premeds. You're fine right now for DO, but if you're boning for the MD, you need to do a DIY postbac or SMP.

 

[Faha]

The GPA-MCAT grid shows you have a greater than 50% chance for a MD acceptance. I suggest these schools:
Your state public schools
Wayne State
Western Michigan
Oakland Beaumont
Medical College Wisconsin
Rosalind Franklin
Loyola
Creighton
TCU-UNT
NOVA MD
USF Morsani
Wake Forest
Eastern Virginia
Virginia Commonwealth
George Washington
Georgetown
Drexel
Temple
Jefferson
Penn State
Seton Hall
Hofstra
Einstein
New York Medical College
Albany
Vermont
Quinnipiac
Apply in June and submit all your secondaries by July.

 

[Goro]

Thanks for the response. Am I out of luck for any tier MD at this point? In states as well? Can I get your rationale for the post bac? Do I objectively not have any aspects of my application that are convincing enough for adcoms?

I'm less sanguine that my wise colleague. Your best best is with your state MD school(s).