RN <-----> Paramedic

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MexicanDr

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Can an RN challenge the paramedic exam? I am talking in the state of California. How about any other state? Currently NREMT-B and 3rd Semester RN [One to go]. Long term goal? Possibly PA, unless something really pushes my desires and pursue med school; but love EMS.
 
California uses nurses heavily on the CCT units, that might be a better option for you. I know a few years ago AMR would fly nurses out for weeks or months, due to shortages.

The accreditation process has cleaned up the whole medic school operation, but I am sure in California you can still find a medic-mill or private school that with enough money will sign you off or come to some agreement. As far as "officially", you should contact the state office. In some states you must complete the internship and attend an accredited course, but I am not sure about California.

While nationally and in California nursing school might be "better" or more extensive then Paramedic school, there are plenty of skills and decision making that is specific to EMS training that I am not sure nursing school will cover initially (I may be wrong).
 
Nurses can't challenge the paramedic exam in my state but I was the nurse advisor that cotaught a paramedic class in the 90's. It helped that I had been a paramedic before nurse.

Why not be a flight nurse? I think that would be awesome but I get motion sickness so not so sure I could do that.
 
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Nurses can't challenge the paramedic exam in my state but I was the nurse advisor that cotaught a paramedic class in the 90's. It helped that I had been a paramedic before nurse.

Why not be a flight nurse? I think that would be awesome but I get motion sickness so not so sure I could do that.

This would need to be verified, but I met a flight nurse in the bay area who said it was not a sustainable career. His wife was a medic and brought in the money, pay is horrendous for the cost of living in Cali.

Something to think about.
 
In Ohio an RN can not challenge the paramedic exam (Ohio uses National Registry). Ohio does permit an RN who is an EMT-B to take a RN to paramedic bridge course, typically 3 months vs the 12 for full medic school, and then take National Registry.

A caveat from experience as a medic and paramedic instructor: nursing may or may not prepare a person well for being a paramedic. Nursing is very broad and if a person's experience isn't in something like emergency medicine, it won't prepare them well for being a medic. Part of it is specific medical knowledge, like cardiology and pulmonology. A much bigger part of it is the mindset difference. Most nurses, esp. in hospitals, operate in a very controlled, process driven environment. They have to focus very hard on providing care according to the facility's processes. Pre-hospital care is all about adapting to uncontrolled settings and situations and making decisions driven mostly by patient assessment and little history. The EMS crew is "it" and within the confines of their scope of practice have to be pretty creative. The RN's I've taught often take a fair while to adapt to this different approach. Medics usually take a fair while to adapt to hospital work, because their mindset is more focused on just getting the task done. It's a question of adaptation to different environments.
 
From what I understand (though I've never asked any of the CCT RNs directly about salary), "in-hospital" RNs do earn more than CCT RNs, but CCT RNs earn more than paramedics. Here are some links to some of the companies that I am most familiar with:

CALSTAR:
https://home.eease.adp.com/recruit2/?id=1096571&t=1

REACH:
http://mediplane.com/careers/clinical.html

AMR:
https://performancemanager4.successfactors.com/career?career%5fns=job%5flisting&company=EMSC&navBarLevel=JOB%5fSEARCH&rcm%5fsite%5flocale=en%5fUS&career_job_req_id=1285&selected_lang=en_US&_s.crb=3xOMZuQOvhORI%2f3CPYdJor9OHbc%3d


AMR:
https://performancemanager4.success...ang=en_US&_s.crb=3xOMZuQOvhORI/3CPYdJor9OHbc=

Salary estimations from internet googling- I cannot verify accuracy:

http://swz.salary.com/SalaryWizard/Paramedic-Salary-Details-Oakland-CA.aspx

http://swz.salary.com/SalaryWizard/Staff-Nurse-RN-Flight-Transport-Salary-Details-Oakland-CA.aspx

So yeah, while I don't know the details about switching from an RN to a paramedic- I don't know anyone that has done it, but I do know some who have gone the other way around as I understand it the pay is better and career opportunities are better.

As an RN you can work just as easily in the field as in acute care if that is your preference- but you'll likely need a few years of ED and/or critical care (possibly including pediatrics) experience. And of course being a newb in either the field or hospital will involve a learning curve and adaptation, and you may find that you're a better fit for one setting than the other.

And the challenge these days for new (nursing) grads in the bay area is landing their first job in any position, let alone an "exciting" one such as CC or ED.

Good luck with your future endeavors- finding your best fit for making a positive difference in peoples' health and lives. 🙂
 
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I know three RNs that have done it (in AZ, as an RN, you can take EMT and medic refresher programs, then take the (national registry) exams, then apply for AZ state cert, subsequent to passing NR)

Two of these nurses work primarily as medics (municipal firefighter), and do nursing on the side (ED)

The other is a flight RN/medic, and has (kind of) a dual role in the air.