Rutgers PsyD or Adelphi PhD

[Slarterbartfast]

Which would you choose, and why?

I am interested in teaching at some point, so I have been told that the PhD will open more doors. I've also been told that more people look at the title at the end of your name (PhD or PsyD) than other factors. I've also been told that once you have your PhD, sites are more interested in the research work you have done, and are doing, than the original school you attended (except for a small minority of snobs who are not worth being concerned about).

This seems to give someone with a PhD many more options than someone with a PsyD. BTW, this information was from a researcher at one of the top research institutions in the country (a highly sought after APA internship site).

I'd love to hear other peolple's opinions concerning these issues in terms of deciding between Rutgers PsyD and Adelphi PhD.

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[berlin81]

Which would you choose, and why?

I am interested in teaching at some point, so I have been told that the PhD will open more doors. I've also been told that more people look at the title at the end of your name (PhD or PsyD) than other factors. I've also been told that once you have your PhD, sites are more interested in the research work you have done, and are doing, than the original school you attended (except for a small minority of snobs who are not worth being concerned about).

This seems to give someone with a PhD many more options than someone with a PsyD. BTW, this information was from a researcher at one of the top research institutions in the country (a highly sought after APA internship site).

I'd love to hear other peolple's opinions concerning these issues in terms of deciding between Rutgers PsyD and Adelphi PhD.

Both programs are really good for clinical psychology. Although Rutgers is a PsyD, their reputation is much better than most professional programs. Adelphi, from what I understand, has an emphasis in psychodynamic therapy which I think is very cool.

If you definitely want to go into research exclusively, then perhaps going to Adelphi would be your best best. However I would not short-change the Rutgers program in terms of their research opportunities. I would look into each program's research offerings and see if any match your interests.

 

[psypipe]

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[nononora]

It depends what teaching you are hoping to do. Both programs are more clinically-oriented and will prepare you well as a clinician. You can certainly teach/supervise as an adjunct with a degree from either school. If you're looking for tenure-track positions then I imagine the PhD will be your better bet, although you will have to be pro-active in seeking out additional research/publication opportunities at Adelphi. That's not to say that a PsyD will put you out of the running though - it will really be based on your research productivity regardless of which program you attend.

 

[aventurine]

When you say you're "interested in teaching at some point," do you mean you'd like to do a little adjunct teaching or supervision on the side, or you want to go into academia and research? Those are very different things. If the former, I think it doesn't matter. If the latter, I'd go for a PhD.

Both programs have good reputations, but I've heard it observed by some internship training directors that the caliber of students coming out of Adelphi lately is not as consistently high as it was in years past, FWIW.

 

[bcg1982]

I'm not sure if cost is a factor for you at all, but Rutgers will be much more economical than Adelphi and probably a friendlier environment. I got a Rutgers offer as well and had ruled out Adelphi (am still considering some other ph.ds in the area). Let me know what you decide - we might be colleagues!

 

[nancynyc]

How does CUNY's clinical PhD program compare to these two? Which would you all choose if deciding between the three? Any input would be greatly appreciated! 🙂

 

[Slarterbartfast]

How does CUNY's clinical PhD program compare to these two? Which would you all choose if deciding between the three? Any input would be greatly appreciated! 🙂

I didn't apply to CUNY because I wanted to avoid going into a city and dealing with accreditation issues, so I didn't look into the program...

 

[psychmama]

Congrats! As others have said, both are excellent programs. I'm a grad of the Rutgers PsyD program -- it's definitely possible to teach with this degree, but I'm assuming you're also clinically minded? Adelphi is more psychodynamic, while Rutgers is more balanced. If you have leanings that are less dynamic I think Rutgers would offer more opportunities to do different sorts of research. Also, Rutgers has a PhD program that shares some professors and many clinical opportunities with the PsyD program. The Rutgers connection means there are a lot of research options if that's what's you're looking for.

 

[leavingprov]

I am currently in the Rutgers Psy.D. program-- There are lots of opportunities to get involved with research as long as you make this a priority. Feel free to PM me as well if you have other questions.

 

[berlin81]

How does CUNY's clinical PhD program compare to these two? Which would you all choose if deciding between the three? Any input would be greatly appreciated! 🙂

CUNY's clinical program is apparently having a lot of programs from what I have heard. They are well known for being psychodynamic oriented but allegedly their orientation has cost them to be on probation from the APA. I applied there a couple years ago (got denied), but looking back I am thankful since I have come to learn that a decent doctoral program should at least teach the basics (CBT, assessment, biological foundations of behavior). The curriculum did not seem to offer those perspectives. Although I love psychodynamic therapy, ignoring the so-called trends of mental health treatment can effect your career.

So from what I have heard and read, CUNY definitely has (or had) a psychodynamic focus. But Adelphi and Rutgers will at least offer other perspectives. I recommend checking out the Rutgers PsyD website, recently there was a posted interview with Nancy McWilliams (who was the psychodynamic/psychoanalytic guru at Rutgers). Read into it what you will, but it does sound like her approaches to therapy were highly contested by her colleagues who are not psychodynamic/psychoanalytic fans. Does it mean that the Rutgers program will have less of an emphasis on such approaches, I doubt it. Just worth noting.

 

[gs10]

Since I'm sure many folks reading this thread would know about the NYC-area schools, how would you all rate Fairleigh Dickinson's PhD program in this mix (Adelphi, City, Rutgers PsyD)? I'd also be looking to be able to teach (as adjunct/supervisor or possibly tenure track in the future) and practice. Thanks for the helpful comments!

 

[psychmama]

FDU is less psychodynamic than Adelphi. It's a solid program, known to be strong in teaching assessment. Its match rate for internship is generally good, although perhaps not as consistently strong as Rutgers. It's a Phd program that's partially funded -- I believe they offer about 50% tuition remission, and there are opportunities for more funding if you're willing to take on additional teaching or TA'ing of undergrads.

 

[gs10]

Thanks, psychmama. I'd heard those things as well. What about reputation? I get the feeling that everyone knows about Adelphi and City (and their pros and cons) and the Rutgers PsyD (which gets universally great reviews, with the caveat about PsyD if that's a concern). But everyone I talk to who's not at FDU says, "I don't know much about their program." Any ideas why?

 

[psychmama]

I'll PM you.

 

[psychguy819]

So I find myself in the same situation that the original author of this post was in last year. Rutgers Psy.D. or Adelphi Ph.D.

From my understanding, Rutgers is a fairly research-focused program for a Psy.D. and Adelphi is a fairly clinical-focused program for a Ph.D. It seems to me that both are evenly-balanced clinical programs. My immediate professional goal is to be a clinician but I am also interested in pursuing an academic career down the road. I consider myself to be psychodynamic. Obviously, I will receive excellent psychodynamic training at Adelphi, and the same opportunity is available at Rutgers if I seek it out. I feel that I would enjoy the clinical training at Adelphi more, but Rutgers's training will better prepare me for the "real-world" of psychology. I do, however, have a better research match at Adelphi. Although I am interested in research during doctoral training, I know that I do not want to be a full-time researcher after graduation.

The cost is the biggest factor for me. Rutgers is fairly inexpensive and is able to offer substantial funding for the first year... but then students must apply for paid practicums after the first year for funding - funding past the 1st year is not guaranteed and seems to vary considerably between students. Adelphi has an expensive base tuition cost and can only guarantee $5,000 right now, but expects to be able to offer "substantially more" next week.

Is the PhD worth the extra cost when I'm more than likely going to be making a comparable salary with either degree if I pursue the clinician path? Which would you choose if you had to?

Thanks! 🙂

 

[yaspr]

I am currently in the Rutgers Psy.D. program-- There are lots of opportunities to get involved with research as long as you make this a priority. Feel free to PM me as well if you have other questions.

Right now i am looking for universities in NJ or NY to study a PhD in clinical psychology. I'm from Puerto Rico and i really don't know wich program is the best. I'm very interested in doing practice but i am interested in doing research too. I also want to choose a program that teaches various perspectives and doesn't stick with only one theory/perspective. I was considerating rutgers and cuny programs. Cuny says that it has a full tuition remission...

Can u help me? 😉