Rotation Hours

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[Deferoxamine]

is there a legal limit to how many we can work in a week?

168.

 

[Tired Pigeon]

Depends on the rotation. My psych rotation was less than 40 hr/wk. My SICU rotation was >100 hr/wk.

Residency work hours limitations do not apply to medical students (as was pointed out to us many times during our training), but some institutions try to observe the 80 hour work week anyway.

Best bet is to ask the people in the class above you what their experience has been on the various rotations.

 

[Depakote]

Depends on the rotation. My psych rotation was less than 40 hr/wk. My SICU rotation was >100 hr/wk.

Residency work hours limitations do not apply to medical students (as was pointed out to us many times during our training), but some institutions try to observe the 80 hour work week anyway.

Best bet is to ask the people in the class above you what their experience has been on the various rotations.

It varies. The above is a good example.

My institution holds students to the resident work hour restrictions. I averaged in the 70s during my general surgery rotations. On some of my rural ambulatory rotations, I put in under 40 hrs.

But the limit is institutional, if you're averaging over 80, there isn't a law that makes it a work hour violation as there is with residents.

 

[MJB]

I really have to wonder what good it does to have a 3rd year student hanging around the hospital for so many hours a week. It's really kinda dumb.

 

[basupran]

Comparing MS3 schedules from 2 different locations, it seems that it can vary quite a bit. In general, surgical/obgyn rotations have longer hours whereas psych/fp have shorter hours.

Psych: location 1 40 hrs/wk, location 2<<40 hrs/wk
IM: Location 1 50 hrs/wk, location 2 60 hrs/wk
Gen Surg: Location 1 100 hrs/wk Location 2 >>100 hrs/wk
Peds: Location 1 40 hrs/wk Location 2 50 hrs/wk
OBGYN: Location 1 >>100 hrs/wk Location 2 60 hrs/wk

In the end, it really depends on how much call you are required to take and how well you want to do in the rotation. Many of the university programs have longer hours than community programs, though again this can vary.

Hope this helps.

 

[eforest]

My school limits student work hours to 80 a week but Ob-Gyn and surgery do not adhere to this rule. There are no actual laws limiting medical student hours so rotations have little incentive to keep hours low. And yes, it is kind of dumb. People say we're there to "learn" but after 30 hours on call, I'm not even oriented to name.

 

[Depakote]

I was looking at different residency sites on FREIDA over the weekend...

Me: Hmm, X program says only 60 hrs/week on average. Y program says their average is 72.
Aunt: Ohh, you should definitely try for program Y. I bet you'll get a lot more experience there.
Me: 🙄

 

[Neuronix]

I was looking at different residency sites on FREIDA over the weekend...

Me: Hmm, X program says only 60 hrs/week on average. Y program says their average is 72.
Aunt: Ohh, you should definitely try for program Y. I bet you'll get a lot more experience there.
Me: 🙄

Neuronix: FREIDA is about as accurate about work hours as a random number generator.

Semantics: There is no 80 hour work week law except in the state of New York. However, it's a residency accreditation violation to go over 80 hours. That only applies to residents, not medical students.

 

[Depakote]

Neuronix: FREIDA is about as accurate about work hours as a random number generator.

Semantics: There is no 80 hour work week law except in the state of New York. However, it's a residency accreditation violation to go over 80 hours. That only applies to residents, not medical students.

Well I figured those numbers had to be self-reported, I guess I was just hoping that there'd be some linear relationship between the reported and actual work-hours...

 

[smq123]

Well I figured those numbers had to be self-reported, I guess I was just hoping that there'd be some linear relationship between the reported and actual work-hours...

Reporting your hours is a fun exercise of either outright lying or trying to prod your hazy memory.

 

[Haemulon]

So far my work hours have been about I as expected with hours ranging from a low of about 60 (not counting orientation) to a high of 110 hours in a week. Surgery mostly in the 90's. I think next semester will be on the lighter side with family, psych, and IM.